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Labinot41 said:
I've been reading through Hornets Reddit, to get a feeling who they Draft, and it's not even close, Scoot is that dude. They gonna draft him, i would be shocked like every Hornets fan if they would not draft Scoot.
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It really doesn’t matter what the fans want. If the Hornets want to roll with Ball and they like Miller, they won’t take Scoot. Maybe they trade the pick.
 
No one really knows what happened with the exchange of gun to murderer. Only Brandon does. Maybe his friend said he wanted to do some plinking. But if if he said he wanted it with malace in his intent, Brandon will have to live with that decision.
Labinot41 said:
pretty much all Hornets fans are locked in on Scoot. I highly doubt they won't draft him. It's gonna be Miller for the Blazers, or maaybe Amen Thompson. Or maybe a trade but hopefully not. We'll see
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If Miller is sending up red flags after interviews, and Amen, quite frankly isn't good at shooting or Free throws, it's bad all around. First off, why would you draft either. Poor Free throw shooting is a no dog. I'm sick of hearing how good these guys, not named Wemby are athletically. That's a red flag for can't shoot. Wemby is smooth shooting the ball. Miller can shoot, but is his mind in the right place. I'm bummed because the potential trade of this pick loses value if Scoot is taken at 2. Sharpe is a freak athlete, but he can shoot from all platforms and is a very good free throw shooter. Understandable why Calipari said Sharpe might go # 1 in this draft.
 
There was speculation somewhere that Schmitz that worked with Givoni in the recent past could be the "source" as a misdirection so Miller falls to Portland. This seems unlikely to me if Portland really wants to trade the pick as I suspect Scoot will have more teams interested in a trade than Miller.

I will say that the Givoni feedback seems to contradict what Woj was saying:

Woj on NBA teams' feedback on #Alabama's Brandon Miller: "Not only did they not find anything that they would consider disqualifying to select Brandon Miller, they are finding a young man who they say is mature, focused, whose character and his habits are actually an asset."
 
tykendo said:
No one really knows what happened with the exchange of gun to murderer. Only Brandon does. Maybe his friend said he wanted to do some plinking. But if if he said he wanted it with malace in his intent, Brandon will have to live with that decision.

If Miller is sending up red flags after interviews, and Amen, quite frankly isn't good at shooting or Free throws, it's bad all around. First off, why would you draft either. Poor Free throw shooting is a no dog. I'm sick of hearing how good these guys, not named Wemby are athletically. That's a red flag for can't shoot. Wemby is smooth shooting the ball. Miller can shoot, but is his mind in the right place. I'm bummed because the potential trade of this pick loses value if Scoot is taken at 2. Sharpe is a freak athlete, but he can shoot from all platforms and is a very good free throw shooter. Understandable why Calipari said Sharpe might go # 1 in this draft.
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Lol Sharpe would go number 1 over Wemby in this draft? Yea right
 
tykendo said:
I don't trust any of these one & doners. Wemby was different because he's been a pro since the age of 15. If we can't draft Wemby . There are a lot of nice proven pro's who could make this team close to a contender with Dame still in his prime. There is plenty of time after Dame retires to rebuild around Sharpe, if he excels the way we think he will. And you know what. There stands to be a pretty good chance in 2030 , that a new dude will be on the horizon who's way better than anyone in this draft sans Wemby.
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If you don't trust any one & doners you must've hated the Sharpe 0 & done pick.
 
julius said:
I'm not entirely ready to hitch my hopes on Sharpe just yet, but he definitely is making me not so concerned about the future as I was pre 2022 draft.

As much as Damians contract is HUGE, I'm fine keeping him with the team as Sharpe grows up, and matures. Even maybe Simons (tho If they can switch Simons for someone a little taller..).

The flexibility the team loses be keeping Damian, isn't worse, to me, than the flux that the team would get by either getting a TON of meh contracts for him (rarely are there players of equal value traded in scenarios like him), or future picks that could or could not be good or bad, or busts.
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I'm ok with keeping Dame; I just don't want the Blazers to trade away that #3 pick or other future draft picks, unless the trades make us IMMEDIATELY a contender, which just seems very unlikely that those trades will be available.

If Dame asks out then fine trade him. But if he's down with helping a young team grow there could be a lot of value in it.
 
andalusian said:
There was speculation somewhere that Schmitz that worked with Givoni in the recent past could be the "source" as a misdirection so Miller falls to Portland. This seems unlikely to me if Portland really wants to trade the pick as I suspect Scoot will have more teams interested in a trade than Miller.

I will say that the Givoni feedback seems to contradict what Woj was saying:

Woj on NBA teams' feedback on #Alabama's Brandon Miller: "Not only did they not find anything that they would consider disqualifying to select Brandon Miller, they are finding a young man who they say is mature, focused, whose character and his habits are actually an asset."
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I agree I don't think we would do it in this situation for the reasons that you stated, but teams do try it every year so players slip.
 
WesleyMatthews said:
If you don't trust any one & doners you must've hated the Sharpe 0 & done pick.
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Fair. But after watching his workout video i was intrigued. Plus his shot is so smooth. But i also wasn't all in on OG either. I said he pouts too much for my liking. And is inconsistent. Wouldn't go all in to get him last year. He's not Siakam, or Bridges good. I'm not geeked looking at Scoot's game . That's why i said he reminded me of a Donovan Mitchell Lite best case. Because his shot doesn't look smooth at all. Mitchell's is smooth. Scoot does remind me of Billy Ray Bates. I loved watching him.
 
illmatic99 said:
my biggest issues with miller so far in my research:
- struggles finishing at the rim.
- 2pt shooting is very poor.
- handle is a bit shaky. he doesn't really create any separation in the half court.

because of these things, i think he profiles closer to jabari smith than a guy like tatum at the pro level.
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I've also thought of the Smith comparison as his best attribute seems being a pretty athletic big wing with a jumper. Unlike Jabari though, his J is released out in front of his face not on top of his head... which makes it easier for a defender to block/effect. Agreed on the handle though over time who knows? First blush is that he's probably a 2nd or 3rd option on offense with some defensive versatility.

STOMP
 
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Out of curiosity… Say Scoot goes 2 and Portland keeps the pick with Miller at 3. If HOU were to offer Jabari Smith, would you do it? Or would you roll the dice with Miller?
 
illmatic99 said:
my biggest issues with miller so far in my research:

- struggles finishing at the rim.
- 2pt shooting is very poor.
- handle is a bit shaky. he doesn't really create any separation in the half court.
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I am not so sure I am buying this. At least not to the point where he can't improve in all those areas. I have seen highlights of him doing all of it very well.
Granted those are highlights, but they still demonstrate that he has the ability to do it. Now he (like all of them) just needs to work hard to improve. The front offices that are best, identify which ones have the drive to be great. But what he did as a freshman in the SEC is impressive

 
Not mentioned very often is that Miller has shown good skills passing the ball.
The video points out that Miller shot more and more effectively on 2 point shots in high school.


 
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Pinwheel1 said:
I am not so sure I am buying this. At least not to the point where he can't improve in all those areas. I have seen highlights of him doing all of it very well.
Granted those are highlights, but they still demonstrate that he has the ability to do it. Now he (like all of them) just needs to work hard to improve. The front offices that are best, identify which ones have the drive to be great. But what he did as a freshman in the SEC is impressive

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This is an interesting discussion comparing Scoot Henderson and Brandon Miller. Rob Dauster on the left and Jeff Goodman on the right.

Goodman says," I don't give a shit about fit. If I'm the GM of Charlotte, I'm saying, who is the guy I think has a chance to be a top 5 player down the road."
Dauster: "Who would you take there?"
Goodman: " I haven't seen enough of Scoot. All I'll say is, he can't shoot. Brandon Miller shoots the shit out of it.... He's better than Jabari Smith. He's better at the same stage. Because he can put it on the floor."

Dauster says he's not convinced Miller has the perimeter game of Jayson Tatum.
Goodman says, "Jayson Tatum stood in the corner. First of all, Tatum didn't shoot it well at Duke at all. Like he shot like 35%. When he came into the NBA, they stuck him in the corner for the first half of his rookie year. He didn't put it on the floor at all. It takes time. Jayson Tatum put on a lot of weight up here (shoulders). His first couple of years when he went to the basket, he had no desire for any contact. He had a boy's body when he came out of Duke. Now he has a man's body."

Goodman also says, " I actually think Brandon Miller is a really good passer. I don't think you saw it that much in Alabama. But I saw it on the AAU circuit."

(Goodman was high on Shaedon Sharpe, using comparisons to other players such as Anthony Edwards, at the same age.)

 
blazerfan11 said:
This is an interesting discussion comparing Scoot Henderson and Brandon Miller. Rob Dauster on the left and Jeff Goodman on the right.

Goodman says," I don't give a shit about fit. If I'm the GM of Charlotte, I'm saying, who is the guy I think has a chance to be a top 5 player down the road."
Dauster: "Who would you take there?"
Goodman: " I haven't seen enough of Scoot. All I'll say is, he can't shoot. Brandon Miller shoots the shit out of it.... He's better than Jabari Smith. He's better at the same stage. Because he can put it on the floor."

Dauster says he's not convinced Miller has the perimeter game of Jayson Tatum.
Goodman says, "Jayson Tatum stood in the corner. First of all, Tatum didn't shoot it well at Duke at all. Like he shot like 35%. When he came into the NBA, they stuck him in the corner for the first half of his rookie year. He didn't put it on the floor at all. It takes time. Jayson Tatum put on a lot of weight up here (shoulders). His first couple of years when he went to the basket, he had no desire for any contact. He had a boy's body when he came out of Duke. Now he has a man's body."

Goodman also says, " I actually think Brandon Miller is a really good passer. I don't think you saw it that much in Alabama. But I saw it on the AAU circuit."

(Goodman was high on Shaedon Sharpe, using comparisons to other players such as Anthony Edwards, at the same age.)

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To me, Scoot reminds me of Billy Ray Bates. And that's not bad. It's in the way he moves. But he's not as good a shooter as Billy Ray. It's a pass. But Miller is very intriguing.
 
blazerfan11 said:
This is an interesting discussion comparing Scoot Henderson and Brandon Miller. Rob Dauster on the left and Jeff Goodman on the right.

Goodman says," I don't give a shit about fit. If I'm the GM of Charlotte, I'm saying, who is the guy I think has a chance to be a top 5 player down the road."
Dauster: "Who would you take there?"
Goodman: " I haven't seen enough of Scoot. All I'll say is, he can't shoot. Brandon Miller shoots the shit out of it.... He's better than Jabari Smith. He's better at the same stage. Because he can put it on the floor."

Dauster says he's not convinced Miller has the perimeter game of Jayson Tatum.
Goodman says, "Jayson Tatum stood in the corner. First of all, Tatum didn't shoot it well at Duke at all. Like he shot like 35%. When he came into the NBA, they stuck him in the corner for the first half of his rookie year. He didn't put it on the floor at all. It takes time. Jayson Tatum put on a lot of weight up here (shoulders). His first couple of years when he went to the basket, he had no desire for any contact. He had a boy's body when he came out of Duke. Now he has a man's body."

Goodman also says, " I actually think Brandon Miller is a really good passer. I don't think you saw it that much in Alabama. But I saw it on the AAU circuit."

(Goodman was high on Shaedon Sharpe, using comparisons to other players such as Anthony Edwards, at the same age.)

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Statistically, Miller compares favorably to Tatum in college
 
Give me Brandon Miller, all day. I think he is a no-brainer if available, even though I like several other prospects.
 
If he can actually create for himself like Paul George, great. If not he's more like Jabari Smith or Michael Porter Jr, no.
 
Pinwheel1 said:
I am not so sure I am buying this. At least not to the point where he can't improve in all those areas. I have seen highlights of him doing all of it very well.
Granted those are highlights, but they still demonstrate that he has the ability to do it. Now he (like all of them) just needs to work hard to improve. The front offices that are best, identify which ones have the drive to be great. But what he did as a freshman in the SEC is impressive

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not buying what?

my comments weren't based only highlight videos. Over the entire season, his rim FG in the half court was 39%, which is pathetic for a guy 6'9. Guys who struggle finishing at the basket at the college level and amass points by making contested twos and open threes don't really translate in the NBA. I got duped by Johnny Davis last year and Miller looks sorta like a taller Davis with more hype. Jabari was similar as well.

Of course he can improve, but also keep in mind he is at least a year older than most of his other freshmen peers, sometimes two years older than guys like Whitmore.
 
AmirIcon said:
Sounds like a starter but not a star. If I'm drafting at #3, I want a star.

Not Michael Porter Jr.
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that's actually not a bad comp for Miller. And MPJ is more efficient because he knows his limitations and doesn't force.
 
AmirIcon said:
If true, that's definitely not good enough for a #3 pick.
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still not fully there yet with my picks, but i'm souring on miller lately. need to do a deeper dive and see if he improved over the course of the season and how he played against better teams, etc. also want to see what shakes out of the predraft workouts if anything leaks.

leaning more toward the trade down or out route, tbh. let's see where i am the week of the draft.
 
illmatic99 said:
that's actually not a bad comp for Miller. And MPJ is more efficient because he knows his limitations and doesn't force.
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Another comparison I read was Trey Murphy III.
I don’t know if the comparison was supposed to be complimentary, but Murphy in his 2nd year and 22 years old was only the 3rd player in NBA history to shoot 60% on twos, 40% on threes, and 90 percent on free throws.
 
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