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RR7 said:
I agree they should be paid more, I just don't see why the NBA players should subsidize it when there are billionaire owners that could do it far more easily.
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Yeah, that's even better. Ideally NBA owners would just cover the first million of a WNBA player's contract or something...
 
SlyPokerCat said:
I don't disagree that men have dominated everything for a long time. It just seems opposite of what they would want to be perceived as where men could be considered saving then.

People could stop virtue signaling and actually start making change by supporting those sports more. But they won't. Because it is just too easy for someone to say they are better than you because they believe this or that.
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I don't think most care about being perceived as being saved. I think it would go a long way toward helping make WNBA players feel less spiteful that men are making so much, while they are being paid as much as a garbage man.

And no disrespect to garbage men, but say want you want about attendance at WNBA games, nobody is coming to watch garbage men do their job. You at least get thousands for WNBA. There is no Garbage Man All Star Game...
 
crandc said:
All this is an interesting discussion but meanwhile she is held hostage.
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40,000 Americans are currently in prison for cannabis. She's a prisoner, not a hostage. She has even plead guilty. Nobody is rising up for the 40,0000 people here who are incarcerated. they are also prisoners. I want them ALL free ..not just the celebrities. It sucks Russia has done this but Whelan wasn't even on anyone's radar until Britany got arrested. The good in this situation is that it has raised awareness to the ridiculous laws against an herb and spotlighted the horrible sentences Russians give out to foreigners as opposed to their own people arrested for the same crimes. Again...I hope they all come home....from every country in the world...and our own prisons.
 
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Phatguysrule said:
Yeah, that's even better. Ideally NBA owners would just cover the first million of a WNBA player's contract or something...
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WNBA = Welfare National Basketball Association

Million dollars a year for a 2 month season in a league anyone barely watches or cares about.
 
Some of you are making the assumption that Griner will be treated as well in Russia as she would be in an American prison.

Yes, what she did was dumb but the punishment for that shouldn't be sexual and physical assaults for 9 years.

Bring her home along with the rest of the Americans being held in Russia.
 
Lower the prices of beer and hot dogs to $2.
 
I just don't understand how anyone could rationalize releasing someone who could lead to the deaths of innocent people.

We immortalized the people of flight 93 in a movie because they were willing to fight to save lives and ultimately gave up their own lives in the process.

But we're going to release someone who has absolutely caused the deaths of innocent people so that we can get a semi-famous basketball player out of prison in Russia?
 
SlyPokerDog said:
Some of you are making the assumption that Griner will be treated as well in Russia as she would be in an American prison.

Yes, what she did was dumb but the punishment for that shouldn't be sexual and physical assaults for 9 years.

Bring her home along with the rest of the Americans being held in Russia.
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Absolutely. How?
 
SlyPokerDog said:
Lower the prices of beer and hot dogs to $2.
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Drop it to "free" and you might get some butts in the seats....... although you'd just have a bunch of smashed people.

The Timbers used to have dollar beer night...... and it was pretty fun to sit behind the opposing goalie and yell drunken trash talk at him.
 
SlyPokerDog said:
Some of you are making the assumption that Griner will be treated as well in Russia as she would be in an American prison.

Yes, what she did was dumb but the punishment for that shouldn't be sexual and physical assaults for 9 years.

Bring her home along with the rest of the Americans being held in Russia.
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She broke laws in another country. She's a convicted drug smuggler under their laws and their judicial system. She's worked and lived in Russia for 7-8 years already and should have known that Marijuana is not legal in that country.

I don't know how prisons are in Russia, but in the US Prisons, it seems people are already sexually and physically assaulted in US prisons anyway. Hence all the "I hope he gets raped in prison" comments when someone is put in jail.
 
EL PRESIDENTE said:
Nba is more than 8x more popular than WNBA
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And there are also more NBA players. And when the NBA started there wasn't a dominant league it had to compete with for ratings. If there had been the NBA probably would have folded.

If we want the WNBA to be healthy we'll have to invest in it. That is beneficial to the NBA as well.

I would submit that paying WNBA players like garbage men isn't the best way to make it a competitive league.
 
Phatguysrule said:
And there are also more NBA players. And when the NBA started there wasn't a dominant league it had to compete with for ratings. If there were the NBA probably would have folded.

If we want the WNBA to be healthy we'll have to invest in it. That is beneficial to the NBA as well.

I would submit that paying WNBA players like garbage men isn't the best way to make it a competitive league.
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Garbage men are an integral and valuable part of daily life and living in society. They work hard and do a gross job most wouldn't want to do. I don't know why you have to denigrate them like that.

The WNBA players play a sport for people's entertainment. And lose money doing so.
 
EL PRESIDENTE said:
Garbage men are an integral and valuable part of daily life and living in society. They work hard and do a gross job most wouldn't want to do. I don't know why you have to denigrate them like that.

The WNBA players play a sport for people's entertainment. And lose money doing so.
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I'm not denigrating them. But thousands of people don't come to watch garbage men collect the trash.

As bad as WNBA attendance is, they still get thousands of butts in the seats for every game. And nationally televised games.

And garbage men mostly just drive around and push a button while the truck dumps the load. Their job isn't all that gross at all.

There is a difference in lifestyle expectation between being a celebrity (Profesional sports certainly fit celebrity status) and being a garbage man. Or even a machinist. Or any other blue collar job.
 
Phatguysrule said:
I'm not denigrating them. But thousands of people don't come to watch garbage men collect the trash.

As bad as WNBA attendance is, they still get thousands of butts in the seats for every game. And nationally televised games.

And garbage men mostly just drive around and push a button while the truck dumps the load. Their job isn't all that gross at all.

There is a difference in lifestyle expectation between being a celebrity (Profesional sports certainly fit celebrity status) and being a garbage man. Or even a machinist. Or any other blue collar job.
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We don't need to cater to celebrities to ensure they make a million dollars in a money losing business model that requires subsidies.
 
She pled guilty in a court where about 98% are convicted after being advised no deal could be made until trial so called complete.
 
EL PRESIDENTE said:
We don't need to cater to celebrities to ensure they make a million dollars in a money losing business model that requires subsidies.
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If we want the WNBA to be healthy it will require further investment.

Having more female fans would be good for the NBA as well. Making the WNBA is among the best ways to do that. And paying the players more than other countries would be another.

They recently had a management shakeup, so I'd also give that a few years to show some returns before getting too excited about new management.
 
Phatguysrule said:
If we want the WNBA to be healthy it will require further investment.

Having more female fans would be good for the NBA as well. Making the WNBA is among the best ways to do that. And paying the players more than other countries would be another.

They recently had a management shakeup, so I'd also give that a few years to show some returns before getting too excited about new management.
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If they really wanted the WNBA to be healthy, the investment would need to be in the league marketing, management and visibility, not in Player Salaries.

Aren't the best female basketball players already in the US and in the WNBA already?

Why not blame big companies like NIKE and ADIDAS for not making a female line of shoes then? The Air Ionescu or what not.
 
Phatguysrule said:
If we want the WNBA to be healthy it will require further investment.

Having more female fans would be good for the NBA as well. Making the WNBA is among the best ways to do that. And paying the players more than other countries would be another.

They recently had a management shakeup, so I'd also give that a few years to show some returns before getting too excited about new management.
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And you can likely extend the season some if they were being paid more. I believe now it is structured as such so that they can play overseas for that money, hence the 3 month season. That wouldn't be necessary.
 
I also think the WNBA should be considered or viewed as a part of the NBA, so it's not one separate organization "propping up" another that loses money, it's more in line with, say, the Oregon Ducks propping up Washington State.
 
EL PRESIDENTE said:
If they really wanted the WNBA to be healthy, the investment would need to be in the league marketing, management and visibility, not in Player Salaries.

Aren't the best female basketball players already in the US and in the WNBA already?

Why not blame big companies like NIKE and ADIDAS for not making a female line of shoes then? The Air Ionescu or what not.
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This isn't a blame thing. It's an opportunity thing.

And Nike does a lot for girls sports. Our HS girls get free shoes every year from Nike. They provided us with 100 free basketballs a few years ago, etc. And they do that for a lot of sports.

But yeah, for sure, I'd welcome NIKE contributing to the WNBA.
 
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A legit streaming platform needs to happen for both leagues asap. I'd love to watch soccer style compressed games that show the highlights, but make you feel like you've watched the whole game.
 
RR7 said:
I also think the WNBA should be considered or viewed as a part of the NBA.
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So, how do you propose doing that? I think the WNBA has been promoted just fine. They're legit.
 
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