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KingSpeed said:
Crabbe averages .6 steals per game off bench in his career. Not bad at all.
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There is absolutely nothing at all impressive about that. Crabbe has averaged near starter minutes the last two years (26.0 MPG and 28.5 MPG). Shabazz Napier averaged 0.6 STL/G in 9.7 MPG.

Crabbe's career STL% of 1.3 is well below average.

Other than knocking down open 3-pointers, there is not one single thing Crabbe does at anywhere near average level. He is entirely 1-dimensional.

BNM
 
BonesJones said:
Aminu is absolute garbage. Extremely overrated defender who's no where close to being all-defensive level. Is a fucking trainwreck on the offensive end. Dude is a horrible player and doesn't belong in the NBA.

No team would give up more than a 2nd for him, and honestly, I'd take it.
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Holy shit you're way off base. We were way better in games he played than in games he didn't. His defense and rebounding were great and he was actually able to play some center when Davis was out and Leonard sucked. After a tough start to the year, he still shot pretty well and as I said, he was one of only two people who showed up in our last game. Absolutely garbage? Absolutely not.
 
Boob-No-More said:
There is absolutely nothing at all impressive about that. Crabbe has averaged near starter minutes the last two years (26.0 MPG and 28.5 MPG). Shabazz Napier averaged 0.6 STL/G in 9.7 MPG.

Crabbe's career STL% of 1.3 is well below average.

Other than knocking down open 3-pointers, there is not one single thing Crabbe does at anywhere near average level. He is entirely 1-dimensional.

BNM
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Ok
 
Also Aminu always steps his game in playoffs. He did it in Dallas and both years for us. You keep guys like that. And I think he still has upside.
 
KingSpeed said:
Calm down. The point was he got easy baskets off of turnovers.
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No, actually he didn't. As pointed out he was bottom 4 in STL% on one of the bottom 5 teams in the league in getting STLs. How does being one of the worst in the league == being good at something?

BNM
 
Sinobas said:
I'm including Crabbe. You subract those 3, and that's under 88 million. Add in Quarterman, Connoughton, and shedding someone like Ed Davis, that's 20 million in cap space buddy.
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If you get rid of all those guys. And then who do you get with that 20 mill that's better than what we had?
 
Pinwheel1 said:
I disagree. I think he would be a very effective on a good team surround by great players who needed a teammate who can spread the floor. He could start for the Cavs and be more effective than JR IMO.
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Korver is better than Crabbe and was 1/3 the cost.

BNM
 
Boob-No-More said:
No, actually he didn't. As pointed out he was bottom 4 in STL% on one of the bottom 5 teams in the league in getting STLs. How does being one of the worst in the league == being good at something?

BNM
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He didn't get us easy baskets off of turnovers? Um I saw him do it with my own eyes. Maybe he didn't do at a high rate but he did do it. It was def something he brought to the team.
 
KingSpeed said:
He didn't get us easy baskets off of turnovers? Um I saw him do it with my own eyes. Maybe he didn't do at a high rate but he did do it. It was def something he brought to the team.
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Sure, he did it a couple times, but if he's one of the worst in the league at it just about any other player you throw out there will do it more. If you don't do something at a high rate, or even an average rate, it's not a strength.

BNM
 
Boob-No-More said:
Sure, he did it a couple times, but if he's one of the worst in the league at it just about any other player you throw out there will do it more. If you don't do something at a high rate, or even an average rate, it's not a strength.

BNM
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It's def one of his skills that he brings to the table. Prob the best on our team at it. And I've heard all you have to say. You don't have to say it again.
 
Boob-No-More said:
Korver is better than Crabbe and was 1/3 the cost.

BNM
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Yeah Korver was impressive in the finals........but aside from his disappearing act if he was younger he would not be getting 1/3. And as much as you bag on Crabbe's D......Korver's is way worse.
 
Boob-No-More said:
So? Last I checked the Cavs were in win now mode. They will take proven talent on a cheap contract over youth and upside every time.

BNM
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Cavs have a totally different team than ours. We don't have LeBron and we don't play in East.
 
KingSpeed said:
It's def one of his skills that he brings to the table. Prob the best on our team at it. And I've heard all you have to say. You don't have to say it again.
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And just because you say something over and over does not make it true. Look up the stats for yourself if you don't believe me. The data is there for anyone who wants to learn the game.

BNM
 
Pinwheel1 said:
Yeah Korver was impressive in the finals........but aside from his disappearing act if he was younger he would not be getting 1/3. And as much as you bag on Crabbe's D......Korver's is way worse.
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No, it's not. Crabbe was the worst defender on a bad defensive team, But, whatever...

BNM
 
Boob-No-More said:
And just because you say something over and over does not make it true. Look up the stats for yourself if you don't believe me. The data is there for anyone who wants to learn the game.

BNM
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Crabbe's steal and score was something he brought to the team last year. No one else did it as much as he did. Is he Chris Paul or Tony Allen, no. But it is something he brought to the table. Or did he not get 54 steals last season? Look it up for yourself.
 
KingSpeed said:
Holy shit you're way off base. We were way better in games he played than in games he didn't. His defense and rebounding were great and he was actually able to play some center when Davis was out and Leonard sucked. After a tough start to the year, he still shot pretty well and as I said, he was one of only two people who showed up in our last game. Absolutely garbage? Absolutely not.
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I'm off-base? You're the one tossing out claims that aren't true

Record before Nurkic: 23-32
Before Nurkic w/ Aminu: 16-21
Before Nurkic w/o Aminu: 7-11

The difference is negligible. "His defense is great"... No, his defense is shit. On a team with a bunch of bad perimeter defenders, his defense looks better than it is. Its overrated.

One game makes him not trash???
 
Schilly said:
Crabbe floats, he needs to shoot the damn ball without conscience. Instead he's far too passive and can't create for himself at all. Little heart.
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I don't think he lacks heart. He lacks the ability to either create his own shoot or shoot (at a high percentage) with a hand in his face. That severely limits how many shots he can take. Most players, when they're tentative, are tentative about doing something they're not comfortable doing.
 
BonesJones said:
I'm off-base? You're the one tossing out claims that aren't true

Record before Nurkic: 23-32
Before Nurkic w/ Aminu: 16-21
Before Nurkic w/o Aminu: 7-11

The difference is negligible. "His defense is great"... No, his defense is shit. On a team with a bunch of bad perimeter defenders, his defense looks better than it is. Its overrated.

One game makes him not trash???
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I'm glad you're not our GM.
 
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