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My point is that we've seen what Bayless can do and we've known what Bayless can do since that New Jersey game. Nothing changed tonight.
 
Tonight in 1 game, Bayless attempted 10 free throws. Through tonights game, Steve Blake had attempted 23 free throws for the whole year. :devilwink:
 
I've said it before and I'll say it again. Trade Miller for a forward. It solves EVERYTHING.
 
KingSpeed said:
Well, the fact of the matter is.... he's not really. It will all depend on how well Miller and Blake are playing and once Rudy comes back, if there are no trades, Bayless will see less minutes. Structural changes have to happen to this team for Bayless to get a larger role.
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His play could and hopefully will give KP/Nate the confidence to make the move you mention.

It has as much to do with how Bayless is playing as how Miller and Blake are playing.

He had a larger role tonight!
 
KingSpeed said:
I've said it before and I'll say it again. Trade Miller for a forward. It solves EVERYTHING.
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Until people start trickling back in from injury ...

Whatever happens roster consolidation is well past due.
 
It's a step closer to the end game I want. I want the 3 guard rotations of Roy, Bayless and Fernandez. No other guard plays a single minute unless there is serious foul trouble. That way each guard gets a tons of minutes, each guard shares the PG duties so they are happy with playmaking opportunities, and each guard is a capable scorer who can finish on the break. All guards have a fair amount of size. Bayless and Rudy defend the 1's. Rudy and Roy defend the 2's.
 
hasoos said:
It's a step closer to the end game I want. I want the 3 guard rotations of Roy, Bayless and Fernandez. No other guard plays a single minute unless there is serious foul trouble. That way each guard gets a tons of minutes, each guard shares the PG duties so they are happy with playmaking opportunities, and each guard is a capable scorer who can finish on the break. All guards have a fair amount of size. Bayless and Rudy defend the 1's. Rudy and Roy defend the 2's.
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We'll need a forward.

Preferably a flex one.
 
Nikolokolus said:
Until people start trickling back in from injury ...
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I say we deal with that then. Look at the Magic. Nelson got hurt so they traded for Alston and made the damn NBA Finals! Then they sent Alston packing!
 
hasoos said:
It's a step closer to the end game I want. I want the 3 guard rotations of Roy, Bayless and Fernandez. No other guard plays a single minute unless there is serious foul trouble. That way each guard gets a tons of minutes, each guard shares the PG duties so they are happy with playmaking opportunities, and each guard is a capable scorer who can finish on the break. All guards have a fair amount of size. Bayless and Rudy defend the 1's. Rudy and Roy defend the 2's.
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I'm board for that. Still need Blake though cuz you gotta have 12 players and he's good to have just in case.
 
B-Roy said:
We'll need a forward.

Preferably a flex one.
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Yep. But that would narrow the problems down. Guard rotation fixed, expect jelling by end of year. PF nailed down. Center is Joel plus a backup. We would just need to iron out SF.
 
Also- need I remind everyone that we have another decent PG in Patty Mills?? A trade has to happen. Miller has to go.
 
KingSpeed said:
I'm board for that. Still need Blake though cuz you gotta have 12 players and he's good to have just in case.
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You know I have no problem with Blake being a bench player on the team, I think he is a full team player who buys in whether from bench or starter. I don't think he is paid too much to sit on the bench and keep quiet until his number is called. My problem is that sometimes with Nate, if you leave a player on a team, Nate will find a way to fuck it up and put them in the game at the expense of a better player. I am hoping tonight is a sign that Nate is beginning to see the light about which guards are truly talented on this team. But every time I watch the game I am expecting him to jerk Bayless out at any second, for absolutely no reason.
 
I'd say Blake has to go. He's a free agent after the season anyway.
 
Blake has to go.

Miller as a mentor for JBay (Miller has been a stud in the league and can teach JBay as he grows into the pro game), and pick-up a SF/PF in exchange for Blake.

Mills 3rd PG.
 
What do you guys think Blake's value around the league is at this point? He is expiring right?
 
HIs value would be little more than a warm body at another position, which would be helpful.
 
WillG said:
Blake has to go.

Miller as a mentor for JBay (Miller has been a stud in the league and can teach JBay as he grows into the pro game), and pick-up a SF/PF in exchange for Blake.

Mills 3rd PG.
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It sure seems from how they act on/off the court, that Blake is more of a mentor to Bayless than miller. Also, when everyone was asked which Blazer would most likely end up a future coach, the conclusion was Blake.

I am not a blake fan, nor a miller fan. To tell the truth, i have been sorely disappointed in both this season. But as far as a mentor, I think Blake is better than Miller.

Being better does not always correlate to being a better teacher. Just look at how little Blake had to work with. He is one of the least athletic people in the NBA, and yet he works and works and works, and studies and studies and studies to become better. Miller is said to be the first to leave when practice is over. Blake is said to be the last. Which would you rather have teach our young Bayless?
 
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Blazer_Hippie said:
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How did you get him to hold that sign?
 
B-Roy said:
It was a win.
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For THE FIRST TIME, I saw "confidence" in Bayless and his (second half) play!

This was an impressive sign.

Now it is up to Nate whether this gets built upon, or fanned out!

I'm worried over this quite frankly. I can see Bayless getting a whopping 7 minutes against the Suns - and this would really hurt Bayless.

On the other hand, let's say Nate goes with Bayless against the Suns - and again tells him "be aggressive - go out there and do it" - - -

THEN, the game against the SUNS becomes his true "break out" and where he [Bayless] is truly "set free!"
 
BoomChakaLaka said:
For THE FIRST TIME, I saw "confidence" in Bayless and his (second half) play
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Really? For the first time? Bayless has had confidence since Day 1. He's just never been given regular minutes ever. And I don't think he will get regular minutes unless there's a trade and trading Blake would be a HUGE mistake. Two of our better three point shooters, Batum & Outlaw, are out for a couple more months at least. And Rudy's out another month. We need Blake's three point shooting. Point blank. We need it. Plus, as was said, Blake is a team first guy who is the last to leave practice. That engine is needed in our locker room.

Miller, on the other hand? We were doing just fine before he came along and he doesn't bring much to the table that Bayless and Roy don't already bring in their own ways.

Trade Miller for a forward. Fuck, we wanted a forward to begin with. That's why we went after Turkoglu and Millsap first!
 
I want them to trade Blake because I have zero faith in Nate starting Bayless if Blake and him are the PGs. He's not too big on Miller, and Miller is 33 and is only here for 2 years, I think it's a much better timeline for Bayless. I also don't know what the hell Blake would mentor him about other than a great work ethic, which Jerryd already has.

This is assuming Nate is here next year.

I actually agree with KS (I can't believe I'm writing this) that Bayless had more impressive games, but the great thing about this occasion is he was trusted to be in there over a more experienced player in cruch time of a close game.
 
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KingSpeed said:
Really? For the first time? Bayless has had confidence since Day 1. He's just never been given regular minutes ever. And I don't think he will get regular minutes unless there's a trade and trading Blake would be a HUGE mistake. Two of our better three point shooters, Batum & Outlaw, are out for a couple more months at least. And Rudy's out another month. We need Blake's three point shooting. Point blank. We need it. Plus, as was said, Blake is a team first guy who is the last to leave practice. That engine is needed in our locker room.

Miller, on the other hand? We were doing just fine before he came along and he doesn't bring much to the table that Bayless and Roy don't already bring in their own ways.

Trade Miller for a forward. Fuck, we wanted a forward to begin with. That's why we went after Turkoglu and Millsap first!
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But Blakes shooting sucks this yr, how can you say we "need that"? LOL
 
Well, Bayless the PG sucked last night. Bayless the SG played very well.

The problem is that Bayless the SG is stuck behind Rudy when he returns.
 
KingSpeed said:
Really? For the first time? Bayless has had confidence since Day 1. He's just never been given regular minutes ever. And I don't think he will get regular minutes unless there's a trade and trading Blake would be a HUGE mistake. Two of our better three point shooters, Batum & Outlaw, are out for a couple more months at least. And Rudy's out another month. We need Blake's three point shooting. Point blank. We need it. Plus, as was said, Blake is a team first guy who is the last to leave practice. That engine is needed in our locker room.

Miller, on the other hand? We were doing just fine before he came along and he doesn't bring much to the table that Bayless and Roy don't already bring in their own ways.

Trade Miller for a forward. Fuck, we wanted a forward to begin with. That's why we went after Turkoglu and Millsap first!
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Steve Blake's percentages this year:

37/34/70.

Not something we need.

Miller should be the mentor for Bayless. Blake should be traded as he has a bit of value as an expiring (lord knows his value doesn't come from his play on the court).

Also, you're a fool if you favor Mills over Miller.
 
BLAZER PROPHET said:
Well, Bayless the PG sucked last night. Bayless the SG played very well.

The problem is that Bayless the SG is stuck behind Rudy when he returns.
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well I think we are finding out that ANY PG who dominates the ball just ain't gonna work with Roy. And a guy like Blake will not really get us anywhere as we need another threat, inside and out. Bayless IMO can be paired with ROY and I think will be "good enough" at the PG side of things and very good as the "other threat" to keep the pressure off Roy. I really liked what I saw in the last 2 minutes.
 
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