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Brock said:
We need a quality backup PF more then anything on this team. How many years have we seen this glaring hole in post season play?
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Whenever LMA has gotten into early foul trouble, the lack of legit back PF that can score and defend was glaring. Landry isn't an amazing starter, but he's a guy that can get his own shot and rebound the hell out of the ball. I think the full MLE is reasonable for him.
 
Brock said:
But as far as Portland fans go, they are the best home crowd in the league but also in love with anyone who ever wears the jersey. Pryz is done.
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Are you kidding? Roy still wears a Blazer jersey and look at what some of the fans here are saying about him.
 
Mediocre Man said:
With a small market team that FA's don't want to come to you have to build through the draft and trades. You have to use the money ball approach. KP did this, and with a different coach and no injuries this team would have been awesome. It is time to start over, only this time you have a much better foundation with Aldridge, Batum and maybe Felton.

There are absolutely no quick answers, but Roy on this team, with all the gazelles is DEFINITELY not the answer
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I thought that is what you were suggesting. I don't want to start over right now. I see your point that we have pieces that we can trade now. But KP really did this through the draft, not really through trades. And we were in the lottery. I am not ready to return to the lottery.
 
I meant past blazers.

excluding zach, miles, bonzi and anderson.

I remember years ago people wanted Damon S to buy the team!
 
HCP said:
Was it Tracy Murrey who tried to check into a game and noticed he had nothing on under his sweat jacket? Turned around and went straight back to the locker room?
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Ala abdulnaby and that was when Adleman was still coach.
 
craigehlo said:
Lots of cap room isn't going to help much next summer if we don't have a shot at CP3, Howard or DWill. The rest of the unrestricted free agent crop are awful. We need to acquire players by trading expiring deals like Camby if we want a legit impact player.
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I agree unless Freedland can contribute. And he will be a free agent. Obviously he is not in the same class as the three you mentioned. No one is. But what quality player is on the trading block right now for an expiring contract? I agree dumping Camby would be ideal. I just don't see it happening for a quality player. Maybe at the deadline when someone is desperate.
 
Couldn't have fucked that more up if I tried huh? Congrats on getting engaged brother!
 
Pinwheel1 said:
I thought that is what you were suggesting. I don't want to start over right now. I see your point that we have pieces that we can trade now. But KP really did this through the draft, not really through trades. And we were in the lottery. I am not ready to return to the lottery.
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You need to build through the draft and then add pieces (Gerald Wallace, Wes Matthews, Raymond Felton) through trades and free agency. In reality though, Aldridge, Batum and Roy were through trades.
 
Brock said:
And if you are happy with Joel over the two of those guys, well then I get why people make fun of portland and their fans.
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What people make fun of Portland and their fans? And Bill Simmons is not "people".
 
If the fans of Ptown that "everyones" so worried we'll lose if BRoy is let got vanish.... I would retort "That's a HUGE VICTORY because those are some of the dumbest fucking people on the planet!!!" This guys knees are gone and they wont repair! HE KNOWS IT! Paul ALLen knows it, and so does the coaching staff!" This is a SAD OBVIOUS MARKETING STUNT to get people to come to the games. Paul Allen wants to protect his investment for atleast the next 2 years while looking for a suitable buyer. This is truly how sad our worthless owner has fallen. He wont spring for playoff t-shirts for a sold out Rose Garden, but will PR boost a gimp show that every true basketball fans knows has no shot of getting past the first round of the playoffs. WOW!

Let's not even go to the facts that B Roy plays no defense and slows the offense down to a crawl, but this all but screams 32 win season. As for those who think the blazers had a shot at an up tempo offense this year??!! Think again!!!! LA's #'s will sag, Wallace will be picking his nose waiting for a play to develop and Wes and Batum strengths will be rusting. However, we will get to see Brandon limp up the court, run the shot clock down then try and go 1 on 3 with bad knees. Now that's something to buy season tickets for! HAHAHAHAHA!

Paul Allen is looking to dump this team and he's hoping BRoys past success will buy him some time with the fans...

This is no longer a product worth supporting, because it's scam! We don't have a GM, we are not waiving a guy who can barely walk, and we trying to extend another that breaks his knee getting out of bed. This is stupid people!

Thank God for the Ducks!!! I'm out!
 
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Ghost Pepper said:
If the fans of Ptown that "everyones" so worried we'll lose if BRoy is let got vanish.... I would retort "That's a HUGE VICTORY because those are some of the dumbest fucking people on the planet!!!" This guys knees are gone and they wont repair! HE KNOWS IT! Paul ALLen knows it, and so does the coaching staff!" This is a SAD OBVIOUS MARKETING STUNT to get people to come to the games. Paul Allen wants to protect his investment for atleast the next 2 years while looking for a suitable buyer. This is truly how sad our worthless owner has fallen. He wont spring for playoff t-shirts for a sold out Rose Garden, but will PR boost a gimp show that every true basketball fans knows has no shot of getting past the first round of the playoffs. WOW!

Let's not even go to the facts that B Roy plays no defense and slows the offense down to a crawl, but this all but screams we wont do jack in the playoffs! As for those who think the blazers had a shot at an up tempo offense this year??!! Think again!!!! LA's #'s will sag, Wallace will be picking his nose waiting for a play to develop and Wes and Batum strengths will be rusting. However, we will get to see Brandon limp up the court, run the shot clock down then try and go 1 on 3 with bad knees. Now that's something to buy season tickets for! HAHAHAHAHA!

Paul Allen is looking to dump this team and he's hoping BRoys past success will buy him some time with the fans...

This is no longer a product worth supporting, because it's scam! We don't have a GM, we are not waiving a guy who can barely walk, and we trying to extend another that breaks his knee getting out of bed. This is stupid people!

Thank God for the Ducks!!! I'm out!
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Neat Story!
 
Ghost Pepper said:
If the fans of Ptown that "everyones" so worried we'll lose if BRoy is let got vanish.... I would retort "That's a HUGE VICTORY because those are some of the dumbest fucking people on the planet!!!" This guys knees are gone and they wont repair! HE KNOWS IT! Paul ALLen knows it, and so does the coaching staff!" This is a SAD OBVIOUS MARKETING STUNT to get people to come to the games. Paul Allen wants to protect his investment for atleast the next 2 years while looking for a suitable buyer. This is truly how sad our worthless owner has fallen. He wont spring for playoff t-shirts for a sold out Rose Garden, but will PR boost a gimp show that every true basketball fans knows has no shot of getting past the first round of the playoffs. WOW!

Let's not even go to the facts that B Roy plays no defense and slows the offense down to a crawl, but this all but screams we wont do jack in the playoffs! As for those who think the blazers had a shot at an up tempo offense this year??!! Think again!!!! LA's #'s will sag, Wallace will be picking his nose waiting for a play to develop and Wes and Batum strengths will be rusting. However, we will get to see Brandon limp up the court, run the shot clock down then try and go 1 on 3 with bad knees. Now that's something to buy season tickets for! HAHAHAHAHA!

Paul Allen is looking to dump this team and he's hoping BRoys past success will buy him some time with the fans...

This is no longer a product worth supporting, because it's scam! We don't have a GM, we are not waiving a guy who can barely walk, and we trying to extend another that breaks his knee getting out of bed. This is stupid people!

Thank God for the Ducks!!! I'm out!
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Are you saying that PA keeps Roy and resigns Oden because he wants to sell the team?

If PA wants to sell the team, then he dumps big contracts and doesn't resign a big question mark to a multi-year deal.

I also don't see how keeping 16 million on the payroll (plus luxury tax) will be made up in ticket sales.

Maybe PA doesn't want to sell, doesn't care how much he spends on the team and figures if he has a year to play with Roy's contract he will grossly overpay Roy for one year in hopes he can contribute anything to the team.

If it was me, I would say fuck the fans and cut Roy because even if he could help, he isn't worth the money. But I don't have PA type money. Not many do . . .
 
If PA wants this team to be better he cuts Roy who kills this teams tempo and plays no defense, get a freakin GM, and gets a coach that has an ability to draw up a freaking offense!

That's where I'd start!

BTW- Need a Magnifier is exactly the type of fan who feels winning is the free chalupa at the end of the game! No offense taken!
 
From reading magnifiers posts I agree with u ghost pepper. Just be prepared to be called Ben Davis or Mixum!
 
Brock said:
no i want them to backup aldridge! we need that toughness off bench. guys who play excellent defense, not to mention landry could score.

you do realize with all the back to backs, the chances aldridge wont get hurt and the chances of camby staying healthy are zero with all those games. enter landry or hayes. not pryzbilla.
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We will use Chris Johnson, Camby, and Wallace to back up Aldridge. Not a problem.
 
Ghost Pepper said:
If PA wants this team to be better he cuts Roy who kills this teams tempo and plays no defense, get a freakin GM, and gets a coach that has an ability to draw up a freaking offense!

That's where I'd start!

BTW- Need a Magnifier is exactly the type of fan who feels winning is the free chalupa at the end of the game! No offense taken!
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OK, I get you don't agree with the philosophy of the Blazers.

But explain to me how keeping Roy and trying to resign Oden to a multi-year deal is preparing to sell the team? Or how keeping 16 million on the payroll when the team is over the cap is a way of PA making money off the fans?
 
Backing up Aldridge with those guys is what didn't work last year. Camby will be hurt by Martin Luther King day bro!
 
Mediocre Man said:
You need to build through the draft and then add pieces (Gerald Wallace, Wes Matthews, Raymond Felton) through trades and free agency. In reality though, Aldridge, Batum and Roy were through trades.
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I would not consider getting Aldridge to be an addition through a trade; we already had the #4 pick from sucking so bad. I consider his addition to be the result of being a horrible lottery team.

To build through the draft you need to suck very bad, KP was able to have a couple great drafts because he inherited the worse roster in the league, which is potentially a huge benefit for a new GM. I don't think trying to build through the draft is a good strategy for where this team is right now. Maybe we can get extremely lucky on a late pick that turns into a Boozer or Ginobili or Marc Gasol or something but other then that it'll have to be trades and free agents.

Last year we added Wes in free agency and Gerald in a trade, so if you make some smart or lucky moves its still very possible.

I don't like the complete rebuild idea, because to suck enough for a franchise player pick we'll need to dump guys like LA/Gerald/Nic. Then even if we struck gold with the next Dwight Howard they'd be surrounded by scrubs and want to leave just like Chris Paul, Carmello, Lebron, Bosh.
 
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Draco said:
To build through the draft you need to suck very bad, KP was able to have a couple great drafts because he inherited the worse roster in the league, which is potentially a huge benefit for a new GM. I don't think trying to build through the draft is a good strategy for where this team is right now. Maybe we can get extremely lucky on a late pick that turns into a Boozer or Ginobili or something but other then that it'll have to be trades and free agents.

Last year we added Wes in free agency and Gerald in a trade, so if you make some smart or lucky moves its still very possible.

I don't like the complete rebuild idea, because to suck enough for a franchise player pick we'll need to dump guys like LA/Gerald/Nic. Then even if we struck gold with the next Dwight Howard they'd be surrounded by scrubs and want to leave just like Chris Paul, Carmello, Lebron, Bosh.
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It's not a rebuild, it's a retool. You keep slid pieces and then add through the draft. You just have to have a scouting team that is rock solid and a GM not hell bent on fucking you in the draft right after you fired him. Like KP id with Babbitt
 
Carlito said:
Backing up Aldridge with those guys is what didn't work last year. Camby will be hurt by Martin Luther King day bro!
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So basically you want LMA playing center. Because if you add Hayes or Landry for a 30 million full MLE then they would need to get 25-30 minutes. I don't have a problem with that because I like small ball. But if you want to go small I would rather give minutes to Wallace at the 4 and get another back up at the 5. Is it still a 15 man roster? Seems like they can add another body.

You also need minutes next year for Freedland. And he won't sign if there are no minutes. Is he the key to our future? No. is Hayes or Landry? No
 
Carlito said:
Backing up Aldridge with those guys is what didn't work last year. Camby will be hurt by Martin Luther King day bro!
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Nope. What didn't work last year was not having Oden.
 
Mediocre Man said:
It's not a rebuild, it's a retool. You keep slid pieces and then add through the draft. You just have to have a scouting team that is rock solid and a GM not hell bent on fucking you in the draft right after you fired him. Like KP id with Babbitt
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Ok so the key to a re-tool is you need to draft much better then other NBA franchises.... that is far easier said then done. All franchises have big scouting departments and are spending millions trying to project the best players. It's a very imperfect unpredictable science. Even the great KP during his glory years still drafted duds like Sergio, Rudy, Koponen, Pendegraph, Clavair, Bayless. We now know he blew the Durant draft, the most important pick we've had in 30 years. Batum is the only good non-lotto pick KP made while he had the luxury of blowing around $15 million of SPAM money on picks.

It's easy to sit here and bitch at Blazer management and say they should rebuild through the draft, but actually executing a plan like that is very difficult.
 
So u think oden plays by when??? Be prepared for a let down.
 
So until feb... We should count on Camby, Johnson, and ? If that doesn't alarm u then something is wrong.

Here comes "get pryz"
 
Mediocre Man said:
It's not a rebuild, it's a retool. You keep slid pieces and then add through the draft. You just have to have a scouting team that is rock solid and a GM not hell bent on fucking you in the draft right after you fired him. Like KP id with Babbitt
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That is weak. You honestly think KP pulled Babbitt out of his ass on draft day and then talked everyone into acquiring him after he was fired? Our management team may not be the best, but the way some of you guys embellish things are over the top.
 
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