OT Adam Silver Warns Teams About Tanking, Says NBA Will Closely Monitor Their Play (1 Viewer)

[BigGameDamian]

 

[BigGameDamian]

I wouldn’t mind seeing a 4pt line but not for the whole game. You could add it in for the last two minutes of the second quarter before halftime and the last two minutes of the 4th quarter. Make the half court line the 4pt shot.

 

[BigGameDamian]

 

[Everything Beagle]

I wouldn’t mind seeing a 4pt line but not for the whole game. You could add it in for the last two minutes of the second quarter before halftime and the last two minutes of the 4th quarter. Make the half court line the 4pt shot.

I'm with Durant. That's carnival shit. If you do anything, move the three point line back to where the league average 3P made is 30%. Elimininate the corner three or widen the court. Make threes strategic again.

 

[Everything Beagle]

The thing about how much better the average player is now really hits home. If you put Donovan Clingan in a time machine tomorrow, he would have been a generational center 40 years ago. As it stands, he's not even the front page story on our barely-making-the-playoffs team.

 

[wizenheimer]

I'm with Durant. That's carnival shit. If you do anything, move the three point line back to where the league average 3P made is 30%. Elimininate the corner three or widen the court. Make threes strategic again.

widening the court in conjunction with extending the 3 point line might be logical. But of course owners would never go for it as that would eliminate hundreds of the most expensive tickets in every arena. That lost revenue plus the cost of the necessary remodels would never fly

personally, I think the NBA needs to reduce the perceived value of the three point shot. I don't like eliminating the corner three because that would have a bigger impact of front court positions and only make guards more important. One idea is to stop awarding 3 FT's on fouled 3 point shots. Make it 2 FT's, or even 3 to make 2. You'd have to beef up the flagrant foul rules to protect shooters from cheap shots though

it may just be standard season noise, but personally I think right now there are a bunch of "solutions" that are extreme fixes for minor problems or even problems that don't really exist.

 

[Everything Beagle]

widening the court in conjunction with extending the 3 point line might be logical. But of course owners would never go for it as that would eliminate hundreds of the most expensive tickets in every arena. That lost revenue plus the cost of the necessary remodels would never fly

personally, I think the NBA needs to reduce the perceived value of the three point shot. I don't like eliminating the corner three because that would have a bigger impact of front court positions and only make guards more important. One idea is to stop awarding 3 FT's on fouled 3 point shots. Make it 2 FT's, or even 3 to make 2. You'd have to beef up the flagrant foul rules to protect shooters from cheap shots though

it may just be standard season noise, but personally I think right now there are a bunch of "solutions" that are extreme fixes for minor problems or even problems that don't really exist.

If you like centers shooting threes but hate rip through collapse moves, 3 to make 2 is best. I am also fine with not widening the court and eliminating the baseline three entirely to move the three point line back.

But you are right in that the league is honestly entertaining right now, and I feel like teams are finding a fun balance. It does rely on the refs to call an entertaining fame which I’m sure the NBA likes, but I don’t terribly mind the game as is right now.

 

[RR7]

The only drawback I see to the 3 to make 2 FT change is it will all but guarantee every team will employ the foul up 3 at the end of games, especially knowing that the fear of fouling him in the act of shooting resulting in 3 FTs is taken away.

 

[wizenheimer]

The only drawback I see to the 3 to make 2 FT change is it will all but guarantee every team will employ the foul up 3 at the end of games, especially knowing that the fear of fouling him in the act of shooting resulting in 3 FTs is taken away.

good point....I hadn't considered that. 2 FT's + possession?

 

[BassPlaya]

Heck, I would like to travelling and palming the ball return to the game.

I'm not holding my breath.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

Works for me!

 

[BigGameDamian]

Heck, I would like to travelling and palming the ball return to the game.

I'm not holding my breath.

Also, bring back hand checking.

 

[BassPlaya]

Also, bring back hand checking.

Over the back?

 

[Domihatin]

Over the back?

No, reach around.

 

[BigGameDamian]

 

[Domihatin]

No draft is a really dumb idea. Like I said before, all you have to do is make the lottery truly random and standings/position in the league does not affect your odds; everyone has the same odds. You try to win during the season to get into the playoffs and make it about playing to win and playing for success as a team. It's a no-brainer. You simply take away the incentive to lose games.

 

[Everything Beagle]

Not a fan of this no-draft idea as a team owned by a complete cheapskate who can’t even build his own arena.

 

[BoBoBREWSKI]

Not a fan of this no-draft idea as a team owned by a complete cheapskate who can’t even build his own arena.

I hope this was a joke.
If not it's a ridiculously stupid post.

 

[Everything Beagle]

I hope this was a joke.
If not it's a ridiculously stupid post.

It was a joke yes. Tom isn’t a cheapskate.
He’s simply too poor.

 

[JfizzleBlazer]

No draft is a really dumb idea. Like I said before, all you have to do is make the lottery truly random and standings/position in the league does not affect your odds; everyone has the same odds. You try to win during the season to get into the playoffs and make it about playing to win and playing for success as a team. It's a no-brainer. You simply take away the incentive to lose games.

That simply makes no sense. A dominant team like OKC does not need the same odds as the Kings if you want your league to have any parity.

This is making an issue out of one that rarely exists. Either we keep the lottery how it is or you scrap the lottery and just have the order be like it is in the NFL where no lottery occurs and the worst teams get the worst picks in order of record.

 

[inconceivable]

It was a joke yes. Tom isn’t a cheapskate.
He’s simply too poor.

what does that make us?

 

[KingSpeed]

Works for me!

My plan is still better. Why do players care about winning draft points? They don’t want a draft pick to join the team and take their minutes. There has to be clear incentive for players to win. This ain’t it.

 

[BBert]

what does that make us?

A farm team

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Last year's NBA title was won by tanking.

I see no problem with it.

 

[inconceivable]

My plan is still better. Why do players care about winning draft points? They don’t want a draft pick to join the team and take their minutes. There has to be clear incentive for players to win. This ain’t it.

pls point me to your plan or write it here again, if you don't mind. I'm curious. The crazy thing is there are hundreds of sports leagues. one of them has got to have a suitable model the nba can emulate and modify to fit their needs.

 

[Quatro44]

Here is another take from ESPN on fixing tanking

Solution for the NBA to fix its tanking problem: Count wins

The NBA has a tanking problem, but there's a clear solution the league should consider: counting wins after the All-Star break. Let us explain.

www.espn.com

 

[Pinwheel1]

People are trying to make it too complicated. Just give everyone in the lottery the same chance to win it.
Possibly expand it to the worst 18, all getting the same chance.

Sure, teams will still tank, but it takes away the incentive to be one of the bottom few.

 

[inconceivable]

just base it on record. most wins get the top pick. tanking solved.

 

[Domihatin]

That simply makes no sense. A dominant team like OKC does not need the same odds as the Kings if you want your league to have any parity.

This is making an issue out of one that rarely exists. Either we keep the lottery how it is or you scrap the lottery and just have the order be like it is in the NFL where no lottery occurs and the worst teams get the worst picks in order of record.

Who cares if OKC has the same odds as SAC???? Either one can get lucky and land a top pick. Having a bad record no longer matters. That is the important thing. No more tanking. Who cares if a good team gets another good pick, it really doesn't matter. The point is is that it gives all teams equal odds. If a good team gets a good pick, there's just as much chance that a bad team will also get a good pick in the same year. It's not going to kill the league if a good team gets a good player. They get good players anyways in different ways.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

My plan is still better. Why do players care about winning draft points? They don’t want a draft pick to join the team and take their minutes. There has to be clear incentive for players to win. This ain’t it.

I don't think players  ever tank, so  they don't need to be iincentivized not to.