OT Boycotting the NFL

[dviss1]

Yes, vastly preferable. Especial being one of those targeted to piss off. How this will effect any change is very obscure beyond pissing people off.

Should we have protested against Hitler or would it have been "vastly preferable" not to "piss off" those in power?

 

[dviss1]

I hate the protests. I wish they would all stand on the line. I with there was another way to get through to people.

HOWEVER, these players are getting America to talk about a serious issue of black men getting shot and killed simply because THEY ARE BLACK. HOW IS THIS ACCEPTABLE TO ANYONE? The fact that these young men are doing EXACTLY what great Americans have done for centuries to help right wrongs should be applauded, not questioned.

Our brave men and women have fought for their right to PEACEFULLY protest.

It's pathetically slow, but because of their actions, change is happening.

It's been said by almost everyone protesting that it's not about disrespect.

My kids school had a teacher who was abusive to a student. The school suspended him WITH PAY for a month. He came back and my son, taking a page from players, turned his desk around in his class. He got in trouble, but a few weeks later, kids started doing it in all their classes. This led to the teacher "resigning"

My son or the other students weren't being disrespectful to the other teachers, they were peacefully protesting a wrong, and eventually, it was righted

I'm drunk and rambling, but that's my 2....er 3 cents

Hopefully change will happen quicker, but until then, kudos to the players trying to make a difference

I would have a drink with you any time any day MM. Mimosas and bloody marys in the morning? Four Roses Burbon in the evening? Beers? Ciders? You choose.

 

[dviss1]

MarAzul: Don't piss off the people who are killing you!

 

[MarAzul]

...lol...well, I I'm not surprised that you can't see "the point of my post"...I can also understand why you refused to answer a simple answer to the simple question I posed.

Make it simple, what is your question?

 

[MarAzul]

Maybe you just think black people don't deserve access to that right...

Oh, I think you all are exercising your right to the 1st. Just not well thought out to achieve any positive result. I really think it is designed to piss people off, and in that you succeed. I even expect you are pleased with the result and will repeat the process at every opportunity with the same result.

 

[MarAzul]

Don't piss off the people who are killing you!

The vast majority of people objecting have killed no one. That was a fool post.

 

[yankeesince59]

Make it simple, what is your question?

...oh now you're just being obtuse and evasive...I already made it simple and you know perfectly well what the question was. (post # 26)

 

[dviss1]

The vast majority of people objecting have killed no one. That was a fool post.

All you do is post foolishness. Do you advocate for prosecution of those who have? No.

 

[dviss1]

...oh now you're just being obtuse and evasive...you know perfectly well what the question was. (post # 26)

MarAzul's modus operandi.

 

[MarAzul]

Should we have protested against Hitler

Study your history. We skipped protest and proceeded to warfare.

 

[barfo]

Oh, I think you all are exercising your right to the 1st. Just not well thought out to achieve any positive result. I really think it is designed to piss people off, and in that you succeed. I even expect you are pleased with the result and will repeat the process at every opportunity with the same result.

What you are missing is that there are some people who will take the extra step of asking "what is this protest about", and learn the answer. And that is the positive result of the protest.

There are, of course some who will learn what the protest is about, ignore that, and protest the protest, like you do. And I think you are exercising your right to the 1st. Just not well thought out to achieve any positive result.

barfo

 

[MARIS61]

Making a scene of disrespect for the flag and country as a way of asking for unity from the Americans whom the flag represents suggests a mental deficiency of epic proportions.

A guaranteed fail from the word go.

To keep repeating the error simply confirms the existence of the mental deficiency.

 

[yankeesince59]

Study your history. We skipped protest and proceeded to warfare.

...I think it's you who needs to study your history...in case you forgot, we were surprise attacked by Japan.

 

[MARIS61]

I just don't see it that way. If you already know in advance what the likely scenario will be why would you willfully subject yourself to it?

...just saying.

Nobody ever said football players were intelligent.

Now it is certain they never will.

 

[MarAzul]

If you already know in advance what the likely scenario will be why would you willfully subject yourself to it?

...oh now you're just being obtuse and evasive...I already made it simple and you know perfectly well what the question was. (post # 26)

This is a question?

 

[MARIS61]

...I think it's you who needs to study your history...in case you forgot, we surprise attacked by Japan.

Some Americans were surprised.

Our government was not.

 

[MarAzul]

.in case you forgot, we were surprise attacked by Japan.

True. We were attack by Japan. Good on you, score one point.

 

[yankeesince59]

Nobody ever said football players were intelligent.

Now it is certain they never will.

...uhhh, one more time...and in English please.

 

[yankeesince59]

Some Americans were surprised.

Our government was not.

...ahhh, I see...so American citizens should/could have protested they knew nothing about?...check.

 

[yankeesince59]

True. We were attack by Japan. Good on you, score one point.

...uhhh, it was in reply to your comment about Hitler...keep up.

 

[MarAzul]

What you are missing is that there are some people who will take the extra step of asking "what is this protest about", and learn the answer.

Yes, they learn the what is said. But you can observer the results and it is not what is said.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

So.....you’d rather piss people off by doing nothing than be personally pissed off by people doing something? Interesting world view........

Marzy would have been so disgusted over the Boston Tea Party.

 

[MARIS61]

Should we have protested against Hitler or would it have been "vastly preferable" not to "piss off" those in power?

If you were kneeling to the US national anthem and the US flag to protest Hitler, you would appear just as anti-American and ignorant as the NFL players do, accomplishing the same empty antagonism.

Bottom line is...

 

[dviss1]

Study your history. We skipped protest and proceeded to warfare.

Stupid post. Warfare is the ULTIMATE protest.

 

[dviss1]

"To keep repeating the error simply confirms the existence of the mental deficiency."

Why do we keep letting him make racist posts like this...?

 

[MarAzul]

...uhhh, it was in reply to your comment about Hitler...keep up.

You do know the war on Germany was declared after Hitler's Germany declared war on the US?
The War against Germany and Japan were essentially two separate wars. The war against Germany was won first, Japan took a little longer. My comment about Hitler stands, your retort makes no sense.

 

[barfo]

Yes, they learn the what is said. But you can observer the results and it is not what is said.

Not, the gibberish random. Let statement same stand. Is same.

barfo

 

[barfo]

Marzy would have been so disgusted over the Boston Tea Party.

Was disgusted. He's still pissed he didn't do more to stop it.

barfo

 

[MarAzul]

Stupid post. Warfare is the ULTIMATE protest.

Hopefully we have people to lead in warfare better trained and with a plan for success to achieve a desirable result, than those that concocted the dumbass idea of disrespecting the Flag that is likely only to achieve the result of pissing people off.

 

[yankeesince59]

You do know the war on Germany was declared after Hitler's Germany declared war on the US?
The War against Germany and Japan were essentially two separate wars. The war against Germany was won first, Japan took a little longer. My comment about Hitler stands, your retort makes no sense.

...lol...Germany and the US declared war on each other the same day.

...so no, I award you no points...still waiting for you to answer my question...but I doubt you will and I'm sure I know why.