Allen Crabbe signs offer sheet with Nets

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Should we match Brooklyn's offer sheet for Allen Crabbe?

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Cippy91 said:
Crabbe was gonna get paid either way, I just find it ridiculous he wants to be a starter and if not, he doesn't wanna be here. If I recall at the exit interview he made it sound like he wanted to be here. Sounds like an ego problem he developed over a season of good play. I don't know. If he doesn't wanna play here, honestly fuck that dude. Go play in Brooklyn then and don't make it anywhere on a shitty team
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All that stuff is coming from Quick and for some reason I don't buy it.
 
Scalma said:
All that stuff is coming from Quick and for some reason I don't buy it.
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Its just not his personality to be a malcontent. If anything, Crabbe will be determined to prove he is worthy of that kind of money by helping the Blazers win games so when the trade deadline comes around he is a major asset for us and someone teams would trade for to get for a playoff run.
 
Cippy91 said:
Crabbe was gonna get paid either way, I just find it ridiculous he wants to be a starter and if not, he doesn't wanna be here. If I recall at the exit interview he made it sound like he wanted to be here. Sounds like an ego problem he developed over a season of good play. I don't know. If he doesn't wanna play here, honestly fuck that dude. Go play in Brooklyn then and don't make it anywhere on a shitty team
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After listening to guys like LaMarcus Aldridge, Nic Batum, Greg Oden over the years, I buy very little of what players have to say anymore. More times than not they are going to state the politically correct or the thing the fans and organization want to hear most. Whether they mean it or not.

If I had to bet, I would put the money on the idea of Crabbe not wanting the Blazers to match.
 
Ripcity4life77 said:
Team is better but i am about to Checkmate this discussion -- Can you honestly say barring injuries this team is better then the Warriors ???

ANSWER - NO --

Next ......
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Checkmate? Please.
So if a move doesn't make us better than them, pass, and give up assets which could help us get there for nothing? That's stupid.
It's a lot of money. It's not my money. Match, and figure it all out. If someone wants him for 18, someone else likely will at the deadline if need be
 


She's very gracious. There are many fish in the sea, however. Pat C 4 three!
 
So help me. I know you can go over the cap to sign your own guys, but if they match Crabbe and are then already over tge cap, can they still resign Mo and the other guy?
 
Well there is a point when something stops being an asset and becomes a problem. Just saying...

Whatever Olshey does will be ok for me. Can't blame him if he matches, can't blame him if he doesn't. But, if he does match then goodbye Mo and Meyers. Out of the three I prefer Crabbe because his playing style is mostly needed for our system, but 75M is too much...
 
GDiama said:
Well there is a point when something stops being an asset and becomes a problem. Just saying...

Whatever Olshey does will be ok for me. Can't blame him if he matches, can't blame him if he doesn't. But, if he does match then goodbye Mo and Meyers. Out of the three I prefer Crabbe because his playing style is mostly needed for our system, but 75M is too much...
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Why would matching mean goodbye Moe and Meyers?
 
If not now then at the trade deadline or next summer. You can't keep all these contracts and give CJ a max. And if Crabbe or some of these guys has a bad year how do you trade him if he is in 4 year contracts? They have proven nothing so far and all of them are just back ups for our 1st unit. And are we so sure that Mo won't find 60M/4 years? In this market everything is possible.
 
FWIW,Russilo, Jay Williams and Anthony Davis, on Mike&Mike are mocking the contract Brooklyn gave Crabbe.
 
yuyuza1 said:
Can't let him walk for nothing. Gotta do what OKC did with Kanter. That contract was thought of as immovable last year, but we all were willing to take him on again this summer in a trade.
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Kanter is an elite offensive talent, Crabbe is not.
 
Mediocre Man said:
We have to match. Can't keep losing assets for free.
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Crabbe at nearly 20 million per year is not an asset. Once teams wake up from their drunken stupor and their salary cap has been spent to the max, they will regret filling it up with these bench players, and no one will take him on. Not unless he really elevates his game, but that's a big if.
 
Mediocre Man said:
So help me. I know you can go over the cap to sign your own guys, but if they match Crabbe and are then already over tge cap, can they still resign Mo and the other guy?
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Yes, we can match all our RFAs, regardless of how far over the cap* we go.

*There are certain types of "under the apron only" transactions that can prevent a team from exceeding a total team salary that is about $4m over the tax line, but we're not in danger of that, and we haven't completed any of those types of transactions anyway.
 
Ripcity4life77 said:
OMG -- PA is a Billionaire owner cause he does not just throw money around like it grows on a damn tree. This has to be the DUMBEST argument i have seen yet for keeping Crabbe. OK lets say they do match -- what if PA decides can now Payroll has gone up so much maybe time to raise ticket prices and other things is Crabbe now worth it ? BTW i think good chance prices go up for tickets and other stuff anyway but let's suggest PA go even deeper in debt then pass it on to the fans.
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The payroll went up specifically because the basketball-related-income has already gone up. If prices go up, it's because the market bears it, not because payroll increased.
 
Sinobas said:
Crabbe at nearly 20 million per year is not an asset. Once teams wake up from their drunken stupor and their salary cap has been spent to the max, they will regret filling it up with these bench players, and no one will take him on. Not unless he really elevates his game, but that's a big if.
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And we need to take into account that as long as he is a Blazer (and especially now that we signed Turner) he will not be a starter and most probably he won't average the mins he needs to show that he is a close to max player. Which means it will be extremely doubtful to move him with this salary. And this won't be an asset but a problem unless of course we become a contender and none cares if we pay Crabbe 20M. Unlikely.
 
could be the "hey, man, didn't we talk about this? If you get an offer, you're going to get paid. By someone. Just don't sign anything until you let the team know and let them start talking."
 
I'm calling it right now, If Crabbe is let go to play for the Nets he WILL be an All-Star for Brooklyn. Maybe not this year but he will be one.

If you are okay with giving an All-Star to the Nets then fine, let him go. I am not so you have to match it.
 
Crabbe will be an All-Star? That is what he would need to be to justify that contract. I just don't see it though. Certainly not for our team as best a 6th man. But even starting on the Nets I think he does well but All-Star? That is something I can't just leap too. Hope so for him but it would take a lot of growth in many non-shooting areas for that to happen.
 
PtldPlatypus said:
Yes, we can match all our RFAs, regardless of how far over the cap* we go.

*There are certain types of "under the apron only" transactions that can prevent a team from exceeding a total team salary that is about $4m over the tax line, but we're not in danger of that, and we haven't completed any of those types of transactions anyway.
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I know that. My question is let's say we match Crabbe and are at that point over the cap. At that point can we still sign our guys, or do we have to be under the cap to then go over the cap
 
Mediocre Man said:
I know that. My question is let's say we match Crabbe and are at that point over the cap. At that point can we still sign our guys, or do we have to be under the cap to then go over the cap
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As long as we retained the RFA cap holds while matching Crabbe, we can re-sign or match our RFA's, even if we're already over the cap. The only thing that would prevent us from being able to do so is if we had to renounce their cap holds, and matching Crabbe does not require that.
 
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