Trade Idea Bledsoe and #7 for Jerami Grant

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Bledsoe and #7 for Jerami Grant

  • Yes

    Votes: 1 1.3%

  • No

    Votes: 75 98.7%
  • Total voters
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Blazinaway said:
What do you guys think about these trades I saw suggested on the other sites trade board?

Portland —> Atlanta: Bledsoe, small contract (Brown) & pick #7
Atlanta —> Portland: Collins & pick #16

Portland —> Detroit: TPE & pick #16
Detroit —> Portland: Grant
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If that atlanta deal is available, It could conceivably be consummated before/on draft night. I would definitely be in favor of seeing SOMETHING positive happen before the moratorium.
 
tykendo said:
If the Blazers could acquire the Hawks #16 pick, forget Grant, go get OG from the Raptors. Then you have a frontcourt of Nurk, Collins, and OG. HOMERUN!
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Well sure, but toronto wouldn't move OG for 16.
 
RR7 said:
Well sure, but toronto wouldn't move OG for 16.
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Not necessarily. If the Raptors split up that small frontcourt to add a bigman, #16 could be very valuable to acquire whoever is odd man out (Siakam, Barnes, or OG).
 
Everyone can say Dame likes Grant, but Dame likes a lot of players. Just because he's friends, doesn't mean the guy is coming to Portland. Rumors in the NBA are mostly, just that. I think Cronin has eye on bigger fish.
 
Plus a lot of people got a boner when Dame put a heart on the Ayton post. He might have been just liking the fact that someone liked a major player in the league joining him here, not him going to join someone elsewhere.
 
Portland out: 7, Bledsoe
In: Grant, Wood, Tate, Milwaukee pick

Houston out: Wood, Tate, 17, Milwaukee '23 1st
In: 7, Bledsoe

Detroit out: Grant
In: 17
 
RR7 said:
Portland out: 7, Bledsoe
In: Grant, Wood, Tate, Milwaukee pick

Houston out: Wood, Tate, 17, Milwaukee '23 1st
In: 7, Bledsoe

Detroit out: Grant
In: 17
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we'd still have our TPE and picks from MIL for 23 and 25, while getting Grant and Wood?

I'd give that serious consideration.
 
illmatic99 said:
we'd still have our TPE and picks from MIL for 23 and 25, while getting Grant and Wood?

I'd give that serious consideration.
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We'd need to use the tpe for Wood, so we'd shave it from 20 to about 7. So two 7 million TPEs and the 2 Milwaukee picks.
 
tykendo said:
If the Blazers could acquire the Hawks #16 pick, forget Grant, go get OG from the Raptors. Then you have a frontcourt of Nurk, Collins, and OG. HOMERUN!
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16 pick ain't gettin OG, not close IMO
 
RR7 said:
We'd need to use the tpe for Wood, so we'd shave it from 20 to about 7. So two 7 million TPEs and the 2 Milwaukee picks.
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i know the 25 MIL pick is top 4 protected. What are the protections on 23?
 
The yes vote has to be from Olshey’s burner account.

FRP for mid-tier guys? Sign Neil the fuck up :blink:
 
RR7 said:
Portland out: 7, Bledsoe
In: Grant, Wood, Tate, Milwaukee pick

Houston out: Wood, Tate, 17, Milwaukee '23 1st
In: 7, Bledsoe

Detroit out: Grant
In: 17
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The Blazers trading away the #7 for a future draft pick does make sense the more I think of it. The team wants to win with Dame but isn't really sure they can get the vets to do it. Draft picks usually have more value before they are used, so this let's the Blazers use a future pick at a later time to bring in a vet to win.

Alternatively if the Blazers can't get the other veterans they could keep this new future pick and do a youth rebuild. I like that more than trading the 7 for a win now vet which still needs so many other long shot roster moves to happen in order to make sense.

But to your actual proposal, I just don't see our assets having the value you list to the other teams. It makes sense why the Blazers would do it.
 
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Wood’s value is low due to his mental midget antics in Houston.

He’s not worth a top-10 pick - even with Tate/17 attached.

This would be a continuation of the Neil Olshey model.
 
Fez Forthright said:
Wood’s value is low due to his mental midget antics in Houston.

He’s not worth a top-10 pick - even with Tate/17 attached.

This would be a continuation of the Neil Olshey model.
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That's ignoring half the trade, we'd be adding Grant and a future 1st as well.
 
Fez Forthright said:
That makes it worse IMO.

Grant wants a $100m max extension.
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Yeah, that extension would likely start at just 2M more than he would make this season. We'd probably want to extend Wood for a few years with a 1-2M raise as well.

I guess it depends on if you think a core of Dame, Ant, Grant, Wood, Nurk, Hart, Nas, Justise and young players could contend. If you don't then you don't do the deal but look at how well rounded that rotation is if you add a big in the draft and the way they fit. I think that is a contending roster especially if some of the young players pop. Remember that Grant and Wood have both been being asked to do too much being their teams' go to guys and in this situation I honestly couldn't tell you who the second option is out of all of the starters after Dame which is a great thing. I can tell you that it would be the best defense Dame has had around him since being here assuming Ant is better than CJ but also taking into consideration Hart, Nas and Justise coming off the bench. It would also be the most offensive weapons he has had to help him on that end.

Grant and Wood are way better than any Olshey acquisition IMO but if you think it's just another RoCo, Norm or Larry then I guess it would definitely be a bad deal but you might want to compare the pre-Blazers numbers of Grant and Wood to Covington, Powell and Nance before jumping to that conclusion.
 
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Is Dame Grant Woods a contender? I'd say clearly no. We'd need Simons and likely another player to have a massive near all star level jump.
 
WesleyMatthews said:
Is Dame Grant Woods a contender? I'd say clearly no. We'd need Simons and likely another player to have a massive near all star level jump.
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The idea isn't thinking about it as who are our best three players, the idea is we have the elite player in Dame and then we have a bunch of guys who can all go for 20 to 30 on any given night. A bunch of guys who can't be ignored on offense and in Grant, Wood and Nurk a few very high level defenders. Then looking at a bench led by Hart, Nas and Justise with young players that you hope get better... what you're doing is building a well rounded team around a superstar. For sure you're hoping that Grant and Wood are even more effective in supporting roles than they've been as featured players and that Ant continues his upward trend... in fact those things should be expected. Also with Grant and Wood shouldering less of the load offensively, they will probably be even better defensively.
 
Blazinaway said:
What do you guys think about these trades I saw suggested on the other sites trade board?

Portland —> Atlanta: Bledsoe, small contract (Brown) & pick #7
Atlanta —> Portland: Collins & pick #16

Portland —> Detroit: TPE & pick #16
Detroit —> Portland: Grant
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But how would we integrate Collins and Grant into the lineup? That's a lot of money for two guys who play the same position... or do you think one of them can play the three?
 
Natebishop3 said:
But how would we integrate Collins and Grant into the lineup? That's a lot of money for two guys who play the same position... or do you think one of them can play the three?
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Grant can for sure play the three. I actually think he's out of position at the four and it's why his rebounding is so anemic. He's definitely a perimeter player more than a post and is probably better guarding wings than post players.
 
Especially if we are seeking a roster where players have good size/length for their position, I think you hope to have Grant playing the 3. And really, what matters is whether he can defend the 3, and I believe he can.
 
WesleyMatthews said:
Is Dame Grant Woods a contender? I'd say clearly no.
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sure seems like you'd say this about any suggestion because you're so invested in the idea that Portland's situation is hopeless

Dame-Simons-Grant-Wood-Nurkic with Hart, Winslow, Watford, Keon, an MLE, & two 6-7M TPE's could easily be better than any of the Dame/CJ teams, and maybe as good, if not better, than the Dame/Aldridge teams. And that team doesn't seem like a complete longshot either
 
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