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what sort of stats did you expect out of leonard freeland and barton? maybe thats the issue, unrealistic expectations
 
If your not a PG or SG and don't have a good SL PG who knows how to pass then you SoL there.
SL is all about players being selfish to try and make an NBA team or showcase their skills so expecting big men to do amything without a PG who actually wants to pass the ball is fairly absurd because they simply will not have the ball in their hands offensively enough.
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It would probably behoove the team to sign a real point guard just for SL so he can run the offense and get people involved... hell.... where is Earl Watson?
 
We have a "real" PG on the roster, he just doesn't have a guaranteed contract with us so he's not getting as much burn.

Natebishop3 said:
It would probably behoove the team to sign a real point guard just for SL so he can run the offense and get people involved... hell.... where is Earl Watson?
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Rhal said:
If your not a PG or SG and don't have a good SL PG who knows how to pass then you SoL there.
SL is all about players being selfish to try and make an NBA team or showcase their skills so expecting big men to do amything without a PG who actually wants to pass the ball is fairly absurd because they simply will not have the ball in their hands offensively enough.
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Again, tell this to Plumli, Morri, Zelli, Drummond, Olynyk, etc.
 
Which plumlee?

The Indiana one is dominant on blocks

Leonard is dominant on spray tans
 
Mediocre Man said:
This is bull shit to me

Barton
Claver
Freeland
Leonard


All know the offense. It should not have been an issue
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Saying Will Barton "knows" the offense is like saying Jessica Simpson knows how to act because she's done it before.

Will Barton knows ONE kind of offense - play completely out of control and be sure to get a shot off every time you touch the ball. Nobody else is going to get touches when Barton is "running" the point.

BNM
 
Ok, everyone else is right. the 4 players that were here all last year in a more complex version of the same system they are running in SL, shouldn't have a fucking clue where to be or what to do.


I'd literally rather have brain surgery than argue about this
 
Mediocre Man said:
Ok, everyone else is right. the 4 players that were here all last year in a more complex version of the same system they are running in SL, shouldn't have a fucking clue where to be or what to do.


I'd literally rather have brain surgery than argue about this
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Why do you always have to take it so personally when someone disagrees with you?

There's a difference between knowing the offense and running the offense. Even if the 4 you mentioned know the offense forward and backward, it doesn't solve the problem being discussed here - getting our bigs (specifically Robinson) the ball in position to score. Just because he knows the offense, you can't expect Joel Freeland to bring the ball up the court and run the offense. He just doesn't have the right skill set - none of the 4 mentioned do. The only one of the 4 that they have TRIED to use to run the offense is Will Barton and he is not, and never will be, a PG. He's a one-dimensional, out of control, SG who looks for his own shot first (and second and third and always...).

Not everything has to be an argument. People can disagree, share and discuss opinions without all the anger and drama.

BNM
 
Boob-No-More said:
Why do you always have to take it so personally when someone disagrees with you?

There's a difference between knowing the offense and running the offense. Even if the 4 you mentioned know the offense forward and backward, it doesn't solve the problem being discussed here - getting our bigs (specifically Robinson) the ball in position to score. Just because he knows the offense, you can't expect Joel Freeland to bring the ball up the court and run the offense. He just doesn't have the right skill set - none of the 4 mentioned do. The only one of the 4 that they have TRIED to use to run the offense is Will Barton and he is not, and never will be, a PG. He's a one-dimensional, out of control, SG who looks for his own shot first (and second and third and always...).

Not everything has to be an argument. People can disagree, share and discuss opinions without all the anger and drama.

BNM
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WRONG!!!!!
 
Boob-No-More said:
Why do you always have to take it so personally when someone disagrees with you?

There's a difference between knowing the offense and running the offense. Even if the 4 you mentioned know the offense forward and backward, it doesn't solve the problem being discussed here - getting our bigs (specifically Robinson) the ball in position to score. Just because he knows the offense, you can't expect Joel Freeland to bring the ball up the court and run the offense. He just doesn't have the right skill set - none of the 4 mentioned do. The only one of the 4 that they have TRIED to use to run the offense is Will Barton and he is not, and never will be, a PG. He's a one-dimensional, out of control, SG who looks for his own shot first (and second and third and always...).

Not everything has to be an argument. People can disagree, share and discuss opinions without all the anger and drama.

BNM
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people disagree with me all the time. It's the asinine arguing that players that know the system cant' run it. Just not worth it
 
Mediocre Man said:
people disagree with me all the time. It's the asinine arguing that players that know the system cant' run it. Just not worth it
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How is that asinine? A center doesn't walk the ball up court and set up the offense. And BNM is actually right. Barton is the only one that semi-capable of bringing the ball up court. BUt we all know he is hardly the guy you want to set up your offense.
 
FREELAND SHOULD BE RUNNING STOTTS OFFENSE TO PERFECTION BY HIMSELF
 
magnifier661 said:
How is that asinine? A center doesn't walk the ball up court and set up the offense. And BNM is actually right. Barton is the only one that semi-capable of bringing the ball up court. BUt we all know he is hardly the guy you want to set up your offense.
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I have already agreed you are all right. No reason to continue really
 
Mediocre Man said:
people disagree with me all the time. It's the asinine arguing that players that know the system cant' run it. Just not worth it
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So, which of the four do you want running the offense? Barton has tried and failed miserably (not the right skill set or mindset). Claver has been injured. That leaves Freeland and Leonard, not exactly PGs.

You may not agree, but it's a legitimate argument that our bigs are suffering due to our lack of experience PG play on our summer league roster. Hardly seems asinine to me.

BNM
 
3RA1N1AC said:
FREELAND SHOULD BE RUNNING STOTTS OFFENSE TO PERFECTION BY HIMSELF
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And god forbid Leonard should start feeding the ball into Robinson in the low post. Even if he does it to perfection, everyone will crucify him because he's not feeding HIMSELF the ball in the low post.

BNM
 
but they all still suck ass, for a different reason though
 
Everyone in this thread is playing dumb, pretending they don't know that McCollum is the PG, and has proven he cannot play PG.
 
Up to 13.3 RPG after 4 summer league games.

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Wizard Mentor said:
I don't know how many 8 RPG backups there have even been.
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We had one I believe. Didn't mark Bryant give us 8 a game one season?

But it was a different game back then.

Edit: his highest was 4.6 as a blazer. Guess I was off by a lot! Lol
 
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magnifier661 said:
We had one I believe. Didn't mark Bryant give us 8 a game one season?

But it was a different game back then.
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I'm going to say no way, BEFORE I look it up. Bryant wasn't anything outstanding as a rebounder (or anything else).

BNM
 
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