Around the NBA- December 2017

[Mediocre Man]

I'm not sure yet about the front end of the draft but it sure looks as if the back end was screwed up. Even if Swanigan turns out OK, that draft was one where a team needed to collect assets. There were so many guys in the second round worth taking a flyer on. If we had too many bigs already, then Leonard should have just been released. It bothers me that MM seems to be a better talent evaluator than Olshey.

I'm not, but thanks for the nod. I just know two things I'd never draft

 

[KeepOnRollin]

I'm not, but thanks for the nod. I just know two things I'd never draft

I know one of them (of course we all do) but are you saying the other applies to Swanigan (whatever that other one may be)?

 

[KeepOnRollin]

It's because of the System of the warriors and their great players, if he wouldn't play for the warriors, the stats looked different

Now this I partly agree with. Still worth giving him props when it happens. I wanted Bell but Swanigan was my 2nd pick (Kuzma was not even on my radar. That guy has made something of himself, props to him). Are you saying Swanigan would have done the same in that system? Maybe close but not the same.

 

[Labinot41]

Now this I partly agree with. Still worth giving him props when it happens. I wanted Bell but Swanigan was my 2nd pick (Kuzma was not even on my radar. That guy has made something of himself, props to him). Are you saying Swanigan would have done the same in that system? Maybe close but not the same.

I doubt because Swanigan is not athletics/quick enough to play for the Warriors. He doesn't fit in the System. He would be the perfekt guy for the Grizzlies with their Grid and Grind System, but not for the Warriors

 

[KeepOnRollin]

I doubt because Swanigan is not athletics/quick enough to play for the Warriors. He doesn't fit in the System. He would be the perfekt guy for the Grizzlies with their Grid and Grind System, but not for the Warriors

So you said it is solely because of the system. But they also have to have the right players to fit their system. Draft pick Kevon Looney didn't blow up for them.

 

[SIeepwalker]

In regards to the poll question - I voted 'other'.

I don't post on here too often, but I certainly try to visit this forum at least once a day. This site is awesome, and it's because of a ton of great posters. Everyone has a different take, and that's what makes it such a fun read.

The list of posters in the poll is good, but a ton were left off - @Boob-No-More, @HCP, @Mediocre Man, @PtldPlatypus, @Chris Craig, @BlazerCaravan, @Eastoff, @dviss1, @riverman, @julius, @theprunetang, @Sleepwalker, @Orion Bailey , and @jlprk just to name a few. You guys are good entertainment.

Say what you want about this guy but he knows his posters

 

[Mediocre Man]

I know one of them (of course we all do) but are you saying the other applies to Swanigan (whatever that other one may be)?

Nope. I would not have drafted Swanigan though. I am a big believer in guarding multiple positions. He is a bit slow footed to be that guy. Not saying he can't, or hasn't been valuable.

My other no-no is players from Syracuse

 

[KeepOnRollin]

Nope. I would not have drafted Swanigan though. I am a big believer in guarding multiple positions. He is a bit slow footed to be that guy. Not saying he can't, or hasn't been valuable.

My other no-no is players from Syracuse

I was just lumping them together. My bad. Now a WABC from Syracuse would be crazy!

 

[Mediocre Man]

I was just lumping them together. My bad. Now a WABC from Syracuse would be crazy!

 

[UKRAINEFAN]

I'm not, but thanks for the nod. I just know two things I'd never draft

Well I know that you said many times that you and others you talked to thought that Bell was a legitimate late first rounder and that Portland should draft him.

 

[calvin natt]

It's because of the System of the warriors and their great players, if he wouldn't play for the warriors, the stats looked different

This week I’ve read that about Draymond, Klay and Bell. At some point you just have to admit they are all really good players.

 

[SIeepwalker]

Clippers losing by 30 in Dallas makes me happy

 

[Mediocre Man]

Well I know that you said many times that you and others you talked to thought that Bell was a legitimate late first rounder and that Portland should draft him.

Ya, that was a no brainer

 

[dviss1]

There's a very good reason that you all don't get paid to do what I do.

 

[Sarni]

10. Trail Blazers Zach Collins (F/C) Gonzaga
11. Hornets Malik Monk (G) Kentucky
12. Pistons Luke Kennard (G) Duke
13. Jazz Donovan Mitchell (G) Louisville

Donovan Mitchell scored 42 points tonight.

We aren't the ones who missed out on him, we traded up purely to get Collins and wouldn't have traded up for anyone else. Kings missed the trick because by taking Mitchell at 10 they would have sorted their backcourt for the next decade. They traded down instead and got two players who have not impressed.

 

[theprunetang]

Tyson Chandler just here so he dont get fined.
https://www.thescore.com/s/2954044

Sorry, I can't figure out how to get the video to show. But, you can click the link.

Anybody still think getting Chandler is a good idea?

 

[BBert]

Tyson Chandler just here so he dont get fined.
https://www.thescore.com/s/2954044

Sorry, I can't figure out how to get the video to show. But, you can click the link.

Anybody still think getting Chandler is a good idea?

I never did

 

[bodyman5000 and 1]

There's a very good reason that you all don't get paid to do what I do.

Who's gonna pay me to suck up to basketball players?.....Oh wait, I was thinking of HCP

 

[BlazerDuckSeahawkFan94]

Embiid vs Drummond tonight

 

[Sarni]

Just seen that Jazz are good again. 12-11 and I think they have a good chance to still make playoffs. Rubio has been playing really well, I like how their roster now has no clear star but is more built around team effort.

Long term they could be better off getting their pick this year to get another young piece to play with Mitchell and Gobert but in Mitchell they basically already have a player who can fill the void that Hayward left long term. He can do everything - shoots well, defends, has great playmaking skills.

 

[handiman]

Just seen that Jazz are good again... in Mitchell they basically already have a player who can fill the void that Hayward left long term. He can do everything - shoots well, defends, has great playmaking skills.

Hayward will go down in '17-18 history as an anomaly: the free agent departure that made both teams better.

Sorta.

 

[Sarni]

Hayward will go down in '17-18 history as an anomaly: the free agent departure that made both teams better.

Sorta.

Well Jazz didn't get anything for him so it didn't make them better really. Mitchell and Rubio were already there when he ditched them.

I think they could have done sign and trade so that Jazz would get some value back but not sure how that would have worked cap wise. Celts were looking to offload Crowder and Bradley then but Jazz did not need either.

BTW I really like Ingles.

 

[Labinot41]

I just watch Bucks vs Kings. Kings are getting killed from the bucks defense. 3 turnovers in a row from the Kings and the bucks are 14:0 after 4 minutes. Joerger bench the complete starting 5 after 4 minutes the bucks are scary with Bledsoe now

 

[SIeepwalker]

Hey I just thought about that now for some reason but, do you guys in the US know Tony Parker had a rap career ?

 

[BlazerDuckSeahawkFan94]

Cavs at 11 straight wins, gonna be interesting to see then with Thomas and if Rose decides to come back.

 

[DUB]

BTW I really like Ingles.

Me too, but I'm extremely biased.

 

[KeepOnRollin]

Me too, but I'm extremely biased.

He is one of those players people call "glue guys". Every team needs one. Does the dirty work. All-around game is there. Not outstanding in any one area (outside of maybe 3%) but average or better in every area (which is rare).

 

[DUB]

He is one of those players people call "glue guys". Every team needs one. Does the dirty work. All-around game is there. Not outstanding in any one area (outside of may 3%) but average or better in every area (which is rare).

I agree, great "glue guy", always makes the right decision. The funny thing is, he used to be a poor 3pt shooter. He's improved his 3pt shooting through hard work, and determination.

 

[BrunoSOC]

Wolves won, Okc won. Bad news we lost yesterday. Twomorrow Utah faces Washington

 

[Chris Craig]

As much as I enjoy Warriors players getting ejected from games, this one is ridiculous. Shaun Livingston was obviously fouled and the ref missed it. Livingston goes to argue with the ref who walks towards livingston and creates contact by bumping heads with livingston. The ref then ejects livingston for contact with a ref. These refs need to be reeled. They aren't the show. They aren't tge main attraction. They need do their job. They shouldnt get to act that way or any way they want. Their needs to be reprecussions.