Blazers trade the #7 pick for.....?

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The Blazers trade #7 for?

  • Multiple picks - keep one, trade one for Grant

  • Multiple picks - keep one, trade one for Collins

  • Down to #11 and get Randle

  • Down to #17 and get Wood

  • Include #7 with Nurk (S&T) for Ayton

  • OG Anunoby

  • Plus other assets to move up

  • Other - please specify

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blazerkor said:
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Obviously this would be two trades. The first one with the Knicks on draft night and the second with the Raptors when free agency begins. In this scenario we would draft Duren at 11. If we had to we could do what it would take to take the conditions off of the pick we owe Chicago and use a future draft pick or two of ours to make this work. We would have to sign a good backup C (Damian Jones) with the TPMLE and we'd probably want a vet min PG but whoever that is wouldn't be part of our regular rotation.

I personally don't think we're 7 steps away from contending. A rotation of Dame, Ant, OG, Randle, Duren, Hart, Nas, Justise and Jones with meaningful spot minutes from Keon and Trendon would be a team that could contend.
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Toronto says no and this is extremely unrealistic. If Nurkic doesn't want to go to Toronto or Toronto doesn't value him for OG (likely), then we're stuck with Randle who's a terrible fit and have done nothing to add a point of attack defender.
 
BonesJones said:
Toronto says no and this is extremely unrealistic. If Nurkic doesn't want to go to Toronto or Toronto doesn't value him for OG (likely), then we're stuck with Randle who's a terrible fit and have done nothing to add a point of attack defender.
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OK, so OG for two first round draft picks or more (because I allotted for more) and Nurk is unrealistic. First of all the only thing that Toronto really needs right now is a true big and secondly how many fucking picks do you think they can get for OG?
 
Natebishop3 said:
100%

How can anyone watch Boston and GSW and think, "we're only a piece or two away from that."

This is why I keep pushing to trade Dame. I love the guy. I really do. He's my favorite player ever. But the chances of us putting together a top 4 team, let alone a true contender, while he's still in his prime is next to zero. So we should be looking to get some value out of him and start the rebuild. We're just wasting time.
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Funnily enough, compared to other NBA Finals I don't think this one was all that impressive in terms of the quality of play. Dame is healthy for the first time in his prime. Simons has shown legitimate star potential. If Dame/CJ/Aminu/Harkless/Kanter can make the WCF, I want to see what a healthy Dame, Simons, Nurkic, Hart, and whatever we get with our 7th pick can do.
 
blazerkor said:
OK, so OG for two first round draft picks or more (because I allotted for more) and Nurk is unrealistic. First of all the only thing that Toronto really needs right now is a true big and secondly how many fucking picks do you think they can get for OG?
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I don't know how many fucking picks they can get, but in terms of first round picks, I don't think that's what they're looking for. I think they keep OG or trade him for a similar caliber big or better. Plus, it's very likely that the Blazers and Nurkic have a handshake agreement in place which is why Nurkic sat out the final two months of a contract year.
 
BonesJones said:
I don't know how many fucking picks they can get, but in terms of first round picks, I don't think that's what they're looking for. I think they keep OG or trade him for a similar caliber big or better. Plus, it's very likely that the Blazers and Nurkic have a handshake agreement in place which is why Nurkic sat out the final two months of a contract year.
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Honestly, Atlanta and Toronto should just trade OG for Collins. Toronto can have Collins play a stretch 5 (he's better defensively as a run protector anyway), and Atlanta can run out an OG/Hunter/Capela frontcourt.
 
BonesJones said:
Funnily enough, compared to other NBA Finals I don't think this one was all that impressive in terms of the quality of play. Dame is healthy for the first time in his prime. Simons has shown legitimate star potential. If Dame/CJ/Aminu/Harkless/Kanter can make the WCF, I want to see what a healthy Dame, Simons, Nurkic, Hart, and whatever we get with our 7th pick can do.
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As has been said before, the Blake Griffin and Chris Paul injuries are the worst thing to happen to this franchise
 
perkinsfor3 said:
I'm a HUGE OG fan. But I've also been seeing glimpses from Nassir which have me hoping he has some similar upside.
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It's even clearer hen you compare year 3 OG vs year 3 Nassir.

OG. 29,9 minutes, 10,6 pts, 5,3 rebs, 1,4 stl, 0,7 blk.
Nas. 25,9 minutes, 9,8 pts, 5,6 rebs, 0,6 stl, 0,9 blk.

And Nassir is 1 year younger than OG. That doesn't mean they are the same players and that Nas will have the same defensive impact as OG. But this hope is not irrational.
 
BonesJones said:
Funnily enough, compared to other NBA Finals I don't think this one was all that impressive in terms of the quality of play. Dame is healthy for the first time in his prime. Simons has shown legitimate star potential. If Dame/CJ/Aminu/Harkless/Kanter can make the WCF, I want to see what a healthy Dame, Simons, Nurkic, Hart, and whatever we get with our 7th pick can do.
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We would still lose to the warriors in a 7 game series lol
 
Mediocre Man said:
As has been said before, the Blake Griffin and Chris Paul injuries are the worst thing to happen to this franchise
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Those are different playoffs; the WCF team beat the Thunder and Nuggets.

Now if your point is the clippers series lead to overpaying 2016 free agents then fine I agree. But that has nothing to do with the post you replied to.
 
blazerkor said:
OK, so OG for two first round draft picks or more (because I allotted for more) and Nurk is unrealistic. First of all the only thing that Toronto really needs right now is a true big and secondly how many fucking picks do you think they can get for OG?
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Bones point still stands of being stuck with Randle as the key addition to the roster. The Blazers cant do the NY trade at the draft with expectations the roster later gets completed with a follow up free agent sign and trade returning a needed complimentary starter.

Nurkic is a free agent; so he can't be traded away at the draft.
 
The OP needs to eliminate one of the options in the poll that reads "Include #7 with Nurk (S&T) for Ayton"

Nurkic is a free agent; so he can't be traded away at the draft.

Additionally;

Ayton is a free agent; so he can't be traded away at the draft.
 
BonesJones said:
Toronto says no and this is extremely unrealistic. If Nurkic doesn't want to go to Toronto or Toronto doesn't value him for OG (likely), then we're stuck with Randle who's a terrible fit and have done nothing to add a point of attack defender.
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How is Randle a terrible fit? A guy who can attack the rack like that with Dame seems like he would be a dream...
 
WesleyMatthews said:
The OP needs to eliminate one of the options in the poll that reads "Include #7 with Nurk (S&T) for Ayton"

Nurkic is a free agent; so he can't be traded away at the draft.

Additionally;

Ayton is a free agent; so he can't be traded away at the draft.
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Is it really that tough to conceive that he meant "the player drafted at #7" rather than the pick itself?
 
PtldPlatypus said:
Is it really that tough to conceive that he meant "the player drafted at #7" rather than the pick itself?
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The issue with that is Phoenix would have to randomly value the same player that we do at 7. Deals like that basically never happen because of the obvious tampering in drafting for a team and talking sign and trade during the draft.
 
KOC: https://nbadraft.theringer.com/mock-draft/

The Trail Blazers have been fielding offers for this pick from a number of teams, according to sources. There’s a distinct possibility they will move it. Whether they hold on to it or not, Sharpe is a potential target here as an explosive scorer who is comfortable using an array of moves to get into his stepback 3-pointer. Though he’s raw as a playmaker, Damian Lillard or Anfernee Simons would be running the show in Portland. Putting in a more consistent effort on defense will be a big key to success for Sharpe. But he has shown enough flashes of grit and unselfishness to make it clear he has the qualities of a potential star.
 
RR7 said:
The issue with that is Phoenix would have to randomly value the same player that we do at 7. Deals like that basically never happen because of the obvious tampering in drafting for a team and talking sign and trade during the draft.
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Or we just ask them who they want us to take and we take them.
 
RR7 said:
The issue with that is Phoenix would have to randomly value the same player that we do at 7. Deals like that basically never happen because of the obvious tampering in drafting for a team and talking sign and trade during the draft.
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Or we would have to inquire of Phoenix who they'd want at that spot and then say "yeah, even if the deal doesn't happen, we're good with this guy".

Yes, unlikely, but not impossible
 
illmatic99 said:
KOC: https://nbadraft.theringer.com/mock-draft/

The Trail Blazers have been fielding offers for this pick from a number of teams, according to sources. There’s a distinct possibility they will move it. Whether they hold on to it or not, Sharpe is a potential target here as an explosive scorer who is comfortable using an array of moves to get into his stepback 3-pointer. Though he’s raw as a playmaker, Damian Lillard or Anfernee Simons would be running the show in Portland. Putting in a more consistent effort on defense will be a big key to success for Sharpe. But he has shown enough flashes of grit and unselfishness to make it clear he has the qualities of a potential star.
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If we're trading the pick it's going to happen on the day while we're on the clock. Once other teams know which players are actually available, we'll be able to squeeze a bit more value from teams that are targeting a specific player that is there at 7.

But I also feel like trading it pre-maturely would be such a Cronin thing to do....
 
B-Roy said:
If we're trading the pick it's going to happen on the day while we're on the clock. Once other teams know which players are actually available, we'll be able to squeeze a bit more value from teams that are targeting a specific player that is there at 7.

But I also feel like trading it pre-maturely would be such a Cronin thing to do....
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Trading it prematurely would only really be the way to go if it's a stepping-stone move to setup another one. Case in point -- if we really are trying to get up to 2 or 3 to get Paulo -- moving up to, say 5, ahead of time would be beneficial.

I suppose another benefit could be -- and we're so close now that this is just mostly theoretical -- getting a player to shutdown workouts with a promise (but a promise at, like, 11 or 15, or wherever we're trading back to, not 7...)

But yes, beyond those, makes no sense to make a move until we know what the final offers look like compared to the draft opportunities...
 
If OKC somehow shakes it up and takes Ivey 2 (who honestly would be a great fit for them), I want us to get up to 4 and hope and pray Houston takes Chet allowing Paolo to drop.

I asked Fischer yesterday if there was any likelihood of Portland moving up in the draft and he shut it down pretty quickly. But if Paolo or even Chet (meh) drops, I want us to at least explore that option. 7+ Mil pick + Hart for 4 would be sweet.
 
B-Roy said:
If we're trading the pick it's going to happen on the day while we're on the clock. Once other teams know which players are actually available, we'll be able to squeeze a bit more value from teams that are targeting a specific player that is there at 7.

But I also feel like trading it pre-maturely would be such a Cronin thing to do....
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We have to wait until the player is picked to move it, unless it's a trade down.
 
AmirIcon said:
Would much rather trade 7 and change for the rights to Paolo than to trade it for an established vet who has a much lower ceiling.
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Yes, if there's any way to trade for Paolo, it's an imperative. I just don't see it happening.
 
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