Arizona: U.S. Congresswomen, 12 others shot, at least 4 dead

[Fez Hammersticks]

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[OSUBlazerfan]

Btw this guy was very anti-god, he got pissed off when he was handed a bible when he started his military service

 

[bodyman5001]

Holy hell, I would think this shit was a Hollywood film after watching those videos. There is just so much mental illness in this country, watch hoarders. Totally different yet really quite the same if you realize that it is just a malfunctioning brain.

Wow.

Somewhat off topic, can Sarah Palin just go spend her money already and leave us alone?

 

[Fez Hammersticks]

 

[MARIS61]

Btw this guy was very anti-god, he got pissed off when he was handed a bible when he started his military service

That is not anti-god (one would have to believe in god to be anti-god), it is merely Pro-US Constitution and Pro-American.

The bible handout by US employees if it happened is both a felony and a treasonous attempt to overthrow the government.

The fact he doesn't believe in mythical beings and the fact that he seems to have a basic understanding of what the Constitution says and how our government has tried to reinterpret it and subvert it seem to rule out an insanity defense.

 

[BrianFromWA]

Jared Lee Loughner's favorite books: Mein Kampf, Animal Farm, Brave New World, the Communist Manifesto...

That's a Master's in Tea Party Theology, right there.

 

[BrianFromWA]

That is not anti-god (one would have to believe in god to be anti-god), it is merely Pro-US Constitution and Pro-American.

The bible handout by US employees if it happened is both a felony and a treasonous attempt to overthrow the government.

The fact he doesn't believe in mythical beings and the fact that he seems to have a basic understanding of what the Constitution says and how our government has tried to reinterpret it and subvert it seem to rule out an insanity defense.

For someone who has shown a propensity to have no knowledge of either what the Constitution says, what treason is defined as, or the workings of the military, that's rich.

Here's some more on him, from him:

In conclusion, reading the second United States Constitution, I can't trust the current government because of the ratifications: The government is implying mind control and brainwash on the people by controlling grammar. No! I won't pay debt with a currency that's not backed by gold and silver! No! I won't trust in God!"

Sounds remarkably lucid and sane to me. Perhaps his clarity of seeing thorough mystical being brainwash allowed him to see the government brainwash.

 

[BrianFromWA]

It's sad to me that when this happens the majority of you immediately jumped to Tea Party rhetoric and Sarah Palin as the blame for this. Then it comes out (if you trust his myspace page ) that he's a left-leaning man interested in men who wants to be a woman who works for CPS. I'm not sure he's one of the people who Sarah Palin is targeting or one who's looking at her "target" list. And then you don't acknowledge how biased and wrong you were.

You stay classy, Forum.

 

[BrianFromWA]

BTW, Huffington Post had this as his page:

Schools:I attended school: Thornydale elementary,Tortolita Middle School, Mountain View Highschool, Northwest Aztec Middle College, and Pima Community College.
Interests:My favorite interest was reading, and I studied grammar. Conscience dreams were a great study in college!
Movies*My idiom: I could coin the moment!*)
Musicass me the strings!
Books:I had favorite books: Animal Farm, Brave New World, The Wizard Of OZ, Aesop Fables, The Odyssey, Alice Adventures Into Wonderland, Fahrenheit 451, Peter Pan, To Kill A Mockingbird, We The Living, Phantom Toll Booth, One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest, Pulp,Through The Looking Glass, The Communist Manifesto, Siddhartha, The Old Man And The Sea, Gulliver's Travels, Mein Kampf, The Republic, and Meno.

Nothing about his interest in being a woman.

 

[The Sebastian Express]

It's sad to me that when this happens the majority of you immediately jumped to Tea Party rhetoric and Sarah Palin as the blame for this. Then it comes out (if you trust his myspace page ) that he's a left-leaning man interested in men who wants to be a woman who works for CPS. I'm not sure he's one of the people who Sarah Palin is targeting or one who's looking at her "target" list. And then you don't acknowledge how biased and wrong you were.

You stay classy, Forum.

I notice you skipped over the part where there was speculation the Mexican Cartel ordered her hit at first.

 

[BrianFromWA]

No, I didn't. I said:

the majority of you immediately jumped to Tea Party rhetoric and Sarah Palin as the blame for this

Are you implying that 51% of the posters thought it was the cartel or someone else?

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

This Sheriff is a fucking douchebag. Get off your high horse asswipe.

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

"Arizona has become the mecca. We've become the capitol of bigotry and hatred."
-Clarence Dupnik
classy.

 

[BLAZER PROPHET]

Re: U.S. Congresswomen Assassinated

LOL at Fox changing stories after their source confirmed her dead.
Oh man. That is pathetic.

Bad message to send before you have your facts straight. Lets all pray she will make it through.

I have to say, with this woman fighting for her life, you're desperate and pathetic attempt to try and turn it into a political rant against the right rather than focusing on facts makes me think you should be banned. Just like Maris making fun of a death of a conservative. Why is it lefties take such glee over these things?

This is an unspeakable travesty and for lefties it's all about making fun of anyone or anything they see as being conservative. How sad. How sad.

 

[BLAZER PROPHET]

Re: U.S. Congresswomen Assassinated

Isn't there a difference between the Olbermanns and Maddows who discourage healthy dialog and the Palins who discourage healthy dialog through messages wrought with violent undertones to an already violence-inclined base?

You know, this is one reason I don't watch those idiots on TV or listen to them on the radio (be they left or right) as it just incites people.

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

This Sheriff Clarence Dupnik did the same thing. He referenced those that make a living "inciting" people to blame. Pretty low class to do. Basically politicizing this incident.

 

[julius]

sounds like he had a mental break down or a severe undiagnosed/under medicated(whatever) mental illness.

 

[barfo]

"Arizona has become the mecca. We've become the capitol of bigotry and hatred."
-Clarence Dupnik
classy.

It's longtime champion Idaho vs. fast-rising challenger Arizona in the heavyweight title fight. Bigotry and Hatred belts are on the line.

barfo

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

So I guess this is the guy leading the investigation.

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First stop for Sheriff Dumbshit: Fox News headquarters? Seems like a recurring issue with some here on this board too.

 

[BrianFromWA]

I'd have to say ID maintains the belt in a split decision...while one could argue (and some have) how it's not "hatred" of the immigrants, it's an issue of breaking the law--neo-Nazis don't really have a leg to stand on.

 

[PapaG]

Originally Posted by Sug
Born in the US and former member of the US Military.

The military claims they have no record of this guy, let alone of him serving in Afghanistan. It appears that Linda Lopez smeared the military in her reckless comments on FoxNews today.

Where did you get your information?

 

[PapaG]

Originally Posted by MrJayremmie
LOL at Fox changing stories after their source confirmed her dead.
Oh man. That is pathetic.

Bad message to send before you have your facts straight. Lets all pray she will make it through.

NPR reported her death first. CNN followed, and then FoxNews finally commented on reports stating she was dead.

 

[PapaG]

Re: U.S. Congresswomen Assassinated

I have to say, with this woman fighting for her life, you're desperate and pathetic attempt to try and turn it into a political rant against the right rather than focusing on facts makes me think you should be banned. Just like Maris making fun of a death of a conservative. Why is it lefties take such glee over these things?

This is an unspeakable travesty and for lefties it's all about making fun of anyone or anything they see as being conservative. How sad. How sad.

MIXUM got suspended for much less than what we've seen from "Mr. Jayremmie" today. Of course, those with the desire to control others tend to be mods, and those with a desire to control and tell others what to do tend to be "liberals", IMO.

 

[PapaG]

It's longtime champion Idaho vs. fast-rising challenger Arizona in the heavyweight title fight. Bigotry and Hatred belts are on the line.

barfo

Right, because bigotry/racism has never been a problem in the South.

Way to "add" to the flames of this thread, "Producer" barfo. It's about what I expected of you.

 

[MARIS61]

Re: U.S. Congresswomen Assassinated

MIXUM got suspended for much less than what we've seen from "Mr. Jayremmie" today. Of course, those with the desire to control others tend to be mods, and those with a desire to control and tell others what to do tend to be "liberals", IMO.

Another one of your wacko far right conspiracies?

Really PapaG, there's nothing to fear but fear itself.

And Liberals.

 

[PapaG]

Re: U.S. Congresswomen Assassinated

Another one of your wacko far right conspiracies?

Really PapaG, there's nothing to fear but fear itself.

And Liberals.

Mr. PERS speaks from his cushy retirment home that those who work are funding.

Nice retirement, thief.

 

[Sug]

I agree with the cop, the hate gets people with mental illness to the point of doing stupid things. I also agree that it comes from both sides, and that it has gotten way out of control. In this case though I would say that a person like Palin that actually made a map with a target focused on the woman that actually got shot has some reflecting to do. It is totally inappropriate and irresponsible for someone with wide following to engage in targeting individuals in such a way. If I were the congresswoman I would bring a civil suit against Palin and anyone else that named her and suggested she be removed with a wink and a nod. I would make these cowards go into a court room and defend their actions in front of a jury of their peers. Explain to the world how creating a map with small targets and listing peoples names is in some way a good idea.

I am not saying that Palin actually wanted this woman dead, nor am I saying that the shooter did this for Palin. What I am saying is that when these types of things exist, it gives rise to more and more hate. In fuels the fire, that creates a breeding ground for people like the shooter today to take the next step.

This comes from a book about the Kennedy assassination, and it pretty much sums up what I am talking about:

"In that third year of the Kennedy Presidency a kind of fever lay over Dallas County. Mad things happened. Huge billboards screamed “Impeach Earl Warren.” Jewish stores were smeared with crude swastikas. Fanatical young matrons swayed in public to the chant, “Stevenson’s going to die–his heart will stop, stop, stop and he will burn, burn burn!” Radical Right polemics were distributed in public schools; Kennedy’s name was booed in classrooms; junior executives were required to attend radical seminars. Dallas had become the mecca for medicine-show evangelists of the National Indignation Convention, the Christian Crusaders, the Minutemen, the John Birch and Patrick Henry societies . . .

In Dallas a retired major general flew the American flag upside down in front of his house, and when, on Labor Day of 1963, the Stars and Stripes were hoisted right side up outside his own home by County Treasurer Warren G. Harding–named by Democratic parents for a Republican President in an era when all Texas children were taught to respect the Presidency, regardless of party–Harding was accosted by a physician’s son, who remarked bitterly, “That’s the Democrat flag. Why not just run up the hammer and sickle while you’re at it?" - William Manchester, Death of a President.

 

[MARIS61]

Re: U.S. Congresswomen Assassinated

Mr. PERS speaks from his cushy retirment home that those who work are funding.

Nice retirement, thief.

No PERS for me. CSRS, and SS, and not for at least another decade yet, and I earned every measly penny of it.

Who is it you think I'm stealing from?

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

Disgusting. Seeing on twitterz that Westboro Baptist Church plans to picket the funerals of those who were killed.

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

Re: U.S. Congresswomen Assassinated

saw their "press release". disgusting pieces of shit.