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You know what i find funny? People who want the government to help them with everything but wont allow them to dictate anything on abortion.
I also find funny those who claim for equality and civil liberties while completely dismissing the fact that pro abortioners want to kill babies.
Live matter. Except the unborn new ones. Lol.

is this how projection works?

asking for a friend...
 
HailBlazers said:
Wear a mask daily. My children and self are vaccinated. But challenge the narrative and "you're an ANTI VAXXER?!" No I'm a hater of Political Science.
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Straight up. Getting mine this weekend with my father. as a care taker i can.

but i still question the expediency of which it has been rolled out.
 
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Orion Bailey said:
You know what i find funny? People who want the government to help them with everything but wont allow them to dictate anything on abortion.
I also find funny those who claim for equality and civil liberties while completely dismissing the fact that pro abortioners want to kill babies.
Live matter. Except the unborn new ones. Lol.

is this how projection works?

asking for a friend...
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first off.....I don't believe you find it funny at all.....and defining what is a baby and what is a piece of mucus with a few cells is a stretch....it's not killing babies that people want...it's control over their own bodies to choose whether or not to bring a child into a world ...no woman is required to raise her rapists or inbred uncle's sperm donation because people think puppies are cute...there's way more to it than that....if you are pro life...fine....adopt an unwanted child....in my view there are many people who have no business bringing a child into the world....especially if that world is a crack house, etc.....
 
riverman said:
first off.....I don't believe you find it funny at all.....and defining what is a baby and what is a piece of mucus with a few cells is a stretch....it's not killing babies that people want...it's control over their own bodies to choose whether or not to bring a child into a world ...no woman is required to raise her rapists or inbred uncle's sperm donation because people think puppies are cute...there's way more to it than that....if you are pro life...fine....adopt an unwanted child....in my view there are many people who have no business bringing a child into the world....especially if that world is a crack house, etc.....
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you must have missed that last sentence. But i admit i missed the green font.
No. None of its funny really but i was mocking a projection that was made in the opposite direction.
But i find it curious you responded to my projection with pushback but. Ot the projection i mocked with this post. ;)
 
riverman said:
so you think I seriously want a Trump royal family and Marjorie Taylor Green political nation on our southern border eh? If that doesn't require a green font....wtf does?
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It was more the part about sending anti vaxxers to Texas and telling them to stay the fuck out of Oregon. I feel like we might have touched on a bit of honesty there. But you also seem to be a pretty nice fella so I really don’t know.
 
Not sure who these people are who think government should solve all their problems. But I know lots of people who claim to be for small government but want government to dictate every pregnancy, make it really hard to vote, restrict which consenting adults can marry and are positively obsessed with what restrooms people use.
 
EL PRESIDENTE said:
All things being equal, what is the preferred Vaccine?

J&J is seemingly less effective, but only one shot and quicker protection.

What about between Moderna and Pfizer.
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I prefer the Pfizer but the Moderna is virtually as good. The two shot Pfizer takes a total of six weeks be at peak protection while the Moderna takes a total of 8 weeks for it's two shots to arrive at peak protection.
I've heard that the single shot Johnson and Johnson will protect you from serious harm from the Covid-19 even going so far as keeping you out of the hospital should you get Covid-19 after your single Johnson and Johnson shot.
Here, this might help:
https://www.statnews.com/2021/02/02...eloped-by-pfizer-moderna-and-johnson-johnson/
 
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SlyPokerDog said:
I've heard that the Pfizer and Moderna are 1a & 1b in terms of effectiveness. The J&J not as good but still good.

But here's the deal, ALL THREE VACCINES REDUCE THE CHANCES OF ENDING UP IN THE ICU ON A VENTALATOR AND/OR DEATH TO ALMOST ZERO!

Also, this "argument" that the vaccine was developed in a year vs three years is a nothing burger. Look at the technology and resources available now in developing this vaccine compared to others. Completely different.

Look at something like architecture, The original World Trade Center took 5 years to draft the plans for. The new one took 1 year. This was because of CAD and engineering and safety being programed into CAD. According to the 3 year vaccine argument the 5 year WTC plans should be a safer building than the 1 year new WTC plans because they took longer to design.

The advancements in vaccine development for Covid will have huge benefits in other current illnesses and vaccines like the flu and for future pandemics that will happen.

@jonnyboy you getting the vaccine reduces the chance of you spreading covid to others. We actually have the chance to end the spread of covid worldwide. Also the vaccine will help to stop the variants and continuing mutations the vaccine is having.
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I've used two versions of CAD and neither had safety programmed into them. Safety came from a Civil engineer's calculations. Just for useless information all branches of engineering working on a building start with the Architect's CAD drawings from different what they call 'perspectives'. We then modify those drawings to meet our designs. I've seen final drawings from the Architect, Electrical engineering, Civil Engineering, Mechanical engineering and fire, life, safety engineering. I think the biggest designs I've seen my company design were the MAC center, the Crater Lake lodge and the OSU computer building. At another consulting engineering company I worked at I designed a U.S. Forestry building and a Boeing manufacturing building energy analysis in Gresham, Oregon. One of my lead engineers did the electrical design of the Portland VA hospital. We all started out with the architect's CAD work and modified it to fit each of our specialized needs.
 
SlyPokerDog said:
I've heard that the Pfizer and Moderna are 1a & 1b in terms of effectiveness. The J&J not as good but still good.

But here's the deal, ALL THREE VACCINES REDUCE THE CHANCES OF ENDING UP IN THE ICU ON A VENTALATOR AND/OR DEATH TO ALMOST ZERO!

Also, this "argument" that the vaccine was developed in a year vs three years is a nothing burger. Look at the technology and resources available now in developing this vaccine compared to others. Completely different.

Look at something like architecture, The original World Trade Center took 5 years to draft the plans for. The new one took 1 year. This was because of CAD and engineering and safety being programed into CAD. According to the 3 year vaccine argument the 5 year WTC plans should be a safer building than the 1 year new WTC plans because they took longer to design.

The advancements in vaccine development for Covid will have huge benefits in other current illnesses and vaccines like the flu and for future pandemics that will happen.

@jonnyboy you getting the vaccine reduces the chance of you spreading covid to others. We actually have the chance to end the spread of covid worldwide. Also the vaccine will help to stop the variants and continuing mutations the vaccine is having.
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All very true except for one very minor point which I am professionally acquainted with.
 
EL PRESIDENTE said:
But can you get a J&J booster with Moderna/Pfizer and vice versa? They both have different mechanisms I believe.
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You remind me of a little boy who lived next door to me, Chucky, who always had a Million questions. You would answer one question and there would be a follow up, rinse and repeat. In your case, unlike Chucky, I see a need for an answer. I'm not sure you're going to get it in here unless we get an answer from @illuminatic or whatever his exact moniker is.
 
Stevenson said:
My anti-vax Republican friend is convinced that all these shots are "experimental gene therapy." Truly uninformed people.
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It is definitely experimental. mRNA vaccines haven’t been used this widely before, especially with little to no relative trial period. Whether ones opinion of it is good or bad, they do alter the way your cells reproduce, that’s literally how they are supposed to work. That might be what your friend is calling “gene therapy” although I’m not familiar with that term.
 
Stevenson said:
I didn't say that. But to call it experimental is wrong. They figured a better way to create this vaccine that doesn't include injecting people with a dead virus. OK by me. Go condescend elsewhere.
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My apology for being condescending. Just tired of people being lumped into bullshit like illmatic's video above. The fact is these "vaccines" have not been anywhere close to as rigorously tested as traditional vaccines and are only approved under emergency authorization.
 
HailBlazers said:
My apology for being condescending. Just tired of people being lumped into bullshit like illmatic's video above. The fact is these "vaccines" have not been anywhere close to as rigorously tested as traditional vaccines and are only approved under emergency authorization.
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Its rich that he's complaining about being condescending when his post reeks of it.
 
HailBlazers said:
My apology for being condescending. Just tired of people being lumped into bullshit like illmatic's video above. The fact is these "vaccines" have not been anywhere close to as rigorously tested as traditional vaccines and are only approved under emergency authorization.
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Modern medicine has saved my life literally twice.....not once did I question the quality of the medicines used to cure me...both times they worked....first time was a flesh eating bacteria that took two weeks quarantine in a hospital and 72 injections....bullshit would be refusing the medicine out of unfounded fears and if I'd done that I'd be dead.....no sympathy for anti public health paranoia from my camp. I listen to the pandemic experts and trust them.
 
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