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Rz4k said:
Idk, you good for it?

Also need to see how serious this apparent Splitter injury is; although he's been huge for the Spurs the past few years, he's also one of the softest players in the league and can miss weeks at a time for minor injuries. If its his calf then it could be months.
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Mags is good for it.

Very good for it.
 
bsped said:
Since 2008, Blazers are 14-7 against the Spurs. But no matter what happens, I have way more respect for the Spurs than the ESPN manufactured Thunder. I'm glad to see the Blazers at least get a chance to a fair series in the second round. If they were playing the Thunder or Clippers, I would not even want to watch the series (it would be equivalent to the Raptors vs Nets series).
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So you won't watch if we make it to the WCF??
 
Rz4k said:
For the record, nobody stops true top players, but you can slow them. Splitter won't shut down LA, but he'll make him work for his buckets more than Howard or Asik did away from the basket.
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Weird didn't you say this

I like Lillard and think he'll be the best PG league-wide in a few years (maybe even next year) but Green can and prolly will shut him down.
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So are you saying Lillard isn't a "true top player"?

That's funny he's been the best PG in the entire playoffs so far.
 
RoyToy said:
What gets Aldridge is playing against tough bigs that can push him out near the 3pt line. Asik was good at this because he's a big strong fucker that is hard to move.

I think Aldridge will have an easier time setting up against Splitter compared to Asik.
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Splitter doesn't give up position tho, so LA won't be able to back him down easily or at all. He's also pretty solid at bodying up jumpshooters and making them try to shoot over him.
 
Rz4k said:
Splitter doesn't give up position tho, so LA won't be able to back him down easily or at all. He's also pretty solid at bodying up jumpshooters and making them try to shoot over him.
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I don't think you watched the Houston series at all then. Asik was all over Aldridge, same with Howarf, yet Aldridge shot over them with ease. I don't get you man, you go back and forth with your takes and none of it makes sense.
 
magnifier661 said:
Weird didn't you say this



So are you saying Lillard isn't a "true top player"?

That's funny he's been the best PG in the entire playoffs so far.
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Patrick Beverly was giving him trouble in the first round, and Lin was later on as well. Green is a much better defender than either. Also, I don't consider him a true top player. Yes, he's very clutch and doesn't shy away from the big moments, but a 4/16 shooting night for him isn't rare.

For the record, I consider top players to be Lebron/KD/Griffin/Anthony Davis/LA/Kevin Love (sometimes). These are generally bigmen/wings. I don't consider any PGs/smallish SGs to be unstoppable. A reputable Suns poster on ST has a theory that has yet to be disproven, which is that PG-led teams will never win a championship (without a historic defense to back them up); I agree with him. Luckily for you guys LA is your best player.
 
magnifier661 said:
I don't think you watched the Houston series at all then. Asik was all over Aldridge, same with Howarf, yet Aldridge shot over them with ease. I don't get you man, you go back and forth with your takes and none of it makes sense.
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If LA plays like he did in the first two games, no one will be able to slow him down; he was making tough shot after tough shot in what was arguably the greatest offensive performance of the modern era. By the time the series shifted to Portland, he cooled off a bit and Asik/Howard were able to make him work. I'm thinking Splitter will be better than either not only due to forcing him to take tough shots as well, but to cut off the LA/lillard PnR Portland loves to use, forcing his drives to be directed towards Duncan (while nowhere near as mobile, he's still an elite post player and rim protector), and by causing LA to turn it over at a decent enough rate. Asik and Howard are good defenders one-on-one and even in the PnR (Asik is meh), but neither are all that smart or skilled with their body positioning/footwork/hands as Splitter.
 
Rz4k said:
Splitter > Lopez for whoever said the C matchup will be to their favor; Spurs get swept by Dallas without his D on Dirk, and I think he'll give Aldridge fits as well. Although he's listed as our starting C, Splitter plays PF on D. However, LA will annihilate whatever Duncan/Splitter combined provide on offense anyway.
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Sooo he'll give Aldridge fits like in that Saturday afternoon loss y'all took when Splitter scored 0 points on 0-2 shooting, 4 rebs, had a turnover and 2 fouls while playing a measly 18 minutes? All the while LMA's line was 24 pts on 11-17 shooting , 7 Rebs, 4 Ast, 1 steal and 2 blocks??

http://espn.go.com/nba/boxscore?gameId=400488912
 
dviss1 said:
Sooo he'll give Aldridge fits like in that Saturday afternoon loss y'all took when Splitter scored 0 points on 0-2 shooting, 4 rebs, had a turnover and 2 fouls while playing a measly 18 minutes? All the while LMA's line was 24 pts on 11-17 shooting , 7 Rebs, 4 Ast, 1 steal and 2 blocks??

http://espn.go.com/nba/boxscore?gameId=400488912
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Third game of the regular season? Really? Home opener for the Blazers as well.

Anyway, at that time Splitter was playing soft and just wasn't being a factor. A good number of Spurs were still bitching at how much the Spurs' FO gave him after how bad he was in the Finals. Since he came back from his injury in January though, he's played much much better on both sides of the ball. Still soft as hell at times, but its hard to deny how much better the Spurs are defensively with him on the court (best defensive on/off metrics out of any Spur on the team by a good amount, including Duncan). He's also one of the best defenders statistically in the NBA this year.
 
Who is this rz4k guy? Some funny posts today man...
 
dviss1 said:
Some Spurs fan who doesn't seem to know that Tony Parker gets LIT UP by Dame. Check the stats homie.
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In the regular season which means jack shit, especially considering the bulk of containing Lillard will go to Green/Leonard.
 
Rz4k said:
In the regular season which means jack shit, especially considering the bulk of containing Lillard will go to Green/Leonard.
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He's gonna light them up too. Watch. They haven't been able to guard him either.
 
Clownzano thinks the spurs will win the series. He said he " I won't be a fence sitter, won't be a homer. I have to bet with my reputation."

So canzano that will be $0 on the spurs correct?
 
Could be a turning of the guard kind of Series. Similar to the one in 99 When the Blazers defeated the Jazz.

Tim Duncan handing the keys over LA. Parker to Dame. Manu to Nico. Popps to Stotts

But I think they will have their work cut out for them.
 
So Splitter is soft, but somehow he's going to defend the best low post player in the league much better than two elite defensive centers? Apparently Splitter became the best defender in basketball.

This'll be fun to watch.
 
The Blazers offense is going to roll. It was elite all year long and matches up fine against the Spurs personnel.

This series is going to come down to Spurs offense vs Blazers defense. If Tony Parker is collapsing our defense and getting open looks for himself or teammates we are in trouble. If Batum can slow him down we'll be big favorites to win.
 
We lost two games to them this year with Dorell Wright as our starting power forward.

I'm really not that worried.
 
Natebishop3 said:
We lost two games to them this year with Dorell Wright as our starting power forward.

I'm really not that worried.
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I'm worried that you are putting stock in the regular season at this point. You said it yourself, injuries were a factor in the series...for both teams. Besides didn't we learn last round that regular season records don't mean shit now? :)
 
Fonzthecpt1 said:
I'm worried that you are putting stock in the regular season at this point. You said it yourself, injuries were a factor in the series...for both teams. Besides didn't we learn last round that regular season records don't mean shit now? :)
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Regular season absolutely means something. It's not like we did poorly against the Rockets in the regular season and then came out and whipped their ass. It was a fucking war. It could have easily gone either way in every single game.

If one team has another team's number, it generally holds serve in the playoffs.
 
going to be replying to several of your posts.

Rz4k said:
Aight, we'll agree to disagree. As I said, Lopez will be guarded by Duncan most of this series, and one-on-one in the post Duncan is a far better defender than Howard (lengthier too).
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Lopez is a big body. Rarely does he get any plays whatsoever called for him. His job is to play post defense, and rebound. So one on one in the post against Duncan is a moot point. The only time Lopez received the ball against the rockets is when McHale tried to defend him with James Harden.
Which was just idiotic coaching with how well Lopez finishes when he has time to for lack of a better word.. "aim" his shot.
If your trying to point out Duncan will keep Lopez off the glass. I will have to disagree. Howard is still the best Center in the league. He showed that in the playoffs, he's still super athletic for a 6"11 player. He gave Lopez fits, however Lopez clearly got into his head(all the elbows that were thrown) with the size of him. I see the spurs trying to get Lopez out of the game by forcing small ball. If the Blazers are allowed to stay "big" with Lopez in the game. The Blazers have the clear advantage.
I respect Duncan so much. Love his game, how he beats people with his basketball IQ. Don't underestimate Lopez's basketball IQ though. Lopez isn't Blake Griffin...

Rz4k said:
Yes, he's the best combination of length, strength, and size the Spurs can throw at him. Diaw, Duncan, and even Leonard will see some looks, but Splitter will get the majority of that duty.
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Would be a huge mistake for GP to put Leonard on Aldridge. Aldridge showed he will dominate smaller players, no matter how athletic they are.
If they are going to double Aldridge putting the smaller Leonard on him will let Aldridge see over the top, and while not the best passer. He showed last series he can hit people when there is a smaller player on him.

Rz4k said:
I like Lillard and think he'll be the best PG league-wide in a few years (maybe even next year) but Green can and prolly will shut him down.
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danny green played well against the heat last year, both offensively and defensively, and Danny green will see some time against Lillard. However it won't be the majority of the time. Due to Wesley/Batum showed when there was a smaller defender on them. they'd take him into the post. Parker has to guard someone. If the spurs want to stop the Blazers wings from posting they will have to do it with their bigger defenders or come with help.
Also Lillard is shooting 45% from deep in the playoffs. I don't see that stays at 45% but it's not because of the defense from any of the Spurs defenders. It's from having to chase parker around through the multiple P&R parker gets on every possession.
If anything it's that, that slows Lillard down. Not the defense the spurs throw @ him.
 
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Rz4k said:
Asik and Splitter are actually pretty similar, but Splitter is more mobile while Asik is a better rim protector/rebounder. Splitter is much better offensively though; he's an elite PnR player on both ends of the ball tbh.
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Lol are you his mother or something? Nothing about Tiago Splitter is "elite," and certainly nothing on the offensive end. Lmao.
 
Buffalo Blazer said:
Lol are you his mother or something? Nothing about Tiago Splitter is "elite," and certainly nothing on the offensive end. Lmao.
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I can see where he is coming from. He did play big for the Spurs against the mavs.. But considering the mavs have basically no one to guard him when putting Dalembert on Duncan...
But here are his game by game stats.
Game 1 - 30:25 minutes played 8 points 11 rebounds 2 TO 2 steals.
Game 2 - 27:32 minutes played 6 points 5 rebounds 2 TO 3 assists.
Game 3 - 28:35 minutes played 14 points 13 rebounds 3 assists 0 TO
Game 4 - 25:22 minutes played 10 points 12 rebounds 6 fouls 1 TO
Game 5 - 32:11 minutes played 17 points 12 rebounds 5 assists 5 fouls 1 TO
Game 6 - 32:43 minutes played 19 points 8 rebounds 2 assists 2 steals 0 TO
Game 7 - 15:15 minutes played 1 point 2 rebounds 4 fouls

So overall not terrible stats for a role player big. Most def not elite, nor is he an "Aldridge stopper"....
But Beverly didn't slow Lillard in the least either when people claimed he was a "Lillard stopper"...
In fact Lillard improved in every category statistically I believe.
 
honkicracker said:
I can see where he is coming from. He did play big for the Spurs against the mavs.. But considering the mavs have basically no one to guard him when putting Dalembert on Duncan...
But here are his game by game stats.
Game 1 - 30:25 minutes played 8 points 11 rebounds 2 TO 2 steals.
Game 2 - 27:32 minutes played 6 points 5 rebounds 2 TO 3 assists.
Game 3 - 28:35 minutes played 14 points 13 rebounds 3 assists 0 TO
Game 4 - 25:22 minutes played 10 points 12 rebounds 6 fouls 1 TO
Game 5 - 32:11 minutes played 17 points 12 rebounds 5 assists 5 fouls 1 TO
Game 6 - 32:43 minutes played 19 points 8 rebounds 2 assists 2 steals 0 TO
Game 7 - 15:15 minutes played 1 point 2 rebounds 4 fouls

So overall not terrible stats for a role player big. Most def not elite, nor is he an "Aldridge stopper"....
But Beverly didn't slow Lillard in the least either when people claimed he was a "Lillard stopper"...
In fact Lillard improved in every category statistically I believe.
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I agree. Elite is an absolute joke when you're talking about him, though.
 
Buffalo Blazer said:
I agree. Elite is an absolute joke when you're talking about him, though.
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If Splitter can play as well in the second round as he did in the first, I'll be amazed.

He had a PER of 23 on USG of 15, a WS/48 of .264 (LMA was .197), and leads the NBA playoffs in Ortg at 143. Difference is that he won't have Dirk or DeJuan Blair defending him in Round Two.
 
Same dudes.

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EL PRESIDENTE said:
One of my FB friends is down in SA, and she said that they were honking and driving around celebrating the win for FOUR HOURS after the game.
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Are you sure it wasn't an early Cinco de Mayo celebration?
 
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