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What's the most you would give up for Ben Simmons?

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I don't think Morey wants a CJ/Roco type trade. He will hold out until the deadline if needed to get an all-star. Whether he is successful is another matter.
 
Cugel said:
I don't think Morey wants a CJ/Roco type trade. He will hold out until the deadline if needed to get an all-star. Whether he is successful is another matter.
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At this point, with how Roco is playing, and Little and Simons are playing, I'd be happy with CJ and Roco for Simmons (my preference for him changes on a daily basis though).
 
julius said:
At this point, with how Roco is playing, and Little and Simons are playing, I'd be happy with CJ and Roco for Simmons (my preference for him changes on a daily basis though).
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At this point, with the way Dame, CJ and Roco are playing, I'd be satisfied with Dame and Rocco for Simmons (and I'd toss in a few first-round draft picks, since it'll be hard for Philadelphia to fit someone who can't shoot--like Lillard--into their offense).

Of course, my preferences change daily as well.
 
Minstrel said:
At this point, with the way Dame, CJ and Roco are playing, I'd be satisfied with Dame and Rocco for Simmons (and I'd toss in a few first-round draft picks, since it'll be hard for Philadelphia to fit someone who can't shoot--like Lillard--into their offense).

Of course, my preferences change daily as well.
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Snide comment aside, Roco hasn't exactly earned the benefit of the doubt to the degree Damian has. And truthfully, CJ and Damian has a backcourt has limitations. But yeah, what you said is exactly the same as what I said.
 
julius said:
Snide comment aside, Roco hasn't exactly earned the benefit of the doubt to the degree Damian has. And truthfully, CJ and Damian has a backcourt has limitations. But yeah, what you said is exactly the same as what I said.
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Dude, everything is not an attack on you. I was making a joke about Lillard, not sarcastically criticizing your post.
 
Minstrel said:
Dude, everything is not an attack on you. I was making a joke about Lillard, not sarcastically criticizing your post.
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I think if that was the case, it would've probably been better to leave out the "my preference changes daily" part.
 
julius said:
I think if that was the case, it would've probably been better to leave out the "my preference changes daily" part.
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That part was to make it clear it was a joke, before 10 people replied to my post with "lol ridiculous, stop hating."
 
Minstrel said:
That part was to make it clear it was a joke, before 10 people replied to my post with "lol ridiculous, stop hating."
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i thought it was funny. Not enough to like it( lol)but i got the joke. And thats sayin something cause half of the jokes around here go over my head.
 
Minstrel said:
That part was to make it clear it was a joke, before 10 people replied to my post with "lol ridiculous, stop hating."
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Should work on it. Like, "man, with the way Dame and Roco are playing blah blah blah"
 
Orion Bailey said:
https://sports.yahoo.com/amphtml/president-daryl-morey-gives-positive-144744547.html
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Team president Daryl Morey joined NBC Sports Philadelphia’s Amy Fadool to discuss Simmons’ situation and he had a bit of positive news on that front:

Ben came in at the end of last week and said he had back stiffness and he’s dealing with some personal reasons off the court. Both we take very seriously, we’re working with Ben to provide every resource to help him with what is needed. He spoke to his teammates, things seem to be moving very much in a positive direction. We’re going to provide all the resources, give Ben what he needs, and get him out there as soon as we can.​
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I don't see Ben playing anytime soon. He will have back tightness and other issues that prevent him from playing but try and force the 6ers to pay him.
 
Anybody remember how the salary matching works in trades for players that just got an extension on a rookie contract? I think they might be BYC (base year compensation) or something.

Shai Gilgeous-Alexander got a max extension. The Thunder likely have an epically horrible team, I don't see them being even 4 years away from contending. Seems like they could consider trading Shai for a bunch of picks and swaps. That would be the type of 3rd partner in a trade that Philly could want to involved for Ben Simmons.

The way Nurk and Roco are playing a few games in they don't have much value over vet minimum guys. They seem like the type of player Presti would trade for with the idea to improve their value and get a pick for later. Tradenba.com shows this works;

Philly: Shai, Favors
OKC: Roco, Nurk, Elleby, 3 Blazers firsts, 2 swaps
PDX: Simmons


Blazers depth chart after the trade;

Dame Simons
CJ
Norm Little
Simmons
Zeller Nance
 
I don’t think they need more picks. They need young talent.

they tried to trade SGA for Cade before the draft, so I’d assume that’s what they would look for. Blue chip player 21 or under + picks or players they can trade for picks (like nurk/roco)
 
Freshtown said:
I don’t think they need more picks. They need young talent.

they tried to trade SGA for Cade before the draft, so I’d assume that’s what they would look for. Blue chip player 21 or under + picks or players they can trade for picks (like nurk/roco)
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Well sure they'd like to get a high upside #1 overall pick. None are available, and their more likely than anyone to get the 2022 one themselves.

The Blazers 2026-2028 picks have as much high lotto pick potential as anything OKC can likely get. As others said; its similar to Harden and Paul George trade returns. SGA impact right now is a total waste on OKC so it makes sense to trade him for more future talent that is years away from contributing. That is the definition of a draft pick asset.
 
When I look at some of the trade proposals here, I can't help but think back on a little history. When the Bucks traded Jabbar, they got 2 young players and 2 FRPs.

SGA is worth 2 starters and 3 FRPs? And we are giving that up not for ourselves, but so Morey can save face on the Simmons situation. :banghead:
 
Scalma said:
Philly will get nothing and they will like it.
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It may be worse than that. They are going to have to take back a lot of salary to make a deal work...imagine if they get stuck taking an albatross contract like Love or Westbrick!
 
Buffalo Custard said:
It may be worse than that. They are going to have to take back a lot of salary to make a deal work...imagine if they get stuck taking an albatross contract like Love or Westbrick!
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their best bet may really be to try and convince Ben to rethink his trade request.
 
Read an interesting take on the situation. The gist of it is that Morey is still embarassed over the hosing he took in the Paul/Westbrick trade and he would rather weather the BS of the current situation than make another bad deal. For all his professed love of analytics, this is a situation where he is incapable of being objective.

Pride goeth before the fall. (insert your own pithey saying here :devilwink:)
 
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