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Portland2014 said:
Would the Cavs trade Allen for Simons?

Lillard
Scoot
Sharpe
Grant
Allen

Would this lineup work?
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The more i watch miller and scoot, highlights and interviews, it went from miller (fit) to tie to scoot (superstar aura)

But this lineup us too short. Scoot would have to be 6th man. Ideally, Sharpe is SG and Grant is SF
 
inconceivable said:
The more i watch miller and scoot, highlights and interviews, it went from miller (fit) to tie to scoot (superstar aura)

But this lineup us too short. Scoot would have to be 6th man. Ideally, Sharpe is SG and Grant is SF
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As you allude to with Grant playing SF.......we can go big if we want to right now before we make any moves.

Dame, Sharpe, Grant, Watford, Nurk.

There is only one ball so most of the shots should go to Dame, Sharpe, and Grant.
The bench is Ant, Thybulle, Little, Eubanks and ? (Cam, Walker, Knox or MLE)

So if we did draft Scoot, yes Ant gets traded and yes Scoot comes off the bench for a couple of years. Dame needs to pace himself as he gets older. He will also have more injuries so I do not see a problem with Scoot getting minutes.

The next move of course is what to we get for Ant if we do draft Scoot.
 
Predator said:
Part of Miller's appeal is that he is a plug-and-play starter right now. Remember, he's also a year older, so that's why he tends to be more developed than most other prospects.

He's not even close to Jabari, who can't dribble nor pass off the dribble.
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Yeah, I don't get the Jabari comp at all. Jabari was super raw coming in. The only thing he has over Miller is height. Miller is pretty much ahead in all other aspects of basketball coming in.
 
SheedSoNasty said:
By that logic, we should just sign Dillon Brooks and Westbrook.

I’m more concerned that he plays the same position as our star player, puts up Poot shooting numbers and poor defensive ratings.
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The emotion/dog part was just a bonus, I didn’t think I needed to state the obvious that he’s a badass and would help the team with his physical gifts.

His shouting may not be elite but from day 1 I bet he’s the best on the team at taking it to the rim. Dude is gonna draw so many fouls.
 
LayneStaley said:
The emotion/dog part was just a bonus, I didn’t think I needed to state the obvious that he’s a badass and would help the team with his physical gifts.

His shouting may not be elite but from day 1 I bet he’s the best on the team at taking it to the rim. Dude is gonna draw so many fouls.
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It's why I prefer players who put pressure on the defense. Miller doesn't do that as much as Scoot and Amen. I'm into getting easy buckets. While skilled, Miller doesn't seem to get to the rim or the free throw line as much. His skills are easier to duplicate.

I want an offense that gets easy buckets and gets to the free throw line. Scoot and Amen can provide that.
 
AmirIcon said:
It's why I prefer players who put pressure on the defense. Miller doesn't do that as much as Scoot and Amen. I'm into getting easy buckets. While skilled, Miller doesn't seem to get to the rim or the free throw line as much. His skills are easier to duplicate.

I want an offense that gets easy buckets and gets to the free throw line. Scoot and Amen can provide that.
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If his skills are easy to duplicate then why do we hardly ever find that type of SF? True getting easy buckets is important but keep in mind that come playoff time, if you can't shoot teams will take away the drive. At the very least you better be a good free throw shooter. You have to have the ability to attack and shoot. Maybe Miller didn't need to attack the rim as much because he scored so easily from the outside. I mean when you lead the conference in scoring, why change what is working? and it did pretty much work until the last game.

One thing I hate about the college game is how often defenders give up their bodies to draw a charge. The refs seem to side with the defense more in college and when you only get 5 fouls you sit in the first half after 2. Maybe this is a factor as well, I am not sure but just because a one-and-done did not get to the rim, doesn't mean he can't.
 
AmirIcon said:
It's why I prefer players who put pressure on the defense. Miller doesn't do that as much as Scoot and Amen. I'm into getting easy buckets. While skilled, Miller doesn't seem to get to the rim or the free throw line as much. His skills are easier to duplicate.

I want an offense that gets easy buckets and gets to the free throw line. Scoot and Amen can provide that.
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Brandon Miller ft rate = 33%
Amen = 35%

Scoot's true FTrate I'm not sure.

To suggest Brandon Miller doesn't put pressure on the defense is ... interesting.

He arguably puts more pressure on the defense because they can't just let him bomb away from 3.

It's like Ja vs Steph. Ja's FTrate is nearly twice Steph's, but I don't think you'd find anyone who says Ja is harder to guard than Steph.

A 6'9 SF who can pass, dribble, and shoot is easy to duplicate?

I wonder why that's what every team wants if it's so easy to find?
 
I said it awhile ago that I thought we should take Scoop over Wemby. Which some people thought was crazy talk. I just don’t trust the gangly types.

But this is the perfect opportunity to get a young franchise guard with marketability while still reshaping the roster with youth.

Scoot has superstar written all over him. A stronger, better passing Morant. You build a team with length and shooting around him and we could flip the script quickly.

Lillard is amazing, great player, great ambassador. But I’ll ALWAYS be a Blazer fan first before any kind of player allegiance.

These are exciting and fun times for us as a franchise.
 
What’s the worst case scenario for Scoot? Dennis Smith Jr with better playmaking? Maybe Eric Bledsoe in terms of a decent guard with an athletic frame and physical style, good d but not a star?

what are the chances he becomes an athletic guard without a reliable jumper that causes offensive spacing issues for his team and doesn’t defend well enough to compensate for it? Does he really have an elite level layup package like prime Rose or kyrie? Because that’s what he needs if he’s not a deadeye from outside.
 
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Has it been announced when Scoot is visiting Charlotte?
 
Freshtown said:
What’s the worst case scenario for Scoot? Dennis Smith Jr with better playmaking? Maybe Eric Bledsoe in terms of a decent guard with an athletic frame and physical style, good d but not a star?

what are the chances he becomes an athletic guard without a reliable jumper that causes offensive spacing issues for his team and doesn’t defend well enough to compensate for it? Does he really have an elite level layup package like prime Rose or kyrie? Because that’s what he needs if he’s not a deadeye from outside.
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I think his floor is waaaaay above what DSJ turned out to be. I thought a few weeks ago that might be a comparison, but his feel for the game just seems light years beyond, and he's probably even a bit better athlete all-around.
 
What if we take him and he doesn't live up to the hype? We will be one of those tanking teams...oh wait.
 
Love Scoot. His combination of safety and upside may be tops in this draft. But there's still a large part of me that would like to see us take Amen and try a different team building strategy than the one we've watch play out the last decade
 
JDC said:
Love Scoot. His combination of safety and upside may be tops in this draft. But there's still a large part of me that would like to see us take Amen and try a different team building strategy than the one we've watch play out the last decade
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That’s how I ultimately feel. I know scoot is a great prospect that will have at least a good career in the nba. But amen just has that game that we haven’t seen in a long time. His fit particularly next to simons and Sharpe excite me. That trio would complement each other so we’ll much like the warriors core
 
Freshtown said:
What’s the worst case scenario for Scoot? Dennis Smith Jr with better playmaking? Maybe Eric Bledsoe in terms of a decent guard with an athletic frame and physical style, good d but not a star?

what are the chances he becomes an athletic guard without a reliable jumper that causes offensive spacing issues for his team and doesn’t defend well enough to compensate for it? Does he really have an elite level layup package like prime Rose or kyrie? Because that’s what he needs if he’s not a deadeye from outside.
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I don’t think you’ll find someone as opposed to drafting Scoot as me, but while he doesn’t have Kyrie-level finishing, he does have a crazy midrange game — which is part of what makes Morant actually lethal — Morant has a crazy floater so he’s not entirely reliant on getting to the rim. Scoot is the same.

I actually think he will be pretty good. He might even be a superstar. But he would be the first guard ever to win a championship with his attributes which is why I’m not interested.
 
Freshtown said:
What’s the worst case scenario for Scoot? Dennis Smith Jr with better playmaking? Maybe Eric Bledsoe in terms of a decent guard with an athletic frame and physical style, good d but not a star?

what are the chances he becomes an athletic guard without a reliable jumper that causes offensive spacing issues for his team and doesn’t defend well enough to compensate for it? Does he really have an elite level layup package like prime Rose or kyrie? Because that’s what he needs if he’s not a deadeye from outside.
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Here is an example of Scoot scoring around Wembanyama:


And here's another one where he takes a step-back 2-pointer, faking out Wembanyama and another defender:
 
blazerfan11 said:
Here is an example of Scoot scoring around Wembanyama:


And here's another one where he takes a step-back 2-pointer, faking out Wembanyama and another defender:
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I went from nah on draft lottery night to this is a no-brainer. On the top video I saw them get a defensive rebound, dribble with purpose down the court and pass it to a teammate for a layup. Not sure what that is called since I rarely see it watching the walk-it-down Blazers...
 
JDC said:
none of that is new. All of it was in the media availability video posted by the team
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The couple clips at the end were not part of the package that I saw released by the team.
 
Natebishop3 said:
I know a lot of people don't like Marang, but this is a good discussion about Scoot.

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I started to listen, but these guys, like a lot of us, are overthinking it. If Scoot's there and your scouts think he's better then Amen, you draft Scoot and you trade Ant. Scoot won't be playing 12 minutes a game like these guys suggest. He'll be playing upper-20s.
 
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PCmor7 said:
I started to listen, but these guys, like a lot of us, are overthinking it. If Scoot's there and your scouts think he's better then Amen, you draft Scoot and you trade Ant. Scoot won't be playing 12 minutes a game like this guys suggest. He'll be playing upper-20s.
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these are also the same guys who literally lied to their viewers about Dame being upset about the Shaedon pick.
 
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