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Let's see... 4 rings, 15 time All-Star, 8 time first team All-NBA, MVP, 3 time Finals MVP, 3 time All-Star Game MVP, over 28,000 career point, overs 13,000 career rebounds, over 2700 career blocks, a career PER = 26.4* over a 19-year NBA career and a guaranteed 1st ballot Hall of Famer. Yeah, who in their right mind would want to follow THAT career arc?

* Howard's BEST season PER = 26.0. In his prime, Shaq topped PER = 30 three years in a row, led the league for five straight years and had a 10-year stretch where his PER was never below 26.4
BNM

I don't know if there will ever be another shaq. One of a kind. Hated him, but would have loved him if he played for the blazers.

 

[Boob-No-More]

I don't know if there will ever be another shaq. One of a kind. Hated him, but would have loved him if he played for the blazers.

He was a great player, but a poor man's Wilt. Wilt will always be the standard for a dominant big man.

BNM

 

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He was a great player, but a poor man's Wilt. Wilt will always be the standard for a dominant big man.

BNM

True, hey I wouldn't mind either one of them. Lol

 

[Boob-No-More]

True, hey I wouldn't mind either one of them. Lol

Yeah, when it comes to durability and foul trouble, Wilt was the anti-Oden. The guy averaged 45.8 MPG over his entire 14-year NBA career and never fouled out of a single game.

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Yeah, when it comes to durability and foul trouble, Wilt was the anti-Oden. The guy averaged 45.8 MPG over his entire 14-year NBA career and never fouled out of a single game.

BNM

Read Bill Simmons book and I think you will have a different opinion of Wilt. He never fouled out of a game because he did not play defense once he got close to fouling out. Silly records like this were more important than winning to him.

 

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I hope this attempt to land Howard blows up in their face. Meaning nj and Orlando agree and lakers lose odom for nothing. Be over cap next season, with no hopes in landing a quality player.

 

[Boob-No-More]

Read Bill Simmons book and I think you will have a different opinion of Wilt. He never fouled out of a game because he did not play defense once he got close to fouling out. Silly records like this were more important than winning to him.

He averaged 2.0 PFG while playing 45.8 MPG for his career. He was rarely in foul trouble. And, he did play defense (and offense) very aggressively. I wish they would have kept blocked shots back when Wilt played. He was the only one I ever saw block Kareem's Sky Hook - twice in one series. And, that was when Wilt was near the end of his career.

BNM

 

[huevonkiller]

Dude we don't care. A lot of players played over 40 MPG in that era, it was a different era and diluted.

And it had less Black people, I love the modern NBA.

 

[Draco]

I hope this attempt to land Howard blows up in their face. Meaning nj and Orlando agree and lakers lose odom for nothing. Be over cap next season, with no hopes in landing a quality player.

Losing Odom is going to really hurt them if it isn't part of getting a star.

Agree though, until Dwight trade is finalized I just fearfully assume its inevitably all going to come together for the Lakers at the last minute and they will be able to form a better then Miami Heat superteam.

 

[Draco]

Dude we don't care. A lot of players played over 40 MPG in that era, it was a different era and diluted.

And it had less Black people, I love the modern NBA.

The next time I have to hear about how so and so averaged over 20 rebounds for a season...

Kobe's 81 point game is 10x more impressive then Wilt scoring 100. I bet Shaq would score 200 if they dumped it down low to him all game and he went against 6'7" scrubs as the other teams big men. It's like comparing arena football stats to the NFL.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

Kobe's 81 point game is 10x more impressive then Wilt scoring 100.

I think Wilt would've scored 200 against the Raptors' "defense".

What it takes to score a shitload of points is total solipsism and a coach who's willing/weak enough to let you take more shots than all your teammates combined. Remember when David Robinson needed to score a bunch to win scoring leader? He scored OVER 70 against the Clippers. (This was one case where it was the TEAMMATES feeding him the ball. Robinson, being a decent person, was almost embarrassed. But he wasn't the greatest scorer - he was fast but didn't have any real go-to post move - and yet he put up almost as much as the mighty Kobe. Just because his team decided he should.)

 

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David West to the Pacers. 2yr 20M. Woo Hoo!

 

[Rastapopoulos]

David West to the Pacers. 2yr 20M. Woo Hoo!

Really? Yikes! Remember when LaMarcus was accused of being overpaid?

I guess the Pacers crapped out on Nene, then.

Supposedly they're going to sign-and-trade McRoberts to Memphis for OJ Mayo. (Which means that the Grizzlies turned Kevin Love into Josh McRoberts. I guess they're both tall white guys.)

 

[julius]

Why would the Grizzlies want McROberts?

Portland should send them someone for him.

 

[illmatic99]

Collison-Mayo-Granger-West-Hibbert

with Ford, Dahntay Jones, George, Hansborough, Pendy, Foster and Stephenson off the bench.

That is one sick roster. Could get HCA in the east if healthy.

 

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Why would the Grizzlies want McROberts?

Portland should send them someone for him.

Maybe because of:

Houston's close to signing Marc Gasol to max-contract offer sheet, working a sign-and-trade with Memphis to secure him, league sources say. [via Twitter]

If Gasol goes to Houston, I take back my declaration that MEM was clearly better than us.

 

[julius]

They want to replace Gasol with McBob!?

 

[illmatic99]

KP building another promising roster.

 

[julius]

KP building another promising roster.

well, going on his track record, they'll flame out in 2 years.

btw, when did director of player personal get credit for shit?

 

[Boob-No-More]

McRoberts seems to have developed into the player I'd hoped he'd be when the Blazers drafted him. Last year, he put up a PER = 16.0 playing 22 MPG on a play-off team. He's always been a good passing big man (career AST% = 13.9, last season = 15.0) and he posted excellent ORtg = 116 and DRtg = 104 numbers with 0.147 WS/48 and 4.9 Total WS. Those are all excellent numbers for a back-up big man. He also was 28th in the league in total dunks (74, right behind Andrew Bynum at 77) and had more dunks/48 than LaMarcus Aldridge, LeBron James, Dwyane Wade and most other people not named Blake Griffin. So much for the white men can't jump theory.

But, now that he's decent, the Blazers probably can't afford him.

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McRoberts seems to have developed into the player I'd hoped he'd be when the Blazers drafted him. Last year, he put up a PER = 16.0 playing 22 MPG on a play-off team. He's always been a good passing big man (career AST% = 13.9, last season = 15.0) and he posted excellent ORtg = 116 and DRtg = 104 numbers with 0.147 WS/48 and 4.9 Total WS. Those are all excellent numbers for a back-up big man. He also was 28th in the league in total dunks (74, right behind Andrew Bynum at 77) and had more dunks/48 than LaMarcus Aldridge, LeBron James, Dwyane Wade and most other people not named Blake Griffin. So much for the white men can't jump theory.

But, now that he's decent, the Blazers probably can't afford him.

BNM

McBob played well last year. The problem was that he is not a clear starter and Hansbo is not either. West gives my other team that and now there are not many minutes left for him to play. Mayo for McBob makes alot of sense.

 

[Boob-No-More]

They want to replace Gasol with McBob!?

Chris Wallace working his magic. Just when Memphis stumbled onto a team that was full with young talent and made some noise in the play-offs, he's going to give away both OJ Mayo and Marc Gasol? Why the fuck is Memphis having a fire sale? Shouldn't they just let it bake?

BNM

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

Chris Wallace working his magic. Just when Memphis stumbled onto a team that was full with young talent and made some noise in the play-offs, he's going to give away both OJ Mayo and Marc Gasol? Why the fuck is Memphis having a fire sale? Shouldn't they just let it bake?

BNM

Yeah, but he has gotten out of the first round of the playoffs

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[Brock]

remember when we had a good bench?

 

[3RA1N1AC]

let it bake!

 

[Fez Hammersticks]

I can't think of a better thing to post for my 10,000th than this gem:

Sam Amico @SamAmicoFSO
David West a true throwback. Takes more money to play for Pacers instead of less to team up w/friends and "try to win title." Good for him.

 

[Boob-No-More]

McBob played well last year. The problem was that he is not a clear starter and Hansbo is not either. West gives my other team that and now there are not many minutes left for him to play. Mayo for McBob makes alot of sense.

For Indy, yes. But, why is Memphis trading for McRoberts when they already have a very similar player coming off the bench in Darrell Arthur? With ZBo starting an getting most of the minutes at the 4, adding McRoberts seems to create a similar situation in Memphos to what Indy is trying to avoid - two guys of more, or less, equal talent splitting limited back-up minutes at the same position. You could argue that McRoberts is marginally better, in some ways, that Arthur, but is he enough of an upgrade to give up your leading scorer off the bench?

The deal make perfect sense for Indy. Not so much for Memphis - until you remember who their GM is.

BNM

 

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I can't think of a better thing to post for my 10,000th than this gem:

Sam Amico @SamAmicoFSO
David West a true throwback. Takes more money to play for Pacers instead of less to team up w/friends and "try to win title." Good for him.

Is West going to win the Nobel for taking the most money offered?

 

[Boob-No-More]

Yeah, but he has gotten out of the first round of the playoffs

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And then promptly blows it up. Even a blind squirrel occasionally finds an acorn. Only a stupid squirrel throws it back.

BNM

 

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For Indy, yes. But, why is Memphis trading for McRoberts when they already have a very similar player coming off the bench in Darrell Arthur? With ZBo starting an getting most of the minutes at the 4, adding McRoberts seems to create a similar situation in Memphos to what Indy is trying to avoid - two guys of more, or less, equal talent splitting limited back-up minutes at the same position. You could argue that McRoberts is marginally better, in some ways, that Arthur, but is he enough of an upgrade to give up your leading scorer off the bench?

The deal make perfect sense for Indy. Not so much for Memphis - until you remember who their GM is.

BNM

I think it has more to do with his salary and Wallace liking the defense of Vasquez, energy of Allen, and knowing there are only so many basketballs to shoot. Wallace seems to really like McBob over Arthur though. Agree that it is a slight upgrade if anything.

Indy will probably have to give up a #1 as well since that was the trade agreed to at the deadline. Really do not know why Indy wants to revisit this with picking up George Hill and wanting to give minutes to Lance Stephenson.