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There’s definitely an argument for resting our players.

The chances of us dropping to 5 aren’t very good. It may well be worth some much needed rest. Dame looks exhausted, it’s not a good way to enter the playoffs. CJ could also likely use some rest.

Not sure the difference between a 4 and 3 seed is really worth much.

Poopovich would be resting his players in this situation.
Difference between 3 seed and 4 seed is Warriors in WCF or Warriors in second round. 3 seed is better.
 
It's not nearly the same thing. Roys knees were fucking gone. CJ knees are fine. He strained his knee. He took more than the reccomended time to come back. He wasn't rushed back. He didn't play full minutes last night.
I never equated the situations. I simply said that maybe CJ could use more time off and it’s probably not worth chasing a 3 seed, especially given how exhausted Dame has looked in the past 2 games.
 
Difference between 3 seed and 4 seed is Warriors in WCF or Warriors in second round. 3 seed is better.

We’re gonna be heavy underdogs vs rockets, nuggets, or warriors. One may be better than the other, but I don’t see the point in chasing the seed. Our goal imo should be getting out of the first round without Nurkic, we should prioritize for that goal.
 
We’re gonna be heavy underdogs vs rockets, nuggets, or warriors. One may be better than the other, but I don’t see the point in chasing the seed. Our goal imo should be getting out of the first round without Nurkic, we should prioritize for that goal.
There just isn't any easy matchup in the west across the board...getting homecourt is all that's left...
 
Any player is at risk for injury, and CJ's risk for reinjury is isnt greater. They wouldn't put him or the odd he was.

Roy came back because the wasnt really any meniscus to repair. Also, different staff. You have no basis for your claims.

Yes, he'd be playing if it was November. Players have to return at some point, and it doesnt take months to repair a sprained muscle. Any time a player returns, you can make this BS argument.

“He would be playing if it was November”

How do you know?
 
This is where the discussion should have been all along. Putting injured players at risk is hardly unique to the Blazers, or the NBA. Whether it is the NBA, the NFL, or MLB it is legit to take the actions of team medical staffs with a dose of scepticism. Team staff are constantly being put in a position of weighing team interests against individual player interests. They are being asked to serve two masters who have different agendas. It is naive to assume that the interests of the player always win out.

Is this the case with CJ? I have no clue....but it is tough for me to condemn fans who are concerned. Obviously, I am giving the new(?) guy the benefit of the doubt here.

Don’t do that. The new guy is sub human rookie scum.
 
See when you're proven wrong you can't just try to claim it was a joke after doubling down and then try to move the goal posts.....again.

Clearly was a joke, although I admit I wasn’t aware the medical staff changed - it clearly didn’t affect my broader argument. Ironically, your lack of good faith and inability to acknowledge a joke as a joke highlights the same sort of devious debate tactics that you’re accusing me of.
 
Because a game in November counts the same as a game in early April.

They don’t though because the April games are used to get in a rhythm for the playoffs. Any coach would rather have a full roster in April than November.
 
Clearly was a joke, although I admit I wasn’t aware the medical staff changed - it clearly didn’t affect my broader argument. Ironically, your lack of good faith and inability to acknowledge a joke as a joke highlights the same sort of devious debate tactics that you’re accusing me of.
Sometimes we use green fonts to signal jokes in posts...my jokes fail all the time, but no forum member should ever be accused of using the dreaded DDT!
 
They don’t though because the April games are used to get in a rhythm for the playoffs. Any coach would rather have a full roster in April than November.
Theres no to rush reinjury to try and get someone back into a rhythm. CJ isn't going to get back into a rhythm if he's not 100%.
 
I never equated the situations. I simply said that maybe CJ could use more time off and it’s probably not worth chasing a 3 seed, especially given how exhausted Dame has looked in the past 2 games.
Nah. That isn't what you said at all. But it is what you are saying now and it is probably as right as any other scenario. So good on ya.
 
Theres no to rush reinjury to try and get someone back into a rhythm. CJ isn't going to get back into a rhythm if he's not 100%.

Yeah I hear you, but I heard CJ say something in his podcast about how he doesn’t need regular season reps, that the playoffs are a different animal anyway - and it’s playoff experience that really matters (which he has).

Couple that with the fact that we’re basically only playing for a largely-meaningless 3 v 4 seed and I favor resting him til the playoffs like Poppovich doesZ
 
Nah. That isn't what you said at all. But it is what you are saying now and it is probably as right as any other scenario. So good on ya.
Quote me saying different and I’ll explain how you’re not understanding the context.
 
Quote me saying different and I’ll explain how you’re not understanding the context.
I'd be willing to bet you would. No need. Like i said. Probably as right as any other scenario and it is what you are saying now. I'm good with that.
 
I now have the second lyric to rhyme with cookie crumb...thank you....that's two verses!

The rookie scum and the homeless bum
fought to death for a cookie crumb.
From the OMG (your drunken chum)
came a prodigious belch of lime and rum.
Riverman, your time will come
now sit in the corner and suck your thumb!

(Lyrics by HCP, music by OrionBailey)
 
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Difference between 3 seed and 4 seed is Warriors in WCF or Warriors in second round. 3 seed is better.

But I've been told in the past gsw can't guard us.
What has changed?
 
I never equated the situations. I simply said that maybe CJ could use more time off and it’s probably not worth chasing a 3 seed, especially given how exhausted Dame has looked in the past 2 games.

It came off that way. Ok then. Maybe he could have. That's reasonable. But, if the Blazers waited to bring him back till the playoffs, he would be rusty and not as effecient or helpful for the team. The Blazers would be more likely to lose games, maybe even get swept. They need to be as close to full power as they can going in.

Bringing him back now, after three weeks of rest for his knee strain whuch is more than is reccomended, he can get that rust off in the last few games and get back to form. (He had 9 points in 25 mins = rust)

I don't see any harm in chasing the third seed. There are only 2 games left against two non playoff teams. It will probably all be sorted out tonight anyway.
 
It came off that way. Ok then. Maybe he could have. That's reasonable. But, if the Blazers waited to bring him back till the playoffs, he would be rusty and not as effecient or helpful for the team. The Blazers would be more likely to lose games, maybe even get swept. They need to be as close to full power as they can going in.

Bringing him back now, after three weeks of rest for his knee strain whuch is more than is reccomended, he can get that rust off in the last few games and get back to form. (He had 9 points in 25 mins = rust)

I don't see any harm in chasing the third seed. There are only 2 games left against two non playoff teams. It will probably all be sorted out tonight anyway.

I’m not sure the assumption that he would be more rusty if he didn’t play is true.

1) He’s gonna be somewhat rusty regardless, it’s not clear how much 3 meaningless games against shit teams played in dead stadiums will really help prepare for ultra-intense playoff games. It could even be counter productive by making him acclimated to this garbage level of competition.

2) We could probably end up playing him more minutes in the playoffs if he takes more time off now.
 
I’m not sure the assumption that he would be more rusty if he didn’t play is true.

1) He’s gonna be somewhat rusty regardless, it’s not clear how much 3 meaningless games against shit teams played in dead stadiums will really help prepare for ultra-intense playoff games. It could even be counter productive by making him acclimated to this garbage level of competition.

2) We could probably end up playing him more minutes in the playoffs if he takes more time off now.

The only way to get into shape for a NBA game is to play in some NBA games.
 
I’m not sure the assumption that he would be more rusty if he didn’t play is true.

1) He’s gonna be somewhat rusty regardless, it’s not clear how much 3 meaningless games against shit teams played in dead stadiums will really help prepare for ultra-intense playoff games. It could even be counter productive by making him acclimated to this garbage level of competition.

2) We could probably end up playing him more minutes in the playoffs if he takes more time off now.

He'd be more rusty if he waits to play. Those 3 "meaningless" games are important for him to get back in form before the Blazers see the highly intensive play off atmosphere. It's not about the level of competition. It's getting his shot back. Getting his legs under him. Getting back in form after not playing basketball for 3 weeks.

That makes no sense. If we play him now, he can play more in the playoffs because he will have a chance to be back in form. If we didn't play him now, he'd be a rust bucket in the playoffs. He'd get winded. He only played 25 minutes last game. Scored only 9 points. If we waited, it would be just like that, only in the playoffs.
 

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