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Im rewatching the last dance and a scene last night changed my thoughts on this. At one point the media was asking Michael about Pippen’s trade request. At a point, Jordan said, “you gonna ask me about the game or are we gonna talk about Pippen?” In a manner that made it clear he is no longer gonna discuss Pippen.

The media, at all levels, have really disintegrated into gossip columnists. Sports, politics, all levels.
A true reporter is very rare indeed.

Marang is better than Quick.

Highkin is better than Quick.

Richman is better than Quick.

These are all guys who aren’t really into the muck raking like the former Oregonian guys from the early 2000s.
 
Marang is better than Quick.

Highkin is better than Quick.

Richman is better than Quick.

These are all guys who aren’t really into the muck raking like the former Oregonian guys from the early 2000s.

Wow! and that isn't saying much considering the Marang hate around here. Lol. That puts Quick at snake-level reporting.
 
Not saying it was a good move. Ayton keeps making things harder on himself. But I’m saying that I think that was the moment that he made an enemy for life from J Quick.

Oh, yeah, obviously. If I was giving the impression I was coming at you on this, my apologies. I was just commenting on Ayton's play, like you said, making things harder on himself than they need to be.

But you and I both have been in this business. I don't know Quick personally, but you don't cover pro or major college teams without encountering multiple beat writers who either are into sensationalism, hold petty grudges or both.
 
Oh, yeah, obviously. If I was giving the impression I was coming at you on this, my apologies. I was just commenting on Ayton's play, like you said, making things harder on himself than they need to be.

But you and I both have been in this business. I don't know Quick personally, but you don't cover pro or major college teams without encountering multiple beat writers who either are into sensationalism, hold petty grudges or both.
Quick and Canzano came from a time when print writers were still prestigious. They wielded a lot of power around the blazers and they acted like it. I imagine it was a pretty massive ego hit when the Oregonian crumbled and they’re a couple of has-beens.
 
Im rewatching the last dance and a scene last night changed my thoughts on this. At one point the media was asking Michael about Pippen’s trade request. At a point, Jordan said, “you gonna ask me about the game or are we gonna talk about Pippen?” In a manner that made it clear he is no longer gonna discuss Pippen.

The media, at all levels, have really disintegrated into gossip columnists. Sports, politics, all levels.
A true reporter is very rare indeed.

I don't think asking a guy whose last stop ended acrimoniously for his feelings about facing that team are gossip. On the contrary, I think it has value and can reveal a lot about their character or other aspects.

For instance, let's say Ayton took this question on head on and said "A lot's been said about that. I'm looking ahead, not back. It's been widely reported that we didn't see eye to eye and I won't deny that, but I'm here now and I want to show the people of Portland the person and player I am." That quashes anything Quick or anything are going to try to spin negatively right there. That's a mature answer.

Ayton's play there not only was weak, it fanned the flames of what haters were saying about him.

He's a former No. 1 pick and a player to whom a lot of resources have been assigned. It's fair to want to know if he's someone whose psyche is stable enough to build around.

I'll tell you another reason why the questions were fair and why they were fair to Jordan and didn't deserve pushback: Because the availability to these players is limited.

Nate and I both have been in these situations. There are no parameters set on what is on or off the table. You don't go into a practice the day after a game for a media availability typically asking questions about last night's game -- that's what the postgame availability last night was for. Ayton knows that. Jordan knew that. They just tried to throw their weight around, which wasn't justified in either case.

If you want to put it into a different context, if your president makes comments that seem incendiary and thousands of his supporters immediately storm the capitol and a riot ensues and his next media availability is signing a trade agreement with Backwaterstan, would you think it was good journalism to avoid asking him for his thoughts and potential role in the riot just because he said "I was told the only questions would be on the Backwaterstan trade deal today"? You probably wouldn't.
 
Quick and Canzano came from a time when print writers were still prestigious. They wielded a lot of power around the blazers and they acted like it. I imagine it was a pretty massive ego hit when the Oregonian crumbled and they’re a couple of has-beens.

If that were the case, I don't think so many of us still would be here talking about them all the time. Not saying you're completely wrong, but I think there's more to it than that.

If a bum on the street yells that we're a loser for attention, most of us wouldn't even give them the time of day.
 
If that were the case, I don't think so many of us still would be here talking about them all the time. Not saying you're completely wrong, but I think there's more to it than that.

If a bum on the street yells that we're a loser for attention, most of us wouldn't even give them the time of day.
He’s still a name. Like Canzano. Like Dwight Jaynes. Like Kenny Vance. Guys that people knew who were connected at one time. Are they connected still? Who knows. Probably not. But people know their names and still listen.
 
Marang is better than Quick.

Highkin is better than Quick.

Richman is better than Quick.

These are all guys who aren’t really into the muck raking like the former Oregonian guys from the early 2000s.

I think muck raking still has its value, just like the example about politics I gave to SharpeScooterShooter.

There's A LOT these teams and players can put out there on their own today that wasn't available in the 1990s. I think you'd agree, we can't take all their tweets as genuine answers to questions. Sometimes they are out and out dishonest.

Journalists with investigative skills are examining those POVs with multiple sources to get to the truth.

We have fans here all the time talking about, for instance, Cronin's quality of work. It usually comes down to none of us being able to make an informed answer because so many of these guys now are just scouring Insta and X, formerly Twitter and throwing out opinions or pure speculation. Journalists don't do the leg work to track down the facts anymore. I don't entirely blame them; the grief-to-compensation ratio often isn't worth it and has driven a lot of people really suited to doing the job into other professions.
 
He’s still a name. Like Canzano. Like Dwight Jaynes. Like Kenny Vance. Guys that people knew who were connected at one time. Are they connected still? Who knows. Probably not. But people know their names and still listen.

Yeah, but that implies they still have cache. If that's the case, they aren't holding grudges against certain players because they miss the old days. They are holding grudges against players because they are just generally miserable people to start with.

Which I guess takes me back to my original post. I'm not saying Quick isn't being a petty jerk looking for payback, but just because we don't like Quick and Ayton is our guy doesn't change the fact that here's a 7-foot, 250-pound multimillionaire who is new to the market looking to some 5-6 guy at his side as a shield for a very legitimate question that he just could have answered directly or answered more artfully.

Sometimes a skilled reporter might ask a question as much to gauge a reaction as to get an answer. Ayton's reaction, one could say, might have done a lot to reinforce the word coming out of Phoenix and the narrative dogging him around the league that he's not really willing to take on the harder tasks to be great. I mean, he's basically passing off a really soft question to Average Joe because he's chafed by it.

Also, as a journalist, we have a job to get honest answers and inform the public. I don't go into press conferences wanting to clash with players and coaches. I would love to write a quality story without controversy and go home. Sometimes, though, that responsibility thing gets in the way of that. If someone dodges a question, a good journalist has a job to try to get the answer some other way. That includes asking the same question in a slightly different way or pointing out to the interview subject that that wasn't an answer.
 
I don't think asking a guy whose last stop ended acrimoniously for his feelings about facing that team are gossip. On the contrary, I think it has value and can reveal a lot about their character or other aspects.

For instance, let's say Ayton took this question on head on and said "A lot's been said about that. I'm looking ahead, not back. It's been widely reported that we didn't see eye to eye and I won't deny that, but I'm here now and I want to show the people of Portland the person and player I am." That quashes anything Quick or anything are going to try to spin negatively right there. That's a mature answer.

Ayton's play there not only was weak, it fanned the flames of what haters were saying about him.

He's a former No. 1 pick and a player to whom a lot of resources have been assigned. It's fair to want to know if he's someone whose psyche is stable enough to build around.

I'll tell you another reason why the questions were fair and why they were fair to Jordan and didn't deserve pushback: Because the availability to these players is limited.

Nate and I both have been in these situations. There are no parameters set on what is on or off the table. You don't go into a practice the day after a game for a media availability typically asking questions about last night's game -- that's what the postgame availability last night was for. Ayton knows that. Jordan knew that. They just tried to throw their weight around, which wasn't justified in either case.

If you want to put it into a different context, if your president makes comments that seem incendiary and thousands of his supporters immediately storm the capitol and a riot ensues and his next media availability is signing a trade agreement with Backwaterstan, would you think it was good journalism to avoid asking him for his thoughts and potential role in the riot just because he said "I was told the only questions would be on the Backwaterstan trade deal today"? You probably wouldn't.

My gossip comment was more in general.
But every person is different.
Id prefer to focus on the future and not the past. With that said, Some things Ayton says are suspect to me, so i do get your point.
 
After the disaster covering of GpII Toradol injections by Sham, the lack of Blazers coverage during the season, I can see myself cancelling my subscription to The Athletic. And as a journalist myself I am happy to support good journalism. But its a massive disappointment now.
 
After the disaster covering of GpII Toradol injections by Sham, the lack of Blazers coverage during the season, I can see myself cancelling my subscription to The Athletic. And as a journalist myself I am happy to support good journalism. But its a massive disappointment now.
If I hadn't been grandfathered in with a $1 a month subscription, I'd be in the same boat.
 
https://www.nba.com/blazers/news/ayton-finds-rhythm-since-returning-from-injury

PORTLAND -- It took a bit of time, but we’re finally starting to see the best of what Trail Blazers center Deandre Ayton has to offer.



After a bit of a slow start to his career in Portland, much of which is likely due to especially poorly-timed injuries, the 7-0 center in his seventh season out of Arizona has been, as he might put it, “dominayton” as of late.



“I’ve been having a lot of fun since I got here, just playing freely, listening to the coaches, playing with guys my age, younger guys than me,” said Ayton after putting up 22 points on 11-of-12 shooting from the field and 16 rebounds in Tuesday’s loss to the Timberwolves at Moda Center. “Just having that dominant feeling of just knowing that my team is depending on me on both ends of the floor, just knowing that I have to show up on every possession.”



After sitting out 12 games with a minor knee injury between the end of 2023 and the start of 2024, Ayton has shown himself to be a force on both ends of the court in the 12 games he’s played since returning to the lineup.




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“I’ve been trying to humble myself a little bit and just accept the challenge, have some humility when it comes to failure,” said Ayton. “Not try to rush anything. We’re a young team but we’re an exciting team as well. We just can’t skip no steps and we have to go through these growing pains a little bit where we’re just trying to know each other, really.”



Whether it’s due to better health, both his and that of his teammates, better chemistry with the teams’ guards or an improved understanding of his role and expectations of the coaching staff, Ayton has looked every bit like the player who was selected by the Suns with the top overall pick of the 2018 Draft.



“It just feels good that they’re trusting me now, just trying to find me the best way they can in pockets and in pick-and-rolls, even in dump offs when they’re attacking the rim,” said Ayton. “I truly appreciate this team for just trying to adapt to me and my style of play. Honestly, I’m playing harder for them. You can see the trust and it’s vice versa.”



Between that trust and adaptation, Ayton has averaged 17.8 points on 62 percent shooting from the field, 11.0 rebounds, 2.0 assists and 1.4 blocks in his last 10 games.




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He’s shooting 73 percent within five feet of the basket, 69 percent within eight feet and 64 percent between 15 and 19 feet during that same span. And he’s shooting 78 percent from the field early in the shot clock and 69 percent late in the shot clock.



“(Ayton) has been playing great, wonderful lately,” said Anfernee Simons. “That’s what we’ve been wanting from him, be that player we know he can be every single night for us. Whether the shots are falling or not, just his presence on defense, rebounds, just be an anchor for us on the defensive end. That’s what we want from him each and every night and I think he’s been stringing together a lot of games for us where he’s there.”



Ayton continuing to build familiarity with his guards, be it Simons, Malcolm Brogdon, Scoot Henderson or Dalano Banton, and bringing consistent, regular effort on both ends of the floor would go a long ways toward laying the bedrock for future seasons with the Trail Blazers. It might not have started off as quickly as anyone would have liked, but there’s still plenty of time to make up for it, both this season and in the future.



“We some young dudes, man,” said Ayton. “I give these dudes a good summer, a good offseason together, we should be solid. Looking forward to winning these games instead of just learning.”
 
I was at the game last night and would wager there is no love lost between Ayton and Simons.
 
After the disaster covering of GpII Toradol injections by Sham, the lack of Blazers coverage during the season, I can see myself cancelling my subscription to The Athletic. And as a journalist myself I am happy to support good journalism. But its a massive disappointment now.
I don't know how much I'm paying (I think it's super-cheap, and if it's not, I'll bounce) but I get value by going there and rating and commenting on the articles. Not that I have conversations there or anything, but after having news broadcast to me from so many media outlets, it's nice to give SOME feedback.

Does that make the journalism better? No. But it's something.

I also enjoy the fantasy football coverage they do, but the reality is I can get more info from YouTube (albeit in video form) and that would not be enough to keep my subscription alone.
 
Several games ago Ayton was trying to talk to Ant on the bench during a t/o. Ant simply waved off his comments and dismissed him completely. Ant did the exact same thing last night on the court as they were returning from a timeout.

Yikes.
 
I may be wrong, but …

I don’t expect an Ayton trade …
Or a 3-guard lineup of Scoot, Simons, and Sharpe that works even in the opinion of Blazers’ management …
Or Scoot or Sharpe getting traded instead of Ant being traded …

And so I do expect Scoot, Sharpe and Ayton as 3 of the core moving forward.
With Grant at 30 in a month, he’ll still be in his early 30s when the younger dudes are ready for the playoffs in 2-3 years. BUT will he be the right fit at that time? My guess is no.

But I could be wrong.

I hope Ayton’s game matures with consistent, elite rebounding and scoring at the hoop.
 
I may be wrong, but …

I don’t expect an Ayton trade …
Or a 3-guard lineup of Scoot, Simons, and Sharpe that works even in the opinion of Blazers’ management …
Or Scoot or Sharpe getting traded instead of Ant being traded …

And so I do expect Scoot, Sharpe and Ayton as 3 of the core moving forward.
With Grant at 30 in a month, he’ll still be in his early 30s when the younger dudes are ready for the playoffs in 2-3 years. BUT will he be the right fit at that time? My guess is no.

But I could be wrong.

I hope Ayton’s game matures with consistent, elite rebounding and scoring at the hoop.

This is my hope.
 
I may be wrong, but …

I don’t expect an Ayton trade …
Or a 3-guard lineup of Scoot, Simons, and Sharpe that works even in the opinion of Blazers’ management …
Or Scoot or Sharpe getting traded instead of Ant being traded …

And so I do expect Scoot, Sharpe and Ayton as 3 of the core moving forward.
With Grant at 30 in a month, he’ll still be in his early 30s when the younger dudes are ready for the playoffs in 2-3 years. BUT will he be the right fit at that time? My guess is no.

But I could be wrong.

I hope Ayton’s game matures with consistent, elite rebounding and scoring at the hoop.

One of Alex Sarr, Risachere or Cody Williams will also be a part of the foundation as well.
 
I may be wrong, but …

I don’t expect an Ayton trade …
Or a 3-guard lineup of Scoot, Simons, and Sharpe that works even in the opinion of Blazers’ management …
Or Scoot or Sharpe getting traded instead of Ant being traded …

And so I do expect Scoot, Sharpe and Ayton as 3 of the core moving forward.
With Grant at 30 in a month, he’ll still be in his early 30s when the younger dudes are ready for the playoffs in 2-3 years. BUT will he be the right fit at that time? My guess is no.

But I could be wrong.

I hope Ayton’s game matures with consistent, elite rebounding and scoring at the hoop.

Why would the team start with broken core?
 
Also, it is very nice, that broken core is nice for people outside the court, but his attitude can jump over on Scoot and Sharpe and then we are fucked from the very beginning.
 
Several games ago Ayton was trying to talk to Ant on the bench during a t/o. Ant simply waved off his comments and dismissed him completely. Ant did the exact same thing last night on the court as they were returning from a timeout.
This should send some red flags.
 

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