CIA: Russia influenced the election

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Now you're really showing your youth and naivety. Folks of a certain age don't have the luxury of your smugness and glibness. You didn't grow up hunkering under desks, wondering if it REALLY was a drill this time. Nuclear terror as a child is not conducive to the current older generation trusting the Russians. Or much of anything really. Make all the fun you want of guys like me. But you didn't live through that shit in any way shape or form. It formed and hardened our opinions and fears. Smart money says to keep them at arms length and under a microscope at all times.....their government is NOT our friend....and never will be. But keep on laughing.......
Delusional
 
So our only choice is to suck Russia's dick or go to war with them?
 
This was ambiguous to the trump fanboys for awhile, but now that he agrees with it, do y'all still disagree?
 
This was ambiguous to the trump fanboys for awhile, but now that he agrees with it, do y'all still disagree?

There's still no evidence made public that the Russians were the hackers or that they provided the emails to WikiLeaks.

Trump has said maybe it's Russia, but we're under cyber attack from all sorts of people/places. He's right on that.

Note: I've said it could be Russia all along, just that the government is making accusations and not providing convincing proof.
 
There's still no evidence made public that the Russians were the hackers or that they provided the emails to WikiLeaks.

Trump has said maybe it's Russia, but we're under cyber attack from all sorts of people/places. He's right on that.

Note: I've said it could be Russia all along, just that the government is making accusations and not providing convincing proof.
What if they have the proof but it's classified? Many in the know seem to be certain that it is Russia. And Trump's admission that it could be Russia is about as much of a walk back that you should expect from someone that loves to double down.
 
Yep, just like people saying they'll NEVER be our friends. Saw that recently, hmmmm
They've never been our friends in my life time and absolutely nothing I've seen yet indicates they're going to be our friends in the foreseeable future. But if you want to play the Pollyanna role, have at it. I'd actually prefer your hugs and kisses scenario than my arms length scenario (which, BTW is light years from advocating for nuclear war). But keep on putting words in the mouths of others......
 
They've never been our friends in my life time and absolutely nothing I've seen yet indicates they're going to be our friends in the foreseeable future. But if you want to play the Pollyanna role, have at it. I'd actually prefer your hugs and kisses scenario than my arms length scenario (which, BTW is light years from advocating for nuclear war). But keep on putting words in the mouths of others......

But why do you want to go to war with Russia?
 
What if they have the proof but it's classified? Many in the know seem to be certain that it is Russia. And Trump's admission that it could be Russia is about as much of a walk back that you should expect from someone that loves to double down.

I guess we need another whistle blower to release this proof. There is no reason to classify ALL the proof. Any one bit of technical proof would do.

The report they made public is something of a joke. They accused the Russians of influencing the election by having RT (their newspaper) publish a story about Occupy Wall Street being about unhappy common people. Oh my! Seems to me they were just telling the truth.

And compared to the withering shitstorm unleashed by our press against Trump, RT was in the noise.
 
Look, this is stupid. Let's say you have fought with a neighbor and hate him. Then he sees you cheating on your wife and tells her. Is the fact that you hate him supposed to be an excuse?
 
I guess we need another whistle blower to release this proof. There is no reason to classify ALL the proof. Any one bit of technical proof would do.

The report they made public is something of a joke. They accused the Russians of influencing the election by having RT (their newspaper) publish a story about Occupy Wall Street being about unhappy common people. Oh my! Seems to me they were just telling the truth.

And compared to the withering shitstorm unleashed by our press against Trump, RT was in the noise.
Maybe the Russians invented the real Terminator Skynet?
 
They've never been our friends in my life time and absolutely nothing I've seen yet indicates they're going to be our friends in the foreseeable future. But if you want to play the Pollyanna role, have at it. I'd actually prefer your hugs and kisses scenario than my arms length scenario (which, BTW is light years from advocating for nuclear war). But keep on putting words in the mouths of others......
You said never, not me. I love them just for their dashcam videos on YouTube. We should be scared of them, they're badasses
 
Look, this is stupid. Let's say you have fought with a neighbor and hate him. Then he sees you cheating on your wife and tells her. Is the fact that you hate him supposed to be an excuse?
An excuse for what? Hugging him? I'd probably try to cheat with his wife. It's the American way....but I certainly wouldn't pull the trigger on him....or thank him.
 
Another reason this is dubious. The government didn't even have access to the DNC servers to do any forensic analysis.

http://thehill.com/policy/national-...-fbi-did-request-access-to-hacked-dnc-servers

Comey: DNC denied FBI's requests for access to hacked servers

The FBI requested direct access to the Democratic National Committee’s (DNC) hacked computer servers but was denied, Director James Comey told lawmakers on Tuesday.

The bureau made “multiple requests at different levels,” according to Comey, but ultimately struck an agreement with the DNC that a “highly respected private company” would get access and share what it found with investigators.

“We’d always prefer to have access hands-on ourselves if that’s possible,” Comey said, noting that he didn’t know why the DNC rebuffed the FBI’s request.
 
Speaking of which:

Obama, you're fired.

Clinton, you're fired and good riddance.
 
It is baffling to me how a conservative voter can call anyone else "elitist."

What kind of world is this.

Another reason this is dubious. The government didn't even have access to the DNC servers to do any forensic analysis.

http://thehill.com/policy/national-...-fbi-did-request-access-to-hacked-dnc-servers

Comey: DNC denied FBI's requests for access to hacked servers

The FBI requested direct access to the Democratic National Committee’s (DNC) hacked computer servers but was denied, Director James Comey told lawmakers on Tuesday.

The bureau made “multiple requests at different levels,” according to Comey, but ultimately struck an agreement with the DNC that a “highly respected private company” would get access and share what it found with investigators.

“We’d always prefer to have access hands-on ourselves if that’s possible,” Comey said, noting that he didn’t know why the DNC rebuffed the FBI’s request.

This.
 
There's a long list of $billionaires that are charitable.

Gates isn't the exception to any rule, though. When he was in charge of Micro$oft, he was all about making more and more money. The company was sued by the US government for practices that helped make him richer.

At some point, he had enough money and wanted to do something else with his life. This is true for plenty of other $billionaires. Bloomberg wanted to serve his city. John Kerry's wife is a $billionaire.

If Trump wants to make more money, he'd not want to be president to do so. He'd just take that $2B deal with Dubai. If anything, the presidency is obviously going to get in the way of his making as much money as possible. By definition: $400K salary and all his time spent vs. what he'd make running his business.
Translation...he's just a Denny Crane madcow kind of guy
 

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