Blazers and City agree to terms

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Natebishop3 said:
It's still minor league baseball. I have seen several different teams come through over the years. What's wrong with the stadium they just built not that long ago?
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Like I said, we are in a different affiliation, so standards change with each "promotion". Old ballpark is not up to code. So new one has to be built.
 
SlyPokerDog said:
This seems bad to me. This puts the cost of the Moda renovation on taxpayers. Looking at the lack of renovation to the Memorial Coliseum or even agreement on what to do with it, I don't trust the city to do shit with the Moda. Also, it's pretty much guaranteed that a billionaire will buy the Blazers, this trend of having taxpayers pay for arenas and stadiums for billionaires to house their team or they threaten to move is BS. The Blazers have a strong financial incentive to maintain and improve the Moda. Taking that away from them puts them in a position to demand a new taxpayer-funded arena under threat of moving.

"The term sheet for the new agreement, which I have viewed and which will be voted on by the City Council next week, lays out what the sides are calling a “public-private partnership” involving a transfer of the arena from the team to the city and a roadmap to keeping the Moda Center, which is the oldest NBA arena to never undergo a major renovation, viable as a long-term home for the Blazers."​
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If there is anything that will stop me from watching and supporting this team, this is it. If they pass off renovations/improvements to the tax payers and the billionaire owns cant fork it up. Fuck them. I mean seriously.... Fuck them. They will never get another cent from me and I will vote it down every time I have a chance.
 
SlyPokerDog said:
I agree with the NBA wouldn't want a "stable" Blazers leaving Portland. I have said this for years. But this takes away a huge part of that stability. The city has a horrible track record of owning the MC and developing the area around the Rose Quarter. The Blazers have done a fantastic job of maintaining and improving the Moda Center. But they had a direct financial incentive to do that. Now they won't. Now maintaining and improving the Moda Center falls on the city and taxpayers. Now the next owners of the Blazers can make huge demands under threat of leaving.

Just a few days ago I was pointing out that the situation in Portland with the Blazers is very different than the one in Seattle with the Sonics. This changes that.
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so what you are saying is, a few days go... you were wrong? LOL! :cheers:
 
Someone explain to me why a clause that 100% of money spent for improvements by the city would have to be reimbursed if the team were to be moved is a bad thing? That seems like a fail-safe for the city (tax payers) and a deterrent for any future owner to move the team.

 
SharpeScooterShooter said:
If there is anything that will stop me from watching and supporting this team, this is it. If they pass off renovations/improvements to the tax payers and the billionaire owns cant fork it up. Fuck them. I mean seriously.... Fuck them. They will never get another cent from me and I will vote it down every time I have a chance.
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I think public private partnerships are good. A revitalized Rose Quarter would bring jobs and tourism.
 
SharpeScooterShooter said:
If there is anything that will stop me from watching and supporting this team, this is it. If they pass off renovations/improvements to the tax payers and the billionaire owns cant fork it up. Fuck them. I mean seriously.... Fuck them. They will never get another cent from me and I will vote it down every time I have a chance.
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You don't live in Portland, do you? So I don't think you'll get to vote.

barfo
 
HailBlazers said:
I think public private partnerships are good. A revitalized Rose Quarter would bring jobs and tourism.
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Maybe I misread/misunderstood that. I thought it was the moda itself. Im down for revitalizing the area around it, its in dire need. I hope that also means reworking the roads around it. Possible even an elevated max station(which is a huge part of the traffic issues down there) so traffic can flow and the max can flow without waiting for each other.
 
Tince said:
Someone explain to me why a clause that 100% of money spent for improvements by the city would have to be reimbursed if the team were to be moved is a bad thing? That seems like a fail-safe for the city (tax payers) and a deterrent for any future owner to move the team.

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That is only important if the city (and taxpayers) already spent money on improving the arena, if I'm understanding that correctly. It's going to be a challenge to get the taxpayers to pay for renovations in the first place.

If a new owner arrives before renovations are agreed to/paid for, they can threaten to leave under the guise that the city isn't willing to develop the arena.
 
Why not have the city pay for a place for the rich hang out. Aren't they trying to make us pay for a place for the homeless to hang out?

:biglaugh:
 
BassPlaya said:
Why not have the city pay for a place for the rich hang out. Aren't they trying to make us pay for a place for the homeless to hang out?

:biglaugh:
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I dunno, they just spent $1 for a giant homeless shelter. Might not be budget now for you rich folks.

barfo
 
HailBlazers said:
I think public private partnerships are good. A revitalized Rose Quarter would bring jobs and tourism.
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It's been a great idea for the last 30 years. Paul Allen has bought the old Thunderbird hotel, He's been all for it. It's the city that hasn't done s*** and I don't see the city doing anything now. The area around the Moda has actually gotten worse in the last 30 years. Not better. Look at Lloyd center for example.
 
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B-Roy said:
That is only important if the city (and taxpayers) already spent money on improving the arena, if I'm understanding that correctly. It's going to be a challenge to get the taxpayers to pay for renovations in the first place.

If a new owner arrives before renovations are agreed to/paid for, they can threaten to leave under the guise that the city isn't willing to develop the arena.
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Isn't 50% of the parking revenue required to go to renovations/improvements?
 
Tince said:
I had no clue MLB PDX bumper stickers and swag were so lucrative that it could pay for some salaries and buy a golf course. I need to start selling bumper stickers!
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they haven't exactly bought it yet...
 
Tince said:
I had no clue MLB PDX bumper stickers and swag were so lucrative that it could pay for some salaries and buy a golf course. I need to start selling bumper stickers!
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Just spread a sliver of hope and you can sell a whole hell of a lot bumper stickers.

Do you have one on your Avalanche or something?
 
Tince said:
I'm saving room for my NFL to PDX bumper stickers.
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Raiders are due for another move in 3 years. They have a big following in Portland. Make a temporary stadium on Swan Island and play some football.
 
Whyachi said:
Raiders are due for another move in 3 years. They have a big following in Portland. Make a temporary stadium on Swan Island and play some football.
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I can't discuss the conversations I've had with potential ownership groups and franchises.
 
I might be able to really fool people into thinking I can bring NBA basketball back to Portland!
 
MickZagger said:
Just spread a sliver of hope and you can sell a whole hell of a lot bumper stickers.
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