Trade Idea Bledsoe and #7 for Jerami Grant

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Bledsoe and #7 for Jerami Grant

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    Votes: 1 1.3%

  • No

    Votes: 75 98.7%
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blazerkor said:
Grant can for sure play the three. I actually think he's out of position at the four and it's why his rebounding is so anemic. He's definitely a perimeter player more than a post and is probably better guarding wings than post players.
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He played very well against Jayson Tatum on both ends of the floor in Detroit's victory in Boston.
 
6’8” in shoes with a 7’3” wingspan is my idea of long athletic for his position. Assuming his position is SF
 
Fastbreak has us trading to Detroit: 7-EB & Keon for Grant & Corey Joseph
 
For the people that want Ayton what’s the difference between him and Duren? Besides age and salary? I guess Ayton is more proven, but he’s proven to be a 3rd or 4th best option on a lot of nights. I really don’t think the drop off from Ayton to Duren NEXT season will be that much.
 
Hoopguru said:
Fastbreak has us trading to Detroit: 7-EB & Keon for Grant & Corey Joseph
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I mean, it preserves the TPE and therefore if Houston was willing to accept future draft picks for Wood, it's the same result but it's still a pretty big overpay and I don't think that Houston would just take what we have in the way of future picks without us having to go through the process of guaranteeing Chicago our pick for next year by taking the protections off.
 
Hoopguru said:
Fastbreak has us trading to Detroit: 7-EB & Keon for Grant & Corey Joseph
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What is fastbreak?

as I’ve said, I expect this to happen. It’s an overpay though.

If you can add Grant, it’s an upgrade right now over the 7th pick

I like Wood, Collins, Harrell, Grant. If you can somehow add one of each forward position from that group, we are better. Still nowhere good enough to compete, but right back where we started with more balance.

So maybe at the deadline or next off-season we can add a piece or two to get us to the next level?

Not a 1 year fix
 
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Fez Forthright said:
That makes it worse IMO.

Grant wants a $100m max extension.
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that's one of the things with Grant, he likely wants a big payday and IMO isn't worth it. At least a guy like Collins is on a decent contract IMO and locked up for a while and is still 24 so better value there if we do decide to trade Dame in a yr or so, I think thought has to be given to guys acquired in this "rebuild around Dame" strategy that also plans for the scenario it does not work and we need to trade Dame. Collins is a good asset (also shoots 3 ball well) in either case IMO, Grant is really not (29 now)
LayneStaley said:
Fuck no. I’d honestly stop watching till they sold the team and got a GM at that point.
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double Fuck NO, awful trade
 
Mediocre Man said:
What is fastbreak?

as I’ve said, I expect this to happen. It’s an overpay though.

If you can add Grant, it’s an upgrade right now over the 7th pick

I like Wood, Collins, Harrell, Grant. If you can somehow add one of each forward position from that group, we are better. Still nowhere good enough to compete, but right back where we started with more balance.

So maybe at the deadline or next off-season we can add a piece or two to get us to the next level?

Not a 1 year fix
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Fez Forthright said:
That makes it worse IMO.

Grant wants a $100m max extension.
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I kinda missed something earlier in this. There is no such thing as a $100m max contract. A max contract has certain requirements for Grant a max contract extension would be 5 years and ~200M.

The rumor is Grant is seeking as much as 112M over four years, that's an average of 28M per year and that's his opening bid. I think we could get him for a contract that averages 25M a year and starts at 23M that's 2M more than he will make this upcoming season. I think he would prove very quickly to be worth it. His numbers make it look like he's worth it.
 
blazerkor said:
Fastbreak has the worst trade ideas and they're rarely in touch with player values... not that I am or anything but they just churn out tons of trade ideas many of which are unrealistic. Jerami Grant is not worth the seventh pick and so he's definitely not worth the seventh pick and a prospect like Keon even if Keon isn't the most valuable of players.
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Im not advocating to do this trade just saw it on line and passed it on.
The net is full of speculation and predictions.
Id rather have Murray than Grant.
Id rather have Collins than Grant but if Dame wants Grant?
 
Hoopguru said:
Im not advocating to do this trade just saw it on line and passed it on.
The net is full of speculation and predictions.
Id rather have Murray than Grant.
Id rather have Collins than Grant but if Dame wants Grant?
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If that’s the case Dame to Sac for Sabonis/Fox/#4 works for me.
 
Natebishop3 said:
But how would we integrate Collins and Grant into the lineup? That's a lot of money for two guys who play the same position... or do you think one of them can play the three?
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I think Grant would be fine at the 3.
 
Wade Garrett said:
How would you know?
You embellish half of what you write, and your trade proposal flamed out at a 55-1 score.
You jump to all conclusions before anything has been allowed to even work itself out, and will no doubt flip-flop your way through the upcoming season as Cronin's vision could very well play out.
"Rational" Blazer fan?
Not you.
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Ahh yes, the vision that sees a $5 bill and perceives it as a $1 bill. I think you are one of the people who is blinded by hatred for Olshey and thus not close to rational.
 
Paine Tablet said:
Ahh yes, the vision that sees a $5 bill and perceives it as a $1 bill. I think you are one of the people who is blinded by hatred for Olshey and thus not close to rational.
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It's not hatred for Olshey so much as massive respect for Cronin.
 
PtldPlatypus said:
It's not hatred for Olshey so much as massive respect for Cronin.
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It is common for people to have biases. If someone has talked to someone and had good interactions, that can totally give someone rose colored glasses.

That's ok. Just admit it. It is unreasonable to think we will be next years Mavericks.
 
SlyPokerCat said:
It is common for people to have biases. If someone has talked to someone and had good interactions, that can totally give someone rose colored glasses.

That's ok. Just admit it. It is unreasonable to think we will be next years Mavericks.
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OK. We'll be next year's Grizzlies.
 
Mediocre Man said:
What is fastbreak?

as I’ve said, I expect this to happen. It’s an overpay though.

If you can add Grant, it’s an upgrade right now over the 7th pick

I like Wood, Collins, Harrell, Grant. If you can somehow add one of each forward position from that group, we are better. Still nowhere good enough to compete, but right back where we started with more balance.

So maybe at the deadline or next off-season we can add a piece or two to get us to the next level?

Not a 1 year fix
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I don't think we had the possibility of a 1 year fix unless we could have swung CJ for Simmons, allowing us to tank.

Big gamble (and had CJ punching way over his head value wise), but I think if we could have added a motivated Simmons and #7 to last years team we'd have been close enough to trade ourselves into competing over the off season.
 
PtldPlatypus said:
Not interested in Fox. If we deal Dame, Simons takes over at PG.
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We wouldn't have to keep Fox, though. He'd be a candidate to flip to another team that might bring back something useful.

Oh wait, I forgot Cronin would be making that trade. We'd probably get back a half-eaten bag of chips.
 
Phatguysrule said:
I don't think we had the possibility of a 1 year fix unless we could have swung CJ for Simmons, allowing us to tank.

Big gamble (and had CJ punching way over his head value wise), but I think if we could have added a motivated Simmons and #7 to last years team we'd have been close enough to trade ourselves into competing over the off season.
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I agree 100%
 
Phatguysrule said:
I don't think we had the possibility of a 1 year fix unless we could have swung CJ for Simmons, allowing us to tank.

Big gamble (and had CJ punching way over his head value wise), but I think if we could have added a motivated Simmons and #7 to last years team we'd have been close enough to trade ourselves into competing over the off season.
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CJ for Simmons might have got us close to contending. Probably still another move away, but it would've at least made our roster interesting. Should we have given up the 3 first round picks in retrospect? Maybe. Although its not like Simmons has lit the world on fire.

The year prior we probably could have traded CJ for Harden, and years back Paul George. We would've had to add extra picks or value to a trade, but he could've been our version of Demar DeRozen the Raptors used to bring in Kawhi and win a title.

Instead now we have Eric Bledsoe or a trade exception. Thats the problem with Cronins deadline moves, not only did we lose talent in the trades but we also lost the opportunity cost of a decent or good trade.
 
WesleyMatthews said:
CJ for Simmons might have got us close to contending. Probably still another move away, but it would've at least made our roster interesting. Should we have given up the 3 first round picks in retrospect? Maybe. Although its not like Simmons has lit the world on fire.

The year prior we probably could have traded CJ for Harden, and years back Paul George. We would've had to add extra picks or value to a trade, but he could've been our version of Demar DeRozen the Raptors used to bring in Kawhi and win a title.

Instead now we have Eric Bledsoe or a trade exception. Thats the problem with Cronins deadline moves, not only did we lose talent in the trades but we also lost the opportunity cost of a decent or good trade.
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I don't think we were ever going to get Harden out of CJ. Hart is far closer to CJ in value than CJ is to Harden or Simmons.

There was maybe a remote chance for Simmons, but a deal like that went out the door when Philly wouldn't consider the swap... And Dame wasn't interested in waiting longer to get serious. We just didn't have the time to wait for the next remote opportunity to swing at a distressed All Star.

I also agree tgst CJ for Simmons wasn't enough to make us contenders.
 
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