Blazers interested in Aaron Gordon

Welcome to our community

Be a part of something great, join today!

Register Log in
I see a lot of ideas in here of Jones or Hood + Zach + Gary for Gordon. Well that trade works as far as the CBA goes but it's not going to work for this team because it puts us in the repeater tax... unless you've got another move up your sleeve that dumps a couple million. I really think that the move is Hoodie, Jones and Trent for Gordon and MCW. I'm pretty sure that leaves us with enough room under the tax apron to sign someone from the buyout market too, if we're a few hundred thousand away from getting a buy out player then we'd have to pick up a G League all star. If it took Zach to get the deal done they could have him and we can sign two buyout players.

I think the move is Jones, Gary, Zach and Hood (who the Magic would buyout) so maybe we add cash for Gordon and MCW (the Magic would have to trade Bacon or Clark to some team for a second rounder). We could then pick up a couple of buyout players to finish out our roster.

I really think Dame, CJ, RoCo, Gordon, Nurk, Melo, MCW, Enes, Nas, Ant, Giles, Blevins and two buyout players is a much better roster than what we have right now. This is all if Olshey is really high on Gordon, knows he's not going to re-sign Gary and is unsure about Zach's future like anyone should be.
 
damianlillard said:
Don’t look now but Aaron Gordon has been shooting 41.1% from 3 point land this year. But he’s just as streaky as a shooter as RoCo is. He definitely better than DJJ. His passing would unlock the potential of Little and DJJ if we can keep him.
Click to expand...
He a 32% career three point shooter. RoCo is 36%.
 
Hoopguru said:
Ig Gordon was so damn good why hasn't he helped Orlando be a factor in the east? They have a bunch of high draft picks and veterans.
Click to expand...

That might be a slippery slope. Dame/CJ haven't exactly made the Blazers a factor in the West.
 
Hoopguru said:
He a 32% career three point shooter. RoCo is 36%.
Click to expand...
Did you miss the "this year" part of what you were responding to? You also have to think that he's doing that as the number one guy that other teams game plan for. Wait... this is hilarious. Not that 1% is a big deal on RoCo's numbers but you gave RoCo's three point percentage from this season (which is higher than his career) and Gordon's career (which is far lower than this season). That's some political spin.
 
blazerkor said:
Did you miss the "this year" part of what you were responding to? You also have to think that he's doing that as the number one guy that other teams game plan for. Wait... this is hilarious. Not that 1% is a big deal on RoCo's numbers but you gave RoCo's three point percentage from this season (which is higher than his career) and Gordon's career (which is far lower than this season). That's some political spin.
Click to expand...
RoCos career 3% is 36%., which happens to be what is is now shooting this year.
I was comparing 3point careers performance as one criteria.
The guy isn't whom I'd want for a big trade. To injury prone.
 
UKRAINEFAN said:
Nobody is offering CJ.
Click to expand...

Not now, not every, no matter what. Olshey is bound and determined to make a small, non-defensive backcourt work. Of course it would be the first time in the history of the NBA, but no worries. We got this.
 
TBpup said:
That might be a slippery slope. Dame/CJ haven't exactly made the Blazers a factor in the West.
Click to expand...
The East sucks.
We constantly are in the playoffs.
They constantly miss the playoffs. In the sucky East.
Dame and CJ have been in the WCF. How far has Aaron Gordon been?
Not really a slippery slope at all.
 
JoshuaHall said:
The East sucks.
We constantly are in the playoffs.
They constantly miss the playoffs. In the sucky East.
Dame and CJ have been in the WCF. How far has Aaron Gordon been?
Not really a slippery slope at all.
Click to expand...
No it's just a great example of bad sports math. "If this guy did this and that guy didn't, then this guy must be better than that." Come on man. There are so many different variables at play here. The fact is you are literally comparing a duo of players to a single player. You are only sighting where teammates were drafted and how long they've been in the league. The only actual determining factors you are referencing are the conferences they play in and if they make the playoffs. Those two things don't determine anything. If someone was saying Gordon should win the MVP then the factors you are pointing out would have some bearing but no one is saying that. So what you're saying isn't a slippery slope, it has no logical merit.
 
julius said:
Well, that 1st round pick might be a bit difficult to do for Portland.
Click to expand...
Not really, we would just call the Rockets ask them if it's cool if we leave this year's pick unprotected and then send over 2023 first rounder. I think DJ is a good young player. So Hood, DJ and 2023 first rounder. I don't think that would be too much if Olshey really is high on Gordon. If they wanted Ant too then Olshey should probably go for it... especially if Olshey is crazy enough to think he's keeping Dame, CJ and Gary for next season.
 
AmirIcon said:
Probably. But I think they're closer than we might think. Here's hoping.
Click to expand...
No point in pursuing John Collins. He wants a max deal which is why Atlanta is punting. Portland would have to be crazy to hand out another max deal to another non-all star, with CJ already on the books. Don’t get me wrong, I like John Collins the player, just not the potential price tag to keep him beyond this year.
 
blazerkor said:
No it's just a great example of bad sports math. "If this guy did this and that guy didn't, then this guy must be better than that." Come on man. There are so many different variables at play here. The fact is you are literally comparing a duo of players to a single player. You are only sighting where teammates were drafted and how long they've been in the league. The only actual determining factors you are referencing are the conferences they play in and if they make the playoffs. Those two things don't determine anything. If someone was saying Gordon should win the MVP then the factors you are pointing out would have some bearing but no one is saying that. So what you're saying isn't a slippery slope, it has no logical merit.
Click to expand...
I wasn’t comparing anyone. I was not the OP.

Additionally, I was not the one who said “CJ/Dame haven’t exactly made the Blazers a factor” in response to a comment about Aaron Gordon. So take up your issue with TBpup, since those were that persons words. They compared CJ/Dame to AG and The Magic, not I.

I responded to that comment.

your response makes no sense.
 
I'd wonder if the stories about Orlando "driving a hard bargain" is just negotiating 101. They could be trolling the water to gauge interest. Asking price 5 days before the deadline could be a lot different 5 hours before the deadline. So could offers for that matter

and the part about Orlando wanting a young player and a pick was reported 3 days ago. The way twitter and the blogosphere seem to work is one rumor gets regurgitated 50 times and it makes it look like there's more to it than there is
 
My thought is that a year ago if Blazer fans had been given the choice between getting Gordon or getting RoCo, they’d have been about evenly divided as to which to go for. I’m not sure Gordon is enough of a needle mover to be worth disrupting the roster mid season.
 
wizenheimer said:
I'd wonder if the stories about Orlando "driving a hard bargain" is just negotiating 101. They could be trolling the water to gauge interest. Asking price 5 days before the deadline could be a lot different 5 hours before the deadline. So could offers for that matter

and the part about Orlando wanting a young player and a pick was reported 3 days ago. The way twitter and the blogosphere seem to work is one rumor gets regurgitated 50 times and it makes it look like there's more to it than there is
Click to expand...
Considering that it feels like we've heard Gordon's name in the rumors for 3 straight years, and hes still in Orlando.... it seems plausible that Magic are asking for the moon
 
tester551 said:
Considering that it feels like we've heard Gordon's name in the rumors for 3 straight years, and hes still in Orlando.... it seems plausible that Magic are asking for the moon
Click to expand...

We've heard Carmelo for a long time and it happened. Maybe we need just 400 pages more.
 
Brian Windhorst was just on SportsCenter and the first thing he had to say was that we are the team that is pursuing Aaron Gordon the most. That is what he led with and then mentioned one other team pursuing someone else. He did say that he didn't know if we had the young assets to get the deal done but then he repeated that from what he is hearing we are very determined because the team thinks that Gordon is the perfect player to help Dame make teams pay for the double teams or something like that.
 
Hood/Collins/Trent for Gordon.

That's 18.1 mil in, and 17.1 mil out. Puts us about 500k into the tax.

That might be a sticking point with Jody as it would make our repeater number excessive for next year. We'd then have to attach a future protected second round pick or something with Giles for example (1.6 mil) to another team in exchange for player making less. We did this with Noah Vonleh in the past, or even Skal for Caleb a few yrs ago. It's not completely unfathomable-- just requires some creativity.

Also having some room at the end for the buyout market might also require some foresight. Guess that's why Neil gets paid the big bucks
 
illmatic99 said:
Hood/Collins/Trent for Gordon.

That's 18.1 mil in, and 17.1 mil out. Puts us about 500k into the tax.

That might be a sticking point with Jody as it would make our repeater number excessive for next year. We'd then have to attach a future protected second round pick or something with Giles for example (1.6 mil) to another team in exchange for player making less. We did this with Noah Vonleh in the past, or even Skal for Caleb a few yrs ago. It's not completely unfathomable-- just requires some creativity.

Also having some room at the end for the buyout market might also require some foresight. Guess that's why Neil gets paid the big bucks
Click to expand...
I’d do it right now
 
ehizzy3 said:
I’d do it right now
Click to expand...
So Hood/Collins/Simons for Gordon actually keeps us about 200k below the tax line. I'd rather trade Trent than Simons, but using Ant makes this a bit more simple.

Think we still need to be players in the buyout market, so it's important for us to do some manipulation with our 13-15th spots
 
illmatic99 said:
So Hood/Collins/Simons for Gordon actually keeps us about 200k below the tax line. I'd rather trade Trent than Simons, but using Ant makes this a bit more simple.

Think we still need to be players in the buyout market, so it's important for us to do some manipulation with our 13-15th spots
Click to expand...

Agreed with rather sending out Trent than Simons. I wonder if there's a possibility to send Trent somewhere for a first rounder and very cheap player coming back, then pass along the first rounder to Orlando? I'm just not sure where he would fit well (and both sides would want to commit to the point of giving up something now).

Doing that, then sending the pick to Orlando along with Simons/Hood/Collins seems like the move, but we would have to have a plan in place to fix the backcourt ASAP.

All of this becomes much easier if Jones is included instead of Collins, and his contract considerations line up better as well (i.e., he'll probably opt out this summer anyways) but I think he'd be so much better getting to guard perimeter players with Gordon here (and thriving off of Gordon's passing), it'd suck to lose him.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.

Users who are viewing this thread

Total: 1 (members: 0, guests: 1)
Back
Top