Notice Chauncey Billups new Portland Trail Blazers head coach

[Hoopguru]

IMO, there's no neat solution to this whole mess. Firing Olshey right now would put Billups in the wholly untenable position of being the cause of Olshey's firing, but expected to carry on as head coach under a new GM. Firing Chauncey, when he's done absolutely nothing wrong with respect to getting this job, would look absolutely bush league and would taint the Blazers' reputation for years. I expect that Olshey is living on borrowed time, but he's either going to have to go of his own volition or the team is going to have to wait awhile until there's enough time passed that he can be fired without taking Billups down.

thats the way it has to be if he doesn't resign. imo

 

[Hoopguru]

How do you really know what true with the media anymore.
With people spending lives on forums and internet its like wildfire when something juicy comes out. And so much of it is speculation, conjecture, rumors, rumors and of course opinions. No wonder organizations are skeptical of reporters and tabloids.

 

[Hoopguru]

Becky Hammon is looking pretty good right now

Not to me. I hope Chauncey has a spectacular career here and He and Neil fulfill Dames dream of a championship here.

 

[calvin natt]

I read that OPB article twice just because after reading it once, then reading posts in here I thought for sure I missed something. So I read again. I am not sure why people have their heels stuck in the ground so firmly. Some people were contacted some weren’t, some are dead or have Alzheimer’s or wouldn’t respond and so on. Could they not do a thorough investigation if they didn’t speak with everyone? I think they could especially when people have been investigating and interviewing people about this off and on for two decades. What more is there to unearth? Like everything else people had an initial opinion and will never change their mind.

 

[Hoopguru]

I read that OPB article twice just because after reading it once, then reading posts in here I thought for sure I missed something. So I read again. I am not sure why people have their heels stuck in the ground so firmly. Some people were contacted some weren’t, some are dead or have Alzheimer’s or wouldn’t respond and so on. Could they not do a thorough investigation if they didn’t speak with everyone? I think they could especially when people have been investigating and interviewing people about this off and on for two decades. What more is there to unearth? Like everything else people had an initial opinion and will never change their mind.

bingo...people by nature like gossip.
gos·sip
noun

1. casual or unconstrained conversation or reports about other people, typically involving details that are not confirmed as being true.
   "he became the subject of much local gossip"

 

[Hoopguru]

Or maybe its good old "Chat & Chew" or "stitch and bitch"

 

[tester551]

IMO, there's no neat solution to this whole mess. Firing Olshey right now would put Billups in the wholly untenable position of being the cause of Olshey's firing, but expected to carry on as head coach under a new GM. Firing Chauncey, when he's done absolutely nothing wrong with respect to getting this job, would look absolutely bush league and would taint the Blazers' reputation for years. I expect that Olshey is living on borrowed time, but he's either going to have to go of his own volition or the team is going to have to wait awhile until there's enough time passed that he can be fired without taking Billups down.

Will September be sufficient time to fire Olshey?

It will be after the FA period. I expect that we'll materially have the exact same squad (minus Powell). The marquee acquisition will be someone one the "Bjelica/Theis/Alec Burks" skill level. All the other moves will be minimum contract guys. What a FANTASTIC off-season...

 

[B-Roy]

This is how the Mavs "handled" Kidd's situation today.

Refer to 34:22

 

[tykendo]

I'm looking forward to Neil making some good moves, Chauncey coaching our Blazers up, and Dame leading them on the most incredible ride to win the Championship.

 

[Chris Craig]

This is how the Mavs "handled" Kidd's situation today.

Refer to 34:22

A lot better than the Blazers

 

[e_blazer]

This is how the Mavs "handled" Kidd's situation today.

Refer to 34:22

You think Olshey could have gotten away with saying he did the investigation himself?

 

[B-Roy]

You think Olshey could have gotten away with saying he did the investigation himself?

No, but at the very least they didn't brush off the issue. They certainly didn't cut someone off when they asked a question that they felt was "already answered". The answer at 34:22 is way more in depth than what we got out of Olshey, and while I don't think it would have satisfied anyone in the Portland media, I still think they addressed the questions better than Olshey did.

It's a bit different though. There's no investigations needed since Kidd is convicted.

 

[tykendo]

This is how the Mavs "handled" Kidd's situation today.

Refer to 34:22

Didn't seem like They wanted to dwell on the subject very long in comparison to the Portland Media. Yes man answers is what i saw, including the CEO who said she is a Domestic Violence Survivor. She basically said she's satisfied & we've moved on. Where was their Dia to bring down the Holy Wrath on Kidd and the CEO?

 

[Chris Craig]

You think Olshey could have gotten away with saying he did the investigation himself?

Maybe not

The Mavs actually faced this head on and answered all the questions asked. The Blazers gave a quick prepared speech and then blocked further questions on the matter. One franchise was transparent. The other was not.

 

[Mediocre Man]

Didn't seem like They wanted to dwell on the subject very long in comparison to the Portland Media. Yes man answers is what i saw, including the CEO who said she is a Domestic Violence Survivor. She basically said she's satisfied & we've moved on. Where was their Dia to bring down the Holy Wrath on Kidd and the CEO?

Kidd was actually charged with something too

 

[tykendo]

No, but at the very least they didn't brush off the issue. They certainly didn't cut someone off when they asked a question that they felt was "already answered". The answer at 34:22 is way more in depth than what we got out of Olshey, and while I don't think it would have satisfied anyone in the Portland media, I still think they addressed the questions better than Olshey did.

It's a bit different though. There's no investigations needed since Kidd is convicted.

I call B.S. She acted like he had never done anything and as long as he doesn't misbehave again, we're all good. That was the most vanilla answer back i've ever heard.

 

[tykendo]

Everyone's butthurt over the PR person interrupting a question that was ALREADY ANSWERED. Open your ears and move on. This Dallas conference was an old fashioned political spin doctor fest, with nothing said. We have a ZERO tolerance policy, but it only applies when you actually work for us. That chit happened long ago. He's sorry, we're good.

 

[e_blazer]

Maybe not

The Mavs actually faced this head on and answered all the questions asked. The Blazers gave a quick prepared speech and then blocked further questions on the matter. One franchise was transparent. The other was not.

I don't agree. The Blazers weren't completely transparent due to Olshey's stupid "proprietary" comment and the public affairs lady cutting off questions, but the Mavs basically didn't do an investigation at all.

 

[e_blazer]

No, but at the very least they didn't brush off the issue. They certainly didn't cut someone off when they asked a question that they felt was "already answered". The answer at 34:22 is way more in depth than what we got out of Olshey, and while I don't think it would have satisfied anyone in the Portland media, I still think they addressed the questions better than Olshey did.

It's a bit different though. There's no investigations needed since Kidd is convicted.

You think that one time that he admitted to hitting his wife is the only time he was abusive to her or other women?

 

[Hoopguru]

I think Chauncey's reputation, class act conduct, and respect he's earned, is what validates him as a fine hire. Now he gets to instill his basketball knowledge, insights & schemes as a head coach, of a storied franchise! Rip City

 

[B-Roy]

You think that one time that he admitted to hitting his wife is the only time he was abusive to her or other women?

Probably not, but there's less ambiguity. He's a confirmed wife-beater, regardless of how many times it happened.

 

[blazerkor]

I don't agree. The Blazers weren't completely transparent due to Olshey's stupid "proprietary" comment and the public affairs lady cutting off questions, but the Mavs basically didn't do an investigation at all.

Here's the problem, when you say thorough investigation, people think you will actually talk to the people who were involved because that is thorough and everything else was public record that Neil could have looked up from his laptop.

So, yeah when Neil puts it on his word that he knows that some things are bigger than basketball and they had to be sure about it and so they did a very thorough investigation... that was a lie. It wasn't just Neil putting a little spin on it, it was a lie because if a reporter was able to go and get statements from the people involved how could our investigation (not a background check a "very thorough investigation") have been considered what Neil claimed and told everyone to take his word that it was.

It was a lie... I'm not dogmatically attached to that opinion but someone is going to have to tell me how that investigation was thorough when a couple of journalists just completely blew it up.

 

[blazerkor]

I think Chauncey's reputation, class act conduct, and respect he's earned, is what validates him as a fine hire. Now he gets to instill his basketball knowledge, insights & schemes as a head coach, of a storied franchise! Rip City

You know what I totally agree with you. It's not Chauncey and it's not even the hiring process that makes me think that Olshey and definitely not Chauncey, needs to be fired. It was the misrepresentation of the hiring process that is fireable. If Olshey would have got up there and said we feel comfortable with Chauncey and how we looked into it, I would think that they were irresponsible for not talking to everyone they could because that actually covers Chauncey's ass, not just the team's but I wouldn't think Olshey had ruined his reputation.

Olshey however had to get up there, make a big deal about the thing being bigger than basketball, state that he knew everything was consensual because they did a very thorough investigation through a third party. Then when asked about it he told everyone that they would have to take his word for it that it was thorough. He put his reputation on the line and three weeks later reporters had done an actual thorough investigation and Olshey is left with his word meaning nothing... about something bigger than the responsibilities he should now be relieved of.

 

[blazerkor]

Does anyone know when Coach Billups can start working with his team to start implementing his ideas for improvement.

I'm pretty sure he can work with guys that are under contract if they come to the facility for workouts if they want. There aren't limitations like last year.

 

[BBert]

I like the Billups hire and I want Neil out now. I actually think it's going to happen this time. You don't get to fuck up all of the things you just listed, nail the one other thing you listed and skate. That's the way it can work with some things but right now he's created a PR nightmare for the team but it's actually not a nightmare if they fire him because he's put it all on himself.

I think the one thing that would calm the storm to the greatest degree possible is firing the guy responsible for the storm.

 

[tykendo]

I think the one thing that would calm the storm to the greatest degree possible is firing the guy responsible for the storm.

But doesn't that potential move imply that Billups should never been hired and that he is guilty whether convicted or not, and not deserving of the Coaching position. I just think it opens an even bigger hole.

 

[e_blazer]

Here's the problem, when you say thorough investigation, people think you will actually talk to the people who were involved because that is thorough and everything else was public record that Neil could have looked up from his laptop.

So, yeah when Neil puts it on his word that he knows that some things are bigger than basketball and they had to be sure about it and so they did a very thorough investigation... that was a lie. It wasn't just Neil putting a little spin on it, it was a lie because if a reporter was able to go and get statements from the people involved how could our investigation (not a background check a "very thorough investigation") have been considered what Neil claimed and told everyone to take his word that it was.

It was a lie... I'm not dogmatically attached to that opinion but someone is going to have to tell me how that investigation was thorough when a couple of journalists just completely blew it up.

Not to belittle your point, but I just don't think that it would be a normal business practice for a major corporation doing an investigation on a potential employee's background to go back and try to interview the principal parties to something that was the subject of a civil legal settlement, nearly a quarter century ago, that undoubtedly included nondisclosure agreements. Neil absolutely should have discussed more clearly exactly what was done and not tried to have cut off reasonable questions, but I don't think that you can state that what they did do was a "lie" simply because they didn't try to talk to certain principal parties.

 

[Scalma]

Another L for dork boy

 

[BBert]

Yes. Fire Neil & keep Billups.

The timing isn't ideal, but I'd rather have someone else orchestrating the off-season than Neil. We can use the lead scout and Patterson to get us through FA.

And hire Bones (No not that one. The one who played at OSU.)

 

[BBert]

okay, but sean highkin reports that he could get fired cause of how he handled this billups thing, investigation etc

I'm reporting that monkeys could fly out of my butt.

Full report at 11.