Aldridge speaks out again about wanting a real center

[Mediocre Man]

Wait a minute. Someone above noted that there were a lot of qualifiers. To which YOU said, LOL no, it's simple. American born white centers. Although I am thinking of expanding it to North American born centers, and possibly even WWII allied born centers.

Do the centers that I listed meet the laughably simply qualifiers YOU posted, or not?

Go Blazers

If you don't feel the game has changed since the 70's then there is nothing to talk about.

 

[3RA1N1AC]

lol, mm is saying that white people arent as good at basketball as black people?

what a shocking statement, way to go out on a limb there old fella

 

[PtldPlatypus]

Only if we give them our 1st rounder (assume we have it)

People need to stop suggesting this.

As it stands, even if we are bad enough to have a 1st round pick this year we can't trade it.

The Steipen rule prevents teams from trading their pick if existing obligations even make it possible that they might not have a first rounder next year. If we keep our 2013 #1, then CHA has a potential claim on our 2014 #1, which means we can not trade our 2013 #1 unless we somehow acquire another #1 for 2013 or 2014.

 

[magnifier661]

lol, mm is saying that white people arent as good at basketball as black people?

what a shocking statement, way to go out on a limb there old fella

Larry Bird, the logo, McHale, Sabas, and many other superstars would disagree

 

[magnifier661]

People need to stop suggesting this.

As it stands, even if we are bad enough to have a 1st round pick this year we can't trade it.

The Steipen rule prevents teams from trading their pick if existing obligations even make it possible that they might not have a first rounder next year. If we keep our 2013 #1, then CHA has a potential claim on our 2014 #1, which means we can not trade our 2013 #1 unless we somehow acquire another #1 for 2013 or 2014.

Ahhh the catch. Thanks for clearing that up brother. I keep forgetting that shit.

 

[3RA1N1AC]

brook lopez is white/cuban, born in america

whats your qualifier mm? one drop of non caucasian blood?

 

[3RA1N1AC]

kosta koufos born in ohio, 7th among centers in WS

leonard is 17th, ahead of perkins, dalembert, etc

 

[oldguy]

If you don't feel the game has changed since the 70's then there is nothing to talk about.

Ok, so don't answer the question, then. I'll answer for you. The centers I listed all meet your qualifiers.

Go Blazers

 

[Mediocre Man]

brook lopez is white/cuban, born in america

whats your qualifier mm? one drop of non caucasian blood?

My theory is right, as wrong as it may be to say out loud. Lopez' father is 100% Cuban, so enough already

 

[Mediocre Man]

Ok, so don't answer the question, then. I'll answer for you. The centers I listed all meet your qualifiers.

Go Blazers

Except for Brook Lopez, yes, they do. You guys are right. Let's keep drafting them every year until we find #7 in the long line of very good American born white centers in the 52 years of the league

 

[3RA1N1AC]

My theory is right, as wrong as it may be to say out loud. Lopez' father is 100% Cuban, so enough already

no im asking, one drop?

 

[Mediocre Man]

no im asking, one drop?

I believe in the Bible, so we all came from two people in my view. It's a stupid argument that I will continue to have with you, but I am right. American born white centers are worthless.

 

[3RA1N1AC]

Except for Brook Lopez, yes, they do. You guys are right. Let's keep drafting them every year until we find #7 in the long line of very good American born white centers in the 52 years of the league

17th in WS as a rookie who has missed a bunch of games aint too bad, neither is 7th like koufos

or do they have to be the mvp?

 

[mook]

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/e/eatonma01.html

Mark Eaton.... Other than good at blocks; the dude was a dud! Hahaha

Two time defensive player of the year, one-time allstar, all-time NBA leader in blocks per game.

Dude was 7'4 and had a wingspan that seemed to blanket the court. Absolutely no talent on the offensive end, but just smothering on the other end.

He's the poster child for what every utterly talentless 7+ footer center could become if they work hard and know their role.

Does he belong in the conversation with Bill Walton? No. But if we're talking about Brad Miller, sure.

 

[Mediocre Man]

17th in WS as a rookie who has missed a bunch of games aint too bad, neither is 7th like koufos

or do they have to be the mvp?

Huh?

 

[3RA1N1AC]

I believe in the Bible, so we all came from two people in my view.

huh? so what, you dont see colors? interesting turn of events, didnt see that coming

so meyers is just a really pale middle eastern man i guess

 

[3RA1N1AC]

Huh?

really? what would make you change your mind? koufos is 7th in the nba among centers in WS...does he need to be first?

 

[3RA1N1AC]

Two time defensive player of the year, one-time allstar, all-time NBA leader in blocks per game.

Dude was 7'4 and had a wingspan that seemed to blanket the court. Absolutely no talent on the offensive end, but just smothering on the other end.

He's the poster child for what every utterly talentless 7+ footer center could become if they work hard and know their role.

Does he belong in the conversation with Bill Walton? No. But if we're talking about Brad Miller, sure.

i think white people need to be mvps to be good, not sure though

 

[Mediocre Man]

huh? so what, you dont see colors? interesting turn of events, didnt see that coming

so meyers is just a really pale middle eastern man i guess

Again, American born white centers are worthless. Have there been good one's? Absolutely, just as there have been bad black centers. But I think, and so does anyone who has watched the NBA game, that good American born white centers are easily the exception and not the rule. Please give me the name of the last one you would have drafted in the top 8 or so?

 

[Mediocre Man]

really? what would make you change your mind? koufos is 7th in the nba among centers in WS...does he need to be first?

No, I don't understand the Koufos thing at all

 

[3RA1N1AC]

worthless does not mean what you think it means apparently

good to know

cody zeller is projected as a top 3 pick next year, you think he is going to be worthless i assume?

 

[Mediocre Man]

worthless does not mean what you think it means apparently

good to know

cody zeller is projected as a top 3 pick next year, you think he is going to be worthless i assume?

I absolutely don't think he will be anywhere near as good as people think, but I also think he will be a PF

 

[3RA1N1AC]

No, I don't understand the Koufos thing at all

what part is escaping you?

he is 7th among centers in WS in the NBA, where does he need to be for you to think he isnt worthless?

 

[magnifier661]

There is another factor in this equation. First, most the U.S. born white guys are playing roles of playmakers or at most, PFs. You change the scenario to white U.S. born big men, and that list can be endless. Bird, McHale, Chambers, Love, Lee, etc. etc.

 

[Mediocre Man]

what part is escaping you?

he is 7th among centers in WS in the NBA, where does he need to be for you to think he isnt worthless?

He has been in the league for 6 years. he has career averages of 5/4. If that's what you want in a center then great. We differ on this as well

 

[Mediocre Man]

There is another factor in this equation. First, most the U.S. born white guys are playing roles of playmakers or at most, PFs. You change the scenario to white U.S. born big men, and that list can be endless. Bird, McHale, Chambers, Love, Lee, etc. etc.

True, however even now how many really good big men are there?

Love
Lee
I know I am missing some, but there aren't that many

 

[3RA1N1AC]

There is another factor in this equation. First, most the U.S. born white guys are playing roles of playmakers or at most, PFs. You change the scenario to white U.S. born big men, and that list can be endless. Bird, McHale, Chambers, Love, Lee, etc. etc.

no it works better when mm can decide who is a center or not

 

[Mediocre Man]

no it works better when mm can decide who is a center or not

It's not me that is deciding

Love and Lee are both listed as PF's by the NBA

 

[magnifier661]

It's not me that is deciding

Love and Lee are both listed as PF's by the NBA

Lee played Center in New York and the league has changed. How many true centers are even dominating the game right now?

 

[3RA1N1AC]

its the whole "worthless" thing that is laughable, clearly you are wrong