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are you happy that chauncey billups got the job

  • yes

    Votes: 80 59.7%

  • no

    Votes: 10 7.5%

  • yes, but he was not my first choice

    Votes: 19 14.2%

  • meh, im indifferent

    Votes: 25 18.7%
  • Total voters
    134
SlyPokerDog said:
How do you know Olshey didn't hire more than one company and go with the report he liked best?
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We don't. But considering the DA (contacted or not) basically said there's not a lot there, there.

So this is just noise for the sake of those who want to make noise
 
julius said:
We don't. But considering the DA (contacted or not) basically said there's not a lot there, there.

So this is just noise for the sake of those who want to make noise
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Exactly this. So nothing was found that casts any further dirt on Billups, so instead we should shift our focus to the fact that the investigator they hired holds conservative views? I mean most of the tweets cited in that reddit post are pretty standard conservative fare - retweeted a National Review story, and Dan Crenshaw -the Navy Seal turned Texas congressman. Oh and he retweeted some mugshots of some of our local anarchists - which if you ask me should be spread far and wide.
 
julius said:
We don't. But considering the DA (contacted or not) basically said there's not a lot there, there.

So this is just noise for the sake of those who want to make noise
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which is why it belongs in the OT section along with all the other conspiracy bullshit. “Sweeping things under the rug” fuck outta here no ones sweeping anything under the rug, there’s nothing else to discuss until something new about Billups comes out. You wanna complain about Olsheys handling, start a new thread. Last I checked his name wasn’t in the title of this one.
 
julius said:
Or maybe I'm not overreacting to things and realize this is a whole lot of noise
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I'm confused as to what it is you're arguing...?

are you saying that guy, and his firm, were not hired by the Blazers to do this investigation?
 
AmirIcon said:
Yes guys, Neil is about to get fired any day now and Trump is going to be reinstated as President right after.

So much of our base acts like the Fox News viewership. It's embarrassing. No other franchise is this hostile to its own team.

Mavs fans going nuts about the Jason Kidd hire, right? Oh...
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So how does a President of a team get up in front of the media, tell them that some things are bigger then basketball, so he assures everyone that there was a thorough investigation, when questioned about it he tells everyone they'll have to take his word for it, his word and then it turns out the investigation wasn't even close to being thorough. How does that team President retain his job? He said it was bigger than basketball, he assured everyone on his word that the investigation was thorough and he lied. How do you just get around that?

Chauncey is fine, it's Neil that has to go.

Oh and don't be condescending an NBA team can fire their President of Basketball Operations/GM any time they want and it happens all of the time... there is no such thing as reinstating a President of the United States.
 
Mr. Robot said:
okay, but sean highkin reports that he could get fired cause of how he handled this billups thing, investigation etc
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highkin also reported the team wasn’t in alignment on billups and literally 24 hours later he gets hired. Mans not plugged in and it’s obvious what his recent little crusade is REALLY about. Same with that Deckard clown.
 
illmatic99 said:
it would be shocking to me if they have not lineup up potential replacement candidates already.

then again, the general feeling of incompetence i get from mcgowan et al prolly reflects in their preparedness.
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Becky Hammon is looking pretty good right now
 
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hey, im just saying what the guy said

i really dont uderstand some people, front office doesnt have to say anything if they dont want to, its none of their (fans) business

there is no proof billups raped that woman, so just let it go, whys that hard thing to do...
 
Mr. Robot said:
hey, im just saying what the guy said

i really dont uderstand some people, front office doesnt have to say anything if they dont want to, its none of their (fans) business

there is no proof billups raped that woman, so just let it go, whys that hard thing to do...
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It is the fans business. Without the fans the team is nothing. No fans, no money, no team.
 
julius said:
We don't. But considering the DA (contacted or not) basically said there's not a lot there, there.

So this is just noise for the sake of those who want to make noise
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BlazerBeav said:
Exactly this. So nothing was found that casts any further dirt on Billups, so instead we should shift our focus to the fact that the investigator they hired holds conservative views? I mean most of the tweets cited in that reddit post are pretty standard conservative fare - retweeted a National Review story, and Dan Crenshaw -the Navy Seal turned Texas congressman. Oh and he retweeted some mugshots of some of our local anarchists - which if you ask me should be spread far and wide.
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I don't get how the point can get missed more completely. You know that information from the DA not because of the nonexistent thorough investigation that Neil said was bigger than basketball and told everyone to take his word for. You know that information because journalists went in after the fact and did the thorough investigation themselves. We did not hire Chauncey with that info. The DA's office told the reporters that reported that information that they hadn't been contacted by anyone before that. So don't try to make this about politics. It's not at all about politics. Plain and simple it's about the fact that Neil's word means absolutely nothing anymore. That's it. How do you get around that?
 
Mr. Robot said:
hey, im just saying what the guy said

i really dont uderstand some people, front office doesnt have to say anything if they dont want to, its none of their (fans) business

there is no proof billups raped that woman, so just let it go, whys that hard thing to do...
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They would have been better off not saying anything but Neil did. Neil said that they did a thorough investigation because some things are bigger than basketball, when asked about the investigation he said that everyone would have to take his word for it and it turns out the investigation was not thorough at all.

So yeah, I guess he could have just put out a press release that said we hired Chauncey and we feel good about it and told the press to do their own investigation if they want. He didn't do that though... he said the investigation was thorough, to take his word for it but the investigation was far far from thorough and the journalists have shown that now.

So now his word is no good about something he defined as being bigger than basketball. So if he can't come through on something bigger than basketball how can he have his job in basketball?
 
Chris Craig said:
Becky Hammon is looking pretty good right now
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meh, im generally OK with the Billups hire and want to see what he can do, but the hiring process was horrific. i've moved past Becky after hearing from our insiders here.
 
Scalma said:
background checks are no ones business except the employers.
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You're right but when Olshey made a show of it and promised that it was so thorough because some things are bigger than basketball and then the press proved that Olshey's promise was a lie... it no longer became about the background check or the employee being checked.

It's now just about the fact that Olshey has been proven to be a liar... that's it.
 
Strenuus said:
Damned if you do damned if you don't.
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im not opposed to firing olshey, but not for the reason some fans want

however it goes, i just dont want to see chauncey billups getting fired and it makes no sense to go after neil olshey, but not chauncey billups or even ownership
 
IMO, there's no neat solution to this whole mess. Firing Olshey right now would put Billups in the wholly untenable position of being the cause of Olshey's firing, but expected to carry on as head coach under a new GM. Firing Chauncey, when he's done absolutely nothing wrong with respect to getting this job, would look absolutely bush league and would taint the Blazers' reputation for years. I expect that Olshey is living on borrowed time, but he's either going to have to go of his own volition or the team is going to have to wait awhile until there's enough time passed that he can be fired without taking Billups down.
 
blazerkor said:
You're right but when Olshey made a show of it and promised that it was so thorough because some things are bigger than basketball and then the press proved that Olshey's promise was a lie... it no longer became about the background check or the employee being checked.

It's now just about the fact that Olshey has been proven to be a liar... that's it.
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Article was too long for my ADD. Can you please explain what wasn't done... that should have been?
 
blazerkor said:
You're right but when Olshey made a show of it and promised that it was so thorough because some things are bigger than basketball and then the press proved that Olshey's promise was a lie... it no longer became about the background check or the employee being checked.

It's now just about the fact that Olshey has been proven to be a liar... that's it.
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Your conclusion that it was a "lie" is based on what, the reports that the lady, her attorney, and the prosecutor weren't contacted by the investigator? I'm not sure that's evidence of a lie. I think background checks are usually done on a basis of public records rather than going back to people involved in the case whose stories may change over time. I would think it would be pretty easy to find in the records information that was stated by the former prosecutor that pretty much exonerates Chauncey of having been present during the "rape" portion of the evening. Did anyone ask the woman, her attorney or the former prosecutor if ESPN or Disney ever contacted them in the past about Billups?
 
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