Notice Chauncey Billups new Portland Trail Blazers head coach

[1 Eye Jack]

So CJ is gone?

Wouldn’t surprise me a bit if Billups wants a shot with CJ and Lillard.

 

[julius]

We just had a president who has been accused of sexual misconduct at least 26 times and nearly half the country worship him, I think one allegation from 22 years ago, I which Billups wasn’t charged shouldn’t hold him back.

That's different, the President was white and all those women were ugly. Duh.

 

[TBpup]

Wouldn’t surprise me a bit if Billups wants a shot with CJ and Lillard.

Wouldn't surprise me either. It is wishful thinking. Neil may very well think this is the 'major' change that "it wasn't the roster" needed.

 

[Mediocre Man]

There was no accusations against solely Billups. It was at a party against a group of people with the alleged victim blacked out. The alleged victim received a financial gain. It's an isolated incident.

People can react however they want. I find the Blazers and Billups conduct 100% reasonable.

Great, and that’s your prerogative. Just like it is other people prerogative to think his story smells like complete bullshit

 

[julius]

OJ fled police, was arrested, charged and tried for a crime.

How is Billups situation comparable?

I think the point was that no one was found guilty of their murders, yet someone clearly did it.

I don't think for 100% certainty, we can say he raped her. Something happened, and only a handful of people know for certain.

It could have been consensual and things got weird.

It could have been that she blacked out and they sexually assaulted her.

It could be that they had a sexual liaison, and it escalated into an assault.

It could have been that she was consenting to the sex, they all had been drinking/doing illicit drugs, she passed out/blacked out and doesn't remember it happening and when she woke up/sobered up, regretted that it happened.

The issue is, the rape kit that was administered indicated rape was likely (I believe). I'm not sure how rape can appeared to have happened, if it didn't (I'm not an expert, I mean).

 

[Mediocre Man]

I totaly agree, but Billups was also hired by the Clippers and ESPN and probably had several other Jobs and we don't know what happened on that night, even Jody has a questionable past. I'm curious why these people don't have the same energy towards her?

My guess is with most didn’t or still don’t know about the harassment allegations. Also, it’s much easier to say nay to an employee than an owner. Again though, that’s just a guess

 

[crandc]

Not saying Billups is just like OJ Simpson. Just pointing out the absurdity of saying nothing happened because no one was convicted.

 

[Mediocre Man]

We just had a president who has been accused of sexual misconduct at least 26 times and nearly half the country worship him, I think one allegation from 22 years ago, I which Billups wasn’t charged shouldn’t hold him back.

No, it shouldn’t, but remember the other half of the country didn’t worship him. And WAY over half of the damn Portland area didn’t

 

[mook]

I guess we view this differently. I don't see anything here that should be brought up against Billups 24 years later. No charges or clear accusations are against solely Billups.

That word "solely" is an odd word to include. Like if he were part of a gang rape it's not as big a deal.

Anyway, I absolutely loved those Billups Pistons teams.

And aside from this allegation I like his overall story. Third overall pick, bounced to five teams before finding his home in Detroit. He was a journeyman, a top draft pick, a young flameout, a hard nosed defensive role player, a star on a championship team, a guy who beat Shaq's Lakers, a vet who lingered in the league all the way to the age of 37.

He's kind of done it all and has something in his life experience he can relate to practically every guy on our team. It's a player's league, so having a coach who understands and can communicate with his players is critical.

I hate experimenting with an unproven head coach, but if you are going to roll the dice he's a pretty good gamble.

 

[Tince]

he gave hammon press, increasing her profile, and threw his agent a bone with MDA. Wouldn’t say it was nothing.

I think this is exactly how Olshey would justify the dog & pony show in his mind as well.

I propped up a woman to be closer to being the first head coach and I continued to make my agent happy...

 

[Rastapopoulos]

Allegations are just allegations. They are not proof. A huge problem with society today is that allegations are treated like fact. I allege that you, @BonesJones love to wear purple women's underwear. Doesn't mean you do. There's a difference between what Kidd did - proven - and what was alleged at Chauncey. And anyway, what happened to forgiveness and second chances?

https://www.si.com/nba/trailblazers...y-billups-trail-blazers?utm_source=reddit.com

 

[twobullz]

No, it shouldn’t, but remember the other half of the country didn’t worship him. And WAY over half of the damn Portland area didn’t

True but most didn't like him because of his policies, not because of those charges.

 

[Titan]

Hammon seemed great because she was Pop's right hand person, but hiring her because she's a woman is not a reason.

Chauncey seems like such a good fit - former PG, championship pedigree, defensive minded, respected, affable, high basketball IQ, great relationships with Dame and Neil...

This

 

[illmatic99]

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.de...auncey-billups-says-his-family-tops-fame/amp/

This is the Billups I knew. The model citizen, the father of three girls. The NBA even gave him a citizen of the yr award in his playing days.

How did his allegation stuff get unearthed the moment is name came up in portland

 

[Titan]

Sam Cassell isn't much to look at.

Skinwalkers are real.

 

[Mediocre Man]

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.de...auncey-billups-says-his-family-tops-fame/amp/

This is the Billups I knew. The model citizen, the father of three girls. The NBA even gave him a citizen of the yr award in his playing days.

How did his allegation stuff get unearthed the moment is name came up in portland

Same thing happened when he went to ESPN and the Clippers. You just weren’t invested in him then. That’s my guess anyway?

 

[James lamphear]

Allegations are just allegations. They are not proof. A huge problem with society today is that allegations are treated like fact. I allege that you, @BonesJones love to wear purple women's underwear. Doesn't mean you do. There's a difference between what Kidd did - proven - and what was alleged at Chauncey. And anyway, what happened to forgiveness and second chances?

Your right allegations is just allegations until you to pay for them allegations to go away.

 

[Mediocre Man]

I’m still not 100% convinced this is going to happen. Enough noise and this gets vetoed quickly by either Blazer brass or Billups if he decides he doesn’t want to deal with small town Portland.

 

[illmatic99]

Same thing happened when he went to ESPN and the Clippers. You just weren’t invested in him then. That’s my guess anyway?

Did it really? Must have missed it

 

[Mediocre Man]

Your right allegations is just allegations until you to pay for them allegations to go away.

Settlements for high profile individuals to make bad pr go away doesn’t mean guilty. It’s a bad look, but that’s all it is

 

[James lamphear]

Settlements for high profile individuals to make bad pr go away doesn’t mean guilty. It’s a bad look, but that’s all it is

Then he shouldn't have paid and right there makes him people think if didn't do anything wrong why pay. I don't want happen that night if guilty or not guilty but paying to get rid of allegations will make people thinking that he might of done something wrong. Believe me this will hit the ticket sales at the start and some season ticket holder.

 

[Fairly-Hard]

Where's the police dog when you need him?

Last seen at a poker game?

 

[julius]

I’m still not 100% convinced this is going to happen. Enough noise and this gets vetoed quickly by either Blazer brass or Billups if he decides he doesn’t want to deal with small town Portland.

I'm kinda thinking/hoping that happens too. But that'll make the blazers look worse. Actually, they'll look bad no matter what they do, even if they don't hire Chauncy and somehow hire Becky. It'll just be "why didn't you go with her first!?"

 

[JoshuaHall]

Then he shouldn't have paid and right there makes him people think if didn't do anything wrong why pay. I don't want happen that night if guilty or not guilty but paying to get rid of allegations will make people thinking that he might of done something wrong. Believe me this will hit the ticket sales at the start and some season ticket holder.

It won’t hurt business, at all.
And clearly you don’t know the history of the justice system for black men.

 

[julius]

Settlements for high profile individuals to make bad pr go away doesn’t mean guilty. It’s a bad look, but that’s all it is

It's easier to do that than to fight it, and they just hope it doesn't make the news.

 

[Stevenson]

https://www.si.com/nba/trailblazers...y-billups-trail-blazers?utm_source=reddit.com

My point exactly. "It's pertinent to stress that Billups denies engaging in any non-consensual sex acts with his alleged victim. And unlike Kidd, he was never charged with a crime..."

 

[Orion Bailey]

Then he shouldn't have paid and right there makes him people think if didn't do anything wrong why pay. I don't want happen that night if guilty or not guilty but paying to get rid of allegations will make people thinking that he might of done something wrong. Believe me this will hit the ticket sales at the start and some season ticket holder.

not at all. Anyone who gives their tickets up will have them snatched up by someone else.

This'll all be an old story real quick if chaunceys pr team does the right thing.
Of thsi was brought up in the past you refer to the comments of the past and state as much “ please refer to my statements the last time you guys brought this up…” and simply ask for the next question.

And if we come out of the gates winning, itll be old news ten games in.

 

[Fairly-Hard]

I really don’t think the local sports media is going to make a big deal about his past.

I guess if you figure John Canzano and the Oregonian not the local sports media you would be correct.

But-

"Sex-assault survivor Brenda Tracy is in disbelief today. Maybe you will be, too, after you read the details of the troubling allegations pointed at Billups and a couple of his teammates in November of 1997.



A night out at a comedy club ended with a woman calling police and getting a rape kit at the hospital. The exam revealed “injuries to her throat, cervix, and rectum, along with bruising on her back consistent with someone being dragged across a rug. Sperm had been retrieved from her vagina.”

https://www.oregonlive.com/sports/j...y-billups-is-all-wrong-for-trail-blazers.html

 

[Fitz303]

Same thing happened when he went to ESPN and the Clippers. You just weren’t invested in him then. That’s my guess anyway?

No it didn't. This hasn't been brought up at all until Portland got involved. These are the articles that I found on Billups just last year on the Clippers hire. I TRIED to find anything about the allegations from 24 years ago in any article. Maybe someone else can dig it up, but I can't find a single mention. Just from this fanbase. I wish Portland fans could just be happy that this franchise just got a hell of a talented ex basketball player who seems primed to be a very god coach.

https://clipperholics.com/2020/10/20/la-clippers-adding-larry-drew-chauncey-billups-assistants/
This is the type of writing that was out there about Billups last year: "Since his retirement from the NBA in 2014, there’s been an expectation that Billups would find himself wearing a suit on the sidelines one day, and that time has come. As the point guard of the 2004 NBA Champion Detroit Pistons, Chauncey has seen a team that wins through hard-nosed defense and playing together. We can only hope that he brings that same sort of leadership to the Clippers as a coach."

https://basketballforever.com/2020/10/15/clippers-hire-tyronn-lue-as-head-coach
"Good news is Lue could be getting some good minds on the bench. It was also reported that it looks as if Chauncey Billups will be his lead assistant. Which would be a tremendous hire for Lue, as Billups is very defensive oriented and thought by many as one of the highest IQ players of his time."

Even this more recent article from the Boston Herald makes no mention of it, while simultaneously making mention of Kidd's past. They mention Billups as everyone's favorite in Boston (which was very accurate) - https://www.bostonherald.com/2021/06/03/0603-bh-s-celtics/
"He’s everyone’s favorite candidate, and maybe even overdue for a head coaching position despite only one season (2020-21) as an assistant on Ty Lue’s staff. But he fits the current ideal of a former player — the 2004 NBA Finals MVP — who can command the respect of a locker room immediately."

https://www.freep.com/story/sports/...stons-los-angeles-clippers-ty-lue/3668045001/
https://sircharlesincharge.com/2020/09/13/indiana-pacers-chauncey-billups-time/ - Pacers site wanting to hire Billups
https://thunderousintentions.com/2020/10/29/okc-thunder-chauncey-billups-candidate/ - Clippers site wanting to hire Billups
This is the ONLY article that I found that made any mention whatsoever of Billups' past - https://pelicandebrief.com/2020/09/04/new-orleans-pelicans-chauncey-billups/2/

 

[Fairly-Hard]

not at all. Anyone who gives their tickets up will have them snatched up by someone else.

This'll all be an old story real quick if chaunceys pr team does the right thing.
Of thsi was brought up in the past you refer to the comments of the past and state as much “ please refer to my statements the last time you guys brought this up…” and simply ask for the next question.

And if we come out of the gates winning, itll be old news ten games in.

But if he doesn't win here they will make him ride the RAPO TRAIN out of here.