Event AT what point would you consider the US to be over populated.

[~~~GOD~~~]

You meant to say trump.

As I have provided free will, I have understood that a form of government is essential to help maintain peace and uniformity for my children. I do not, however have an opinion on which form is best, as I believe all the current forms are avoiding the truth about the essential meaning of life.

There is a misconception that growth is good. This is not correct. Continued growth will be the death of your current way of life. This need for growth is stemmed from greed. To have more. To be bigger than your neighbor.

I do understand that this instinct was stemmed in an earlier time when it was essential for families to have many children to tend to flocks and crops, but along the way humans turned this instinct into a monetary want, instead of a survivalists need.

With that said, to try to understand my children, when you say destroy and refer to Trump, are you aware that during the time of your current leader, your unemployment has hit record lows, especially for your minority Black race.

What I find disturbing, is the racial inequalities that have reared to the forefront for so many years of my children's existence. Humans didn't keep track of Black unemployment until your human year of 1972.

So my thought is yes, Trump is indeed contributing to the destruction, but in a way never seen before that is actually helping those in need more than ever before.

There was a time when Black man reigned supreme on Mother Earth. All races have have had a reign of Power at some point in your history. Now is the time for all power to be shared by all races. Create an eternal equality amongst all, and conflicts will diminish to nothingness.

 

[~~~GOD~~~]

Alright, this is getting annoying.

Hello young son.

Let anger and annoyances control you and you will never achieve your potential... and I shall remain sad at yet another loss of greatness.

You have so much ahead of you. So much potential. Do not let petty annoyances and anger over items and situations of which you are not able to control, dictate your behavior and mindset.
Rise above, remain positive, persevere with a never ending drive, and you will accomplish many great things in your life.

 

[BonesJones]

Hello young son.

Let anger and annoyances control you and you will never achieve your potential... and I shall remain sad at yet another loss of greatness.

You have so much ahead of you. So much potential. Do not let petty annoyances and anger over items and situations of which you are not able to control, dictate your behavior and mindset.
Rise above, remain positive, persevere with a never ending drive, and you will accomplish many great things in your life.

Smh.

 

[BonesJones]

We don't need a preacher pretendng to be God.

 

[MarAzul]

I do understand that this instinct was stemmed in an earlier time when it was essential for families to have many children to tend to flocks and crops, but along the way humans turned this instinct into a monetary want, instead of a survivalists need.

About half right. But its not just monetary want, it's want for power. Immigration is now driving our (USA) population growth. Immigrants can be sold the progressive socialist pitch.

 

[BonesJones]

About half right. But its not just monetary want, it's want for power. Immigrants is now driving our (USA) population growth. Immigrants can be sold the progressive socialist pitch.

MarAzul wanders over to the main section, just to argue with God.

 

[Orion Bailey]

About half right. But its not just monetary want, it's want for power. Immigrants is now driving our (USA) population growth. Immigrants can be sold the progressive socialist pitch.

Immigrants (are) NOW driving our population growth???

I have to ask. Are you serious or joking?

You do know that the only natives to this land are the native American Indians right?
You do know that all people on this continent with European, African and Asian decent are immigrants, right?
You do know that Christopher Columbus was an immigrant right?

 

[CupWizier]

Very True. Let dviss know. His reaction will be entertaining.

Nice that trump hasn't fucked up the trend of lowering unemployment while Obama was in office.

 

[Orion Bailey]

Nice that trump hasn't fucked up the trend of lowering unemployment while Obama was in office.

You guys are avid fishermen. Your dedication deserves respect.

 

[CupWizier]

About half right. But its not just monetary want, it's want for power. Immigrants is now driving our (USA) population growth. Immigrants can be sold the progressive socialist pitch.

And where do you think the largest growth of immigrants is coming from? Hispanic? African? British? Asian?

 

[TorturedBlazerFan]

What’s all this political crap gotta do with This thread...

 

[Orion Bailey]

What’s all this political crap gotta do with This thread...

Some asshat posts from an obvious troll...
But there is no substance to this thread anyhow so it doesnt matter.

 

[riverman]

Immigrants can be sold the progressive socialist pitch.

Well the military is pretty socialist and after the potato famine millions of my Irish ancestors emigrated via military service.....passport for joining the army...China had virtually no immigration as the middle kingdom and no navy at the time with a one child policy and ballooned to a billion in population. The US isn't overpopulated....it was just really sparsely populated when you were growing up

 

[MarAzul]

I have to ask. Are you serious or joking?

I am completely serious.


"The CDC calculates a "total fertility rate" by estimating how many babies a hypothetical group of 1,000 women would likely have over their lifetime. That measure now stands at 1,764.5 births per 1,000 women — a 3 percent drop from 2016. The replacement rate is 2,100 births per 1,000 women."

This means our population would be declining if it were not for immigration. It is not declining, we are on track to double our population not long after the mid point of this century.

https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo...ar-low-sending-fertility-rate-to-a-record-low

 

[riverman]

I am completely serious.


"The CDC calculates a "total fertility rate" by estimating how many babies a hypothetical group of 1,000 women would likely have over their lifetime. That measure now stands at 1,764.5 births per 1,000 women — a 3 percent drop from 2016. The replacement rate is 2,100 births per 1,000 women."

This means our population would be declining if it were not for immigration. It is not declining, we are on track to double our population not long after the mid point of this century.

https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo...ar-low-sending-fertility-rate-to-a-record-low

and how many children did you and your family contribute to the problem?

 

[MarAzul]

The US isn't overpopulated

At what point would you say we have enough?

 

[MarAzul]

and how many children did you and your family contribute to the problem?

Slightly less than the replacement rate.

 

[riverman]

At what point would you say we have enough?

We devote more space to the automobiles than we do to people it seems....we have an automobile overpopulation ...how many cars is enough?

 

[riverman]

At what point would you say we have enough?

I've traveled through India and believe me....we're not close to having a population disaster...we have massive land that is uninhabited

 

[riverman]

At what point would you say we have enough?

At what point do we let people start dying of natural causes instead of propping them up for 20 years after they are unable to care for themselves? We keep really sick people alive with pharma and medical insurance longer than most people on the planet.....we just don't let people die who would die naturally...economics will drive planned parenthood for future generations...my son and daughter in law are very careful about having the ways and means before bringing children into their lives

 

[MarAzul]

.how many cars is enough?

One per person would be fine for what I do. But I would not want to dictate any such limit. The total number of cars is directly dependent on the number of people we have.

 

[riverman]

The total number of cars is directly dependent on the number of people we have.

no it's not.....half mile up the road is a family of 5...they have about 30 cars parked on their property...parking lots, gas stations, roads, etc....we have bloated the automobile population beyond reason in my view

 

[MarAzul]

my son and daughter in law are very careful about having the ways and means before bringing children into their lives

Like I said, our population growth is completely due to immigration. And you avoid answering the salient question. You know over population can and does exist but you avoid pondering the specifics for you own country.

 

[Orion Bailey]

At what point would you say we have enough?

When the worlds wealth is spread out to every human equally and have run the earth dry of resources.

Obviously we will not want to hit that point, but until wealth is evenly distributed for each individual to fend for themselves equally, that is not a question anyone can answer.
Some of us Whites talk about minority suppression and How things are equal now and minorities have it the same, but thats bs. They were never given the jumpstart that Europian immigrants had by coming here and taking the land over, then raping its land and tesources for profit using slave labor to do it all. They were happy and content in their own culture and lifestyles without feeling the need to spread and consume.
Yes, we originally migrated to get away from oppression, but we Came here and proceeded to suppress all minority immagrants in the process.
It was a completely discusting display of hypocrisy that will never be forgotten and should be burned into every humans brain so the same dreadful mistakes are not made again. We must become more aware of the trickle down effect of the actions of our ancestors. Just because it is an instant world where yesterdays news is forgotten, doesnt mean we should neglect the fact that todays racial issues are still the aftermath of the actions of our ancestors and it takes more than just a few generations of healing before something like that can be trivialized as the past.
In the greater scheme of things it just happened not long ago. Its fresh history in the timeline of man.

 

[riverman]

Like I said, our population growth is completely due to immigration. And you avoid answering the salient question. You know over population can and does exist but you avoid pondering the specifics for you own country.

simply not true...you assume a lot ….our population growth has always been due to being the world's melting pot...don't think the English didn't contribute as well. I'm sure you'd have no problem if a Norwegian moved next door tomorrow...however you do have a problem with the more southern folks it seems...Taiwan was extremely gracious to all of us ex pats who lived and worked there....we should follow their example and the inscription on the statue of liberty

 

[MarAzul]

we have bloated the automobile population beyond reason in my view

Your view? Well do you object to cars? Or do you object to other people having cars? Or do you object to your neighbor family having 30? Would a law making it illegal to own more than six per person help? It would not affect anyone I know, but for the guy that owns the Enterprise car rental place. It probably would ruin his business.

 

[riverman]

you avoid

You know

you don't seem to have a grip on anything I've said...that's avoiding.....you seem to think our extended life span has nothing to do with population

 

[riverman]

Well do you object to cars?

nice try...no banana

 

[MarAzul]

simply not true...you assume a lot

Wtf is going on here

Sorry! You are correct! We are in the wrong forum.

 

[Orion Bailey]

no it's not.....half mile up the road is a family of 5...they have about 30 cars parked on their property...parking lots, gas stations, roads, etc....we have bloated the automobile population beyond reason in my view

simply not true...you assume a lot ….our population growth has always been due to being the world's melting pot...don't think the English didn't contribute as well. I'm sure you'd have no problem if a Norwegian moved next door tomorrow...however you do have a problem with the more southern folks it seems

Contributed and originated.
Lets not forget that Africans and Asians were not migrating here in numbers like the Europeans in the decades after the Americas were discovered and mapped. We started gathering them up and bringing them here to do our dirty work, because we thought they were only three fifths of man. Not all man. Not equal, but here simply to be our servant slaves. Barely thought as more than a pet of sorts.
Its really appauling that there are some that dismiss all of this in thier rebuttals and arguments in defense of whites not being the overall cause of our current racial conditions in this country.
There is no fixing it or population control until every single white man on this planet acknowledges the atrocities of the last several hundred years and share equally the resources we hoarded with the slave labor we forced them to do.

Really. If i were on the other side, i dont know if i would ever completely trust without something dramatic like that happening. A world unity and agreement to calculate the worlds wealth and redistribute equally to all.
Not realistic i know, but i do not believe there to really be any other answer to truly get past racial tensions and inequalities.