Blazers trade the #7 pick for.....?

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The Blazers trade #7 for?

  • Multiple picks - keep one, trade one for Grant

  • Multiple picks - keep one, trade one for Collins

  • Down to #11 and get Randle

  • Down to #17 and get Wood

  • Include #7 with Nurk (S&T) for Ayton

  • OG Anunoby

  • Plus other assets to move up

  • Other - please specify

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Nurkic and #7 to PHX for Ayton

Buck’s #1 (2025) our #36 and Keon to ATL for Collins

And some scheme to get Grant
 
BoomChakaLaka said:
Nurkic and #7 to PHX for Ayton

Buck’s #1 (2025) our #36 and Keon to ATL for Collins

And some scheme to get Grant
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The Suns don't plan on resigning him. Why would se give them #7 when he's already out the door? Poor negotiation. They'll take Nurk because he's cheaper.

That's not enough for Collins.
 
1 Eye Jack said:
While I understand needing a veteran like Grant I’m just not sure he’s worth the upside of a young guy who can do a lot of same things at much cheaper price while not sacrificing the future.

Hoping we get a bidding war for #7 and get something better. Personally if we are trading #7 I’d rather have Collins
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It's not worth it unless we get 2 of Collins, Grant, Randle, OG (or 2 other players of this or better caliber who can balance the roster).

But yeah, just trading 7 for Grant would be a mistake, IMO.

If you can't swing that just pick the best player available.
 
BoomChakaLaka said:
Nurkic and #7 to PHX for Ayton

Buck’s #1 (2025) our #36 and Keon to ATL for Collins

And some scheme to get Grant
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I don't think the salaries work to get Ayton and anybody else.

In fact, I think we might have to give up Simons as well...
 
Driew said:
With the draft around the corner this new Netflix movie, Hustle, with Adam Sandler is really good. Shows how much of a pain being a scout can be for a person in the NBA.
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A quote from early in the first show. The owner's son really likes a prospect from Germany, but Sandler's character, Stanley Sugarman, says there are some red flags about the player's work ethic. Also, the teams wins more when that guy doesn't play.

Owners son - "Listen Dad, he's a 19-year-old seven footer with a 35 foot range and a guard's handle. I see him in another team's jersey I'm gonna goddam kill someone."
Sugarman shrugs his shoulders in resignation.
"Cool."
 
WesleyMatthews said:
Why do you believe it's starting to look like this?

Are you saying so because a bunch of Blazers fans are proposing such?

The actual value Cronin gets could be very different. From the value he got at the deadline I'm not optimistic he's adding multiple high level valuable starters here.
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I've heard a lot of Knicks fans, podcasters, etc say they'd be excited to give up Randle and #11 for #7. Detroit also seems like they'd love to get #11 for Grant.

We feel like #7 is too much to give up for Grant, but if we could get Randle and Grant for the #7 and 2 expirings I think that makes everybody happy.

And we'd have the best team we've had since Wes went down. In fact, I think we'd be better than that team by quite a lot.
 
blazerfan11 said:
A quote from early in the first show. The owner's son really likes a prospect from Germany, but Sandler's character, Stanley Sugarman, says there are some red flags about the player's work ethic. Also, the teams wins more when that guy doesn't play.

Owners son - "Listen Dad, he's a 19-year-old seven footer with a 35 foot range and a guard's handle. I see him in another team's jersey I'm gonna goddam kill someone."
Sugarman shrugs his shoulders in resignation.
"Cool."
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Just watched it. It was good.
 
Every scout I hear from says Sharpe is the real deal - an Anthony Edwards type with a jumper. I think teams bitching about not taking him because he refuses to workout is all smokescreen.

If he's there for Portland, you absolutely draft and keep him. Hart can play some 3.
 
Fischer brought up the idea of Portland trading down to 12 while picking up a future first or other assets from OKC. This would be with the idea of 12 being moved for a player like OG/Collins/Grant.

He said he hasn't heard that specifically but it's his own speculation after other convos.
 
illmatic99 said:
Fischer brought up the idea of Portland trading down to 12 while picking up a future first or other assets from OKC. This would be with the idea of 12 being moved for a player like OG/Collins/Grant.

He said he hasn't heard that specifically but it's his own speculation after other convos.
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Moving down has been mentioned many times with a few teams
7 for Char's 13 and 15 and maybe a bit more
7 for San Anton's 9 and 20 or 25
7 for OKC's 12 and another pick or Dort or someone else?
 
illmatic99 said:
KOC:

"League sources say the Hawks are looking to add a lottery pick either by outright trading John Collins or also including this selection (#16). One of the teams they’ve had talks with is Portland. "

https://nbadraft.theringer.com/mock-draft
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Collins + 16 for 7th seems to be a fair trade. But we would have to trade Bledsoe and I'm not sure the Hawks would want to eat Bledsoe's guaranteed salary.
 
B-Roy said:
Collins + 16 for 7th seems to be a fair trade. But we would have to trade Bledsoe and I'm not sure the Hawks would want to eat Bledsoe's guaranteed salary.
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I'd throw in Keon as incentive. Or our 2nd. I like the idea of drafting a potential star better than Collins at 7, but if he comes with 16, that's a value play that we would have to weigh strongly.

And besides, the likelihood of #7 turning into a star are not great.

This would be the safe play... in a lot of senses, but I'd be OK with this.
 
B-Roy said:
Collins + 16 for 7th seems to be a fair trade. But we would have to trade Bledsoe and I'm not sure the Hawks would want to eat Bledsoe's guaranteed salary.
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Portland could take back Gallo (5M guaranteed) into their medium TPE. That would save the Hawks some money. For Blazers, it adds 1.1M in salary which would be more than offset by the rookie scale difference between 7 and 16
 
illmatic99 said:
I'd throw in Keon as incentive. Or our 2nd. I like the idea of drafting a potential star better than Collins at 7, but if he comes with 16, that's a value play that we would have to weigh strongly.

And besides, the likelihood of #7 turning into a star are not great.

This would be the safe play... in a lot of senses, but I'd be OK with this.
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I'm honestly very close to the "trade Dame" camp. I have almost 0 trust in the current management.
 
get john collins if you can, as i dont think any drafted player will be able to contribute from the get go, which would be needed

dame-ant-little-collins-nurk with hart being 6th man and allong with coach billups, we could enjoy it
 
Mr. Robot said:
get john collins if you can, as i dont think any drafted player will be able to contribute from the get go, which would be needed

dame-ant-little-collins-nurk with hart being 6th man and allong with coach billups, we could enjoy it
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Needed for what?
 
illmatic99 said:
Fischer brought up the idea of Portland trading down to 12 while picking up a future first or other assets from OKC. This would be with the idea of 12 being moved for a player like OG/Collins/Grant.

He said he hasn't heard that specifically but it's his own speculation after other convos.
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OKC has #2/12/30/34 this year.
....as many as 6 in 2023 (up to 4 1sts and 2 2nds)

There is no way they can Draft all of these players along with all the young players they already have on their roster.
 
He’s a bit of a project but not keeping the 7/Duren is going to be a mistake.

Appeasing Dame is putting a band-aid on a bullet wound. We need a rebuild and Dame has nobody to blame other than Neil and Bert.
 
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