Aldridge wants to play in Chicago?

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magnifier661 said:
Dude you weren't watching the games then. A lot of our bench had to start because of injuries.
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Now you're being lame. Belinelli started more games than your entire bench combined, and your starters out scored ours by 25 a game.
 
Denny Crane said:
Now you're being lame. Belinelli started more games than your entire bench combined, and your starters out scored ours by 25 a game.
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Yep they sure did. That's our only offense. And because of that; they folded at the end of the season with injuries and fatigue.

You having a bench that can score can keep the team fresh for the entire season.

Your arguments are lame
 
The Bulls have three stellar assets. They are, in order of importance:
1. Tom Thibodeau
2. Joakim Noah
3. Derrick (Derek?) Rose

I list Noah over Rose because I happen to think he's more important to the team. He's a leader and an incredible defender. Rose is like a slightly poor-man's Dwyane Wade, which is damn good, too.

Of the rest, Deng is pretty important, but now overpaid, and the kid from Marquette is a much cheaper replacement. The Bulls are like the Spurs: they've got an awesome system and it makes role players look better than they really are. You thought Nate Robinson was the bees knees, and indeed, he looked great at times in the playoffs. So why aren't Chicago trying hard to re-sign him? Because they know they can find a bargain basement replacement. Just like San Antonio does.

Aldridge would be a major fourth asset and the difference between not getting to the EC finals and contending for a title. We know it, and they know it.
 
Rastapopoulos said:
The Bulls have three stellar assets. They are, in order of importance:
1. Tom Thibodeau
2. Joakim Noah
3. Derrick (Derek?) Rose

I list Noah over Rose because I happen to think he's more important to the team. He's a leader and an incredible defender. Rose is like a slightly poor-man's Dwyane Wade, which is damn good, too.

Of the rest, Deng is pretty important, but now overpaid, and the kid from Marquette is a much cheaper replacement. The Bulls are like the Spurs: they've got an awesome system and it makes role players look better than they really are. You thought Nate Robinson was the bees knees, and indeed, he looked great at times in the playoffs. So why aren't Chicago trying hard to re-sign him? Because they know they can find a bargain basement replacement. Just like San Antonio does.

Aldridge would be a major fourth asset and the difference between not getting to the EC finals and contending for a title. We know it, and they know it.
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Exactly. Having Noah, rose and Aldridge would be epic.
 
Here's a suggestion. It's not ideal (obviously I'd like to get Taj Gibson as well) and it assumes that we get the rights to Mirotic AND the Charlotte pick. Obviously the Bulls would prefer it if Boozer was the one going to Houston, (so this is a trade that both Chi and Por would prefer) but Houston's got to know they're likely to amnesty him anyway. But anyway, it acknowledges two facts:
1. Houston still needs to clear a bit of cap space to offer Howard the max, but
2. They're not going to just give Asik away for nothing.

Why would they give up Lin? Because Beverley is better, and his balloon payment comes due next year.
 
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Rastapopoulos said:
The Bulls have three stellar assets. They are, in order of importance:
1. Tom Thibodeau
2. Joakim Noah
3. Derrick (Derek?) Rose

I list Noah over Rose because I happen to think he's more important to the team. He's a leader and an incredible defender. Rose is like a slightly poor-man's Dwyane Wade, which is damn good, too.

Of the rest, Deng is pretty important, but now overpaid, and the kid from Marquette is a much cheaper replacement. The Bulls are like the Spurs: they've got an awesome system and it makes role players look better than they really are. You thought Nate Robinson was the bees knees, and indeed, he looked great at times in the playoffs. So why aren't Chicago trying hard to re-sign him? Because they know they can find a bargain basement replacement. Just like San Antonio does.

Aldridge would be a major fourth asset and the difference between not getting to the EC finals and contending for a title. We know it, and they know it.
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Give me Thibs, Noah, Gibson and Jimmy B.
 
Rastapopoulos said:
Here's a suggestion. It's not ideal (obviously I'd like to get Taj Gibson as well) and it assumes that we get the rights to Mirotic AND the Charlotte pick. Obviously the Bulls would prefer it if Boozer was the one going to Houston, (so this is a trade that both Chi and Por would prefer) but Houston's got to know they're likely to amnesty him anyway. But anyway, it acknowledges two facts:
1. Houston still needs to clear a bit of cap space to offer Howard the max, but
2. They're not going to just give Asik away for nothing.

Why would they give up Lin? Because Beverley is better, and his balloon payment comes due next year.
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Not an awful haul.

Mirotic + Charlottes pick + Asik + Terrence Jones, for those of you who cannot open it.
 
Rastapopoulos said:
Here's a suggestion. It's not ideal (obviously I'd like to get Taj Gibson as well) and it assumes that we get the rights to Mirotic AND the Charlotte pick. Obviously the Bulls would prefer it if Boozer was the one going to Houston, (so this is a trade that both Chi and Por would prefer) but Houston's got to know they're likely to amnesty him anyway. But anyway, it acknowledges two facts:
1. Houston still needs to clear a bit of cap space to offer Howard the max, but
2. They're not going to just give Asik away for nothing.

Why would they give up Lin? Because Beverley is better, and his balloon payment comes due next year.
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Houston can't trade for Boozer then amnesty him.
 
I'm warming up to an LMA/Brooke Lopez swap if Brooke's foot checks out okay. I think they'd be interested and PF's abound in FA while the C's available to POR suck.
 
Fez Hammersticks said:
Denny sounds so butthurt.

"they know how to win."

NEXT.
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You like Noah? He and most if the Bulls draft picks are from winning programs.

Let's see if LMA gets traded at all. Like I said, I don't want him as badly as you think I should. Who is butthurt?
 
Chicago press wagging the dog once again.

Now we can stop with this madness!
 
Why would Chicago trade Boozer? He's worth more to them as their amnesty player. Portland doesn't want that contract. Does anybody want that contract?
 
PapaG said:
Why would Chicago trade Boozer? He's worth more to them as their amnesty player.
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Tell that to the owner! If you amnesty a player all it means is that he's off the cap. But the team still has to pay all his remaining salary (provided he clears waivers, which they always do). Paul Allen is still paying Brandon Roy big $, and the Bulls' owner is not known as a spendthrift.

The more I think about this:
* Aldridge's denial doesn't mean squat (of course, neither does the rumor, but somebody had to put it out there)
* Getting the rights to Mirotic AND Charlotte's pick would be pretty damn good for the Blazers.

The question is, what else would have to happen for the Bulls to agree? I think (your comments about amnesty notwithstanding) that if the Blazers agreed to take Boozer, then the trade would happen. But the Blazers shouldn't do that except as an absolute last resort (Denny's belief that Boozer has value aside). Perhaps insist that they take Freeland as well if we do that?
So:
TRADE A: Aldridge + Freeland for Boozer + Charlotte's pick + rights to Mirotic

Of course, if that happened, people would be calling for Olshey's head, and perhaps rightly so, in part because most people don't know about Mirotic and don't care about picks.

Alternatively:

TRADE B:
Aldridge for Luol Deng + Mirotic rights + Charlotte pick

I like this enough to be okay with it. Chicago would probably baulk, though. Deng is undervalued now (he's an elite defender still) because he's an injury risk with a lot of miles on him, but he's valuable to the Bulls. Plus it leaves them short on the wings. With that in mind, perhaps:

TRADE C:
Aldridge + Matthews for Deng + Mirotic + pick + Rip Hamilton
Hamilton's contract is a millstone for them right now, so that might do it. They could start: Rose, Matthews, Butler, Aldridge, Noah. Pretty nice, and pretty elite defensively, not that they weren't already. Plus they can bring Gibson off the bench. And they'd still have Boozer in theory, although they could ditch him.

Hamilton is a nasty pill to swallow, though, so my final suggestion is:
TRADE D:
Aldridge + Matthews + FREELAND for Deng + Rip + GIBSON + pick + Mirotic.

But I doubt the Bulls go for that.

Then, if we REALLY wanted Asik still, even with Aldridge gone, I bet the Charlotte pick would land him.

If I had to rank the trades in terms of likeability for the teams, it would go:
Chicago: A, C
Blazers: D, B

But I have a feeling that the Bulls would refuse to give up BOTH Mirotic and the pick at this point, and the Blazers shouldn't accept anything less than both (especially as we should've drafted Mirotic instead of Nolan fucking Smith.)

Finally: I don't see anything happening any time soon.
 
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