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Boob-No-More said:
After trading Quarteman and renouncing Ezeli, we're at about $134.6 million - not counting our rookie cap holds. If we also renounce Connaughton, we'd be just a hair under $133 million. plus roughly $4.5 million in cap holds for our two first round picks. That's right around $137.5 million.

Based on the latest salary cap projection of $99 million, the luxury tax threshold is $119 million and the apron is $123 million. We're basically $18.5 million over the tax threshold, or $14.5 million over the apron. We need to shed either Crabbe or Turner or a combination of two contracts without taking back much, or any salary in return just to get under the apron.

Crabbe for a future draft pick (i.e. no incoming salary) is the only single contract that gets us under the luxury tax threshold. That assumes we also cut loose Patty C and the team we are trading with is at least $21.275 million under the cap due to Cabbe's trade kicker.

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No one IMO is giving us a pick and caps
riverman said:
This is just not true....by a long stretch...you don't like his game, fine...but he's a great defensive player whether you recognize it or not...for all your draft knowledge BJ....you are out to lunch on your Aminu bashing...he's not an overrated defender at all...
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when you see the ridiculous amount guys are gettin paid again this year, Aminu with 2 yrs left at about 7 mil per is a friggin steal. He can guard several positions and plays really good D, can make some 3's, a solid role player and a "plus" contract
 
riverman said:
This is just not true....by a long stretch...you don't like his game, fine...but he's a great defensive player whether you recognize it or not...for all your draft knowledge BJ....you are out to lunch on your Aminu bashing...he's not an overrated defender at all...
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Terry Stotts has said Aminu is his best defender, and from the way he says it I get the impression he doesn't think it's close. Considering that, plus his all-out style and great contract, he's not a guy I would want to trade for garbage.
 
Mediocre Man said:
NO impression?
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I think the impression is, why would you expect the Blazers to be players the first day of FA signing when they have zero cap space? If Olshey makes a move, it's going to be a trade and that's not likely to happen until after this run of FA deals. But, by all means, the doom and gloom crowd should feel free to freak the hell out if it makes them feel better.
 
e_blazer said:
I think the impression is, why would you expect the Blazers to be players the first day of FA signing when they have zero cap space? If Olshey makes a move, it's going to be a trade and that's not likely to happen until after this run of FA deals. But, by all means, the doom and gloom crowd should feel free to freak the hell out if it makes them feel better.
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Pretty sure MM asked if I was doing a Neil Olshey impression
 
UKRAINEFAN said:
Terry Stotts has said Aminu is his best defender, and from the way he says it I get the impression he doesn't think it's close. Considering that, plus his all-out style and great contract, he's not a guy I would want to trade for garbage.
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I believe what Stotts says. I also believe this team was so bad defensively last season that being the best defender on this squad was like being the fastest runner when everyone else is on crutches. Wasn't it Aminu who gave up a lay in at the buzzer when the other team only had a couple of seconds to run a play? He completely over committed and the player he was guarding just made a simple drop-step with no time to mess around and got a game winning lay up right at the rim while Aminu was left outside of the lane.

Yes, just a single example but those are clutch moments one is graded on.
 
e_blazer said:
But, by all means, the doom and gloom crowd should feel free to freak the hell out if it makes them feel better.
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I wouldn't exactly consider myself part of the doom and gloom crowd (yet), its just sooooooo tiring being optimistic year after year. I get it, its tough in FA being in Portland. I just want to win! I trust Olshey tho, he is a hell of a gm. Here's to next year.
 
I think Neil waits to see how the record plays out for about the first half of season before he decides to package next year's 1st round pick to dump a bad deal. If we are fighting for the 8 seed or worse, I bet they hold on to it.
 
TBpup said:
Wasn't it Aminu who gave up a lay in at the buzzer when the other team only had a couple of seconds to run a play?
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It was also Aminu who grabbed rebounds at the end of close games we won...he has won us a lot more games than he lost us with his hustle alone....people complain about the Blazers defense and we finally sign a guy who makes it a priority and nobody likes him......I like him...I like Turner for the same reason..
 
I like Aminu and he is decent defender and yes he does have mental lapse in games. But the guy gives it 100 percent all the time on the floor.
 
Trackjack said:
I like Aminu and he is decent defender and yes he does have mental lapse in games. But the guy gives it 100 percent all the time on the floor.
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Yep, i love Chief! Plays with so much passion. Yes I cringe when he cocks back from deep but him and Nurk can really help us raise the intensity on defense.
 
With the way some of these ridiculous deals are going around, I won't be surprised when some team that was left out in the cold does take one of our players in a salary dump.

It'll be some time for the dust to settle for a move to happen, as FA's need to sign and teams have to see that they were unable to use their cap space, but I can actually see the salary dump happening more than I could leading up to the draft. I didn't believe we'd be able to do it. But after the first 12 hours of free agency, I see it. If Portland wants to shed some salary....
 
craigehlo said:
I think Neil waits to see how the record plays out for about the first half of season before he decides to package next year's 1st round pick to dump a bad deal. If we are fighting for the 8 seed or worse, I bet they hold on to it.
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This was literally the plan going into last season and we're still here.
 
BlazerDuckSeahawkFan94 said:
Until he can prove he can stay healthy, we should temper our expectations. We've been hurt so much that I don't want to get my hopes up.
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This is the opposite of what we should be doing. Feel the joy and visualize him healthy and having a great season. Literally, sit back, close your eyes and visualize his highlights. Then feel great about them. The power of positive energy is a MF! It's the least we can do as fans.
 
Aminu was a real asset in 2015-16, when he was hitting swish3s at a decent rate. That, combined with his defensive versatility, unlocked more lineups for the Blazers. Now that he's gone back to bricking from deep, he's not much of an asset. He's a defensive specialist who isn't a great defender (he's an average defender who's versatile).
 
Minstrel said:
Now that he's gone back to bricking from deep
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He was hurt...compared to a healthy season I think it needs to be put in perspective...we fell off a cliff when he couldn't play last season and when he did he was not close to healthy..he talked about it in his exit interview
 
Minstrel said:
Aminu was a real asset in 2015-16, when he was hitting swish3s at a decent rate. That, combined with this defensive versatility, unlocked more lineups for the Blazers. Now that he's gone back to bricking from deep, he's not much of an asset. He's a defensive specialist who isn't a great defender (he's an average defender who's versatile).
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Yep. The form he was in in 2016, his value was probably somewhere around where Jae Crowder is today or even higher. I'd give up pieces for Crowder.
 
Minstrel said:
Aminu was a real asset in 2015-16, when he was hitting swish3s at a decent rate. That, combined with this defensive versatility, unlocked more lineups for the Blazers. Now that he's gone back to bricking from deep, he's not much of an asset. He's a defensive specialist who isn't a great defender (he's an average defender who's versatile).
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Aminu actually shot well from deep from february until the end of the playoffs. My issue with him is his upcoming free agency. Are we going to re-sign him? He's no longer a starter and has a great contract. I'd take advantage of that and trade him. Also disagree about him being an "average" defender.
 
So, locking Holiday down to a $25M contract is mental and thinking he can be the third piece to Cousins and Davis is also a bit nuts but realistically, they are probably going to lose Cousins at the end of season and were not going to get anyone better than Jrie anyway, so they did what they felt they had to do. Question is - was anybody really going to offer him even $20M a season so New Orleans had to move quickly?

For all these crazy deals you got to ask yourself - was someone else really going to pay that, so that you had no choice?
 
Sarni said:
So, locking Holiday down to a $25M contract is mental and thinking he can be the third piece to Cousins and Davis is also a bit nuts but realistically, they are probably going to lose Cousins at the end of season and were not going to get anyone better than Jrie anyway, so they did what they felt they had to do. Question is - was anybody really going to offer him even $20M a season so New Orleans had to move quickly?

For all these crazy deals you got to ask yourself - was someone else really going to pay that, so that you had no choice?
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#marketvalue
#marketofoneatthatvalue
 
Scalma said:
Aminu actually shot well from deep from february until the end of the playoffs. My issue with him is his upcoming free agency. Are we going to re-sign him? He's no longer a starter and has a great contract. I'd take advantage of that and trade him. Also disagree about him being an "average" defender.
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He won't need to be a starter...the guy is a great bench rotation player when you need to hold a lead
 
Minstrel said:
I disagree. In his prime, he was a great starter just like Draymond Green is a great starter. His defense and passing were always underrated in his prime because he wasn't a great isolation scorer--the only thing people cared about in non-point-guard stars back then.
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Perhaps I should have been more specific - he was never a great starter as the centerpiece of a team. He would have been a great starter as a 3rd option, and possibly even as a 2nd option.
 
handiman said:
I can't help but think it's Quick, the king of grudges, making shit up to try and get Pritchard fired. Has anyone more credible reported it?
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Thing is it's not just the blazers that evidently made a better offer than what the pacers eventually took.
 
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