CIA: Russia influenced the election

[Denny Crane]

 

[riverman]

To express opinions about an election process or result is pretty far from reacting to a personal insult or indicative of overtly hostile communications...sensationalize much? Denny, you've used this word to the point that it's rivaling Lamarcus Aldridge "you know" tag

 

[Denny Crane]

To express opinions about an election process or result is pretty far from reacting to a personal insult or indicative of overtly hostile communications...sensationalize much? Denny, you've used this word to the point that it's rivaling Lamarcus Aldridge "you know" tag

Nope. I'm not the one sensationalizing. Look at the tweets that are sensationalizing, and are inappropriately strong negative emotional response from a perceived insult.

 

[riverman]

Look at the tweets that are sensationalizing

I don't follow twitter...don't know why folks would want to for that very reason

 

[Denny Crane]

I don't follow twitter...don't know why folks would want to for that very reason

You don't have to follow twitter. The OT forum is littered with trash from there.

 

[e_blazer]

I'm only interested in the Russia story if someone can demonstrate that they somehow actually hacked into the election results and modified votes. Hacking emails is pretty much a norm these days. Anyone who puts into an email anything that they'd be embarrassed about being published on WikiLeaks or the New York Times is an idiot. I think the Dems learned that lesson the hard way big-time this year.

 

[riverman]

You don't have to follow twitter. The OT forum is littered with trash from there.

I always say, life is one long process of eliminating trash....I don't read through all the twitter posts or article links at all. Original thought is what will make America great again, not scrapbooking news...I'm really glad our founding fathers hashed the Constitution out without the internet to interfere

 

[magnifier661]

They rejected Clinton most everywhere but California. Especially in her "blue wall."

The popular vote BS is like saying the team that scores the most baskets in the Finals wins the series. Though it could have been 4-1 with the lone loss a blowout.

I like the analogy: The team got the most yards but lost the football game.

 

[barfo]

Nope. I'm not the one sensationalizing. Look at the tweets that are sensationalizing, and are inappropriately strong negative emotional response from a perceived insult.

One could certainly make the case that you were equally butthurt prior to the election as anyone here has been after the election. You cried nonstop about Clinton for months.

barfo

 

[Stevenson]

Trump and his pro-Russian, anti-CIA worldview verges on being treasonous.

(Only Trump could make me pro CIA. Jeez!)

 

[UncleCliffy'sDaddy]

Yeah he is.

They should have brought a case against Clinton in the first place. Politics kept them from doing the right thing.

So....you just made my argument. By your "explanation" the FBI is no more credible than the intelligence agencies. But because they didn't swing your way, you're butt hurt. Pot, meet kettle.......

 

[UncleCliffy'sDaddy]

Nope. I'm not the one sensationalizing. Look at the tweets that are sensationalizing, and are inappropriately strong negative emotional response from a perceived insult.

You don't have to follow twitter. The OT forum is littered with trash from there.

And look at the slanted crap you've posted for months excoriating HRC. I fail to see how that is any different from the stuff you call trash. We get it. You hate Clinton and wanted to see her fail, just like some of us loath Donny and want to see him fail. There is NO higher moral ground here Denny. And as you have schooled us endlessly ad nauseous, the only information sources that don't lie are the ones you believe in. The absolutely best part of this shit show is how desperate you Trumpniks are to be proven "right"....when "right" doesn't even exist. You'd rather the country go down in flames than to be wrong.....or have another Clinton in the White House. "Win" at any cost. At least the next 4 years will be entertaining, watching you all weave and dodge the bullets Donny's actions (or lack thereof) will be sending your way.......I'm sure the apologies for Trump are going to get even crazier and more outrageous as time goes on. I can't wait.......

 

[bodyman5000 and 1]

I like the analogy: The team got the most yards but lost the football game.

I think of it like this, in the NBA you can make 50 shots and score 100 points on 2 pointers. A team can beat you by only making 34 shots if they make all 3 pointers.

.......but we made more shots boooo hooo

 

[Rastapopoulos]

 

[Rastapopoulos]

(Only Trump could make me pro CIA. Jeez!)

See - he IS a uniter!

 

[Denny Crane]

One could certainly make the case that you were equally butthurt prior to the election as anyone here has been after the election. You cried nonstop about Clinton for months.

barfo

But I wasn't being needlessly offended.

You FAIL

 

[Denny Crane]

And look at the slanted crap you've posted for months excoriating HRC. I fail to see how that is any different from the stuff you call trash. We get it. You hate Clinton and wanted to see her fail, just like some of us loath Donny and want to see him fail. There is NO higher moral ground here Denny. And as you have schooled us endlessly ad nauseous, the only information sources that don't lie are the ones you believe in. The absolutely best part of this shit show is how desperate you Trumpniks are to be proven "right"....when "right" doesn't even exist. You'd rather the country go down in flames than to be wrong.....or have another Clinton in the White House. "Win" at any cost. At least the next 4 years will be entertaining, watching you all weave and dodge the bullets Donny's actions (or lack thereof) will be sending your way.......I'm sure the apologies for Trump are going to get even crazier and more outrageous as time goes on. I can't wait.......

She is a criminal, sorry. The FBI made a case against her, but wouldn't prosecute. That makes me right all along.

 

[Denny Crane]

So....you just made my argument. By your "explanation" the FBI is no more credible than the intelligence agencies. But because they didn't swing your way, you're butt hurt. Pot, meet kettle.......

LOL

The existence of the FBI investigation is fact.

The stream of scandals that that woman caused during her entire career is fact.

When anyone actually supported the woman, it only proves a bizarre willingness to overlook a career full of warmongering, incompetence, and political corruption in a too long career.

Trump has no political career to judge.

 

[Denny Crane]

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/12/democrats-donald-trump-232491

Democrats fear another Trump trouncing
Leaderless and lacking a strategy, top party officials worry they're not ready for Trump's first 100 days.

 

[barfo]

But I wasn't being needlessly offended.

Now you are just being butt hurt because you don't like being called butt hurt.

barfo

 

[riverman]

The best thing to come from this horrible election is that people with influence who were too comfortable got a huge wake up call.....I think we'll see more passion about transparency in govt than we've ever seen....I have no doubt this will be a time of radical change across the country.

 

[Denny Crane]

Now you are just being butt hurt because you don't like being called butt hurt.

barfo

Seems you are the one that's "needlessly offended."

The "needlessly" is the key word.

 

[stampedehero]

This Country faces a colossal tech failure linked with an entity from a long time rival Country. If it is a greasy faced kid or a sophisticated department, the bottom line is that our people screwed up because of their security negligence. This situation has become "Fubar" siphoned into a joint CIA/FBI investigation with Trump becoming a center point. Is Trump really clueless? These two agencies can trip and screw Trump as they wish. Trump has no idea what he is doing and getting into. He has not become a president and he has enemies in his own backyard. Only Jason Bourne could get out of this.

 

[stampedehero]

Jesus, it's like a Hillary election night party in here!

They all look like they injected powdered narcotics

 

[barfo]

Seems you are the one that's "needlessly offended."

Well, that sounds like something a butt hurt person such as yourself would say.

barfo

 

[Denny Crane]

http://www.newsweek.com/cia-trump-p...ileaks-clinton-spies-intelligence-iraq-530666

Updated | CIA veterans—none of them fans of Donald Trump–are urging caution about leaked allegations that Russia waged a secret campaign to put the New York Republican into the White House.

“I am not saying that I don't think Russia did this,” Nada Bakos, a top former CIA counterterrorism officer tells Newsweek, in a typical comment. “My main concern is that we will rush to judgment. The analysis needs to be cohesive and done the right way.”

Reports on the alleged Russian effort have been anything but cohesive, or complete. During a closed-door briefing to the House Intelligence Committee last week, a senior FBI counterintelligence official reportedly scoffed at the CIA’s conclusion that Russia had plotted to put Trump in office, calling the evidence “fuzzy” and “ambiguous.” Details of the meeting were leaked to The Washington Post.

Another former senior official, who said he was reluctant to go on the record on “something that has obviously been politicized,” tells Newsweekthat he, too, is wary of reports that CIA knows for certain that the Kremlin designed a hacking campaign with the specific goal of electing Trump, as opposed to just damaging Hillary Clinton, a hawk on Russia. In order to know Moscow’s intentions, he said, U.S. intelligence would have to have more than cyber-tracks showing Russia’s spy services transferred emails it stole from the Democratic National Committee to WikiLeaks, the whistleblower group led by Julian Assange.

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Bakos, a key member of the CIA team charged with analyzing the relationship between Iraq, Al-Qaeda and the 9/11 attacks, said the public should be cautious about reports citing leaked intelligence from anonymous officials. Ill-founded and false reports–that Iraq possessed chemical and biological weapons and had acquired yellow-cake uranium for a nuclear bomb– she reminded readers, were used by the George W. Bush administration to justify the invasion of Iraq.

“As we all learned from the Iraq war,” she tweeted, “there is more to the story than one nugget of yellow cake or intel, that's why an NIE is important.” She invited readers to explore the Senate Intelligence Committee’s 2004 report on how CIA intelligence was manipulated and misused.

 

[Denny Crane]

Well, that sounds like something a butt hurt person such as yourself would say.

barfo

Whine on.

 

[riverman]

Well, that sounds like something a butt hurt person such as yourself would say.

barfo

I find it sad that grown ups post dictionary definitions of their favorite words ...it's not that hard to spell or memorize...maybe Denny confuses butt hurt with Butthead......Beavis and Butthurt do America!

 

[Denny Crane]

I find it sad that grown ups post dictionary definitions of their favorite words ...it's not that hard to spell or memorize...maybe Denny confuses butt hurt with Butthead......Beavis and Butthurt do America!

People question why I use the term. The definition explains it.

There's only imagined merit to the stream of bullshit coming from twitter and the news.

 

[riverman]

http://www.newsweek.com/cia-trump-p...ileaks-clinton-spies-intelligence-iraq-530666

Updated | CIA veterans—none of them fans of Donald Trump–are urging caution about leaked allegations that Russia waged a secret campaign to put the New York Republican into the White House.

“I am not saying that I don't think Russia did this,” Nada Bakos, a top former CIA counterterrorism officer tells Newsweek, in a typical comment. “My main concern is that we will rush to judgment. The analysis needs to be cohesive and done the right way.”

Reports on the alleged Russian effort have been anything but cohesive, or complete. During a closed-door briefing to the House Intelligence Committee last week, a senior FBI counterintelligence official reportedly scoffed at the CIA’s conclusion that Russia had plotted to put Trump in office, calling the evidence “fuzzy” and “ambiguous.” Details of the meeting were leaked to The Washington Post.

Another former senior official, who said he was reluctant to go on the record on “something that has obviously been politicized,” tells Newsweekthat he, too, is wary of reports that CIA knows for certain that the Kremlin designed a hacking campaign with the specific goal of electing Trump, as opposed to just damaging Hillary Clinton, a hawk on Russia. In order to know Moscow’s intentions, he said, U.S. intelligence would have to have more than cyber-tracks showing Russia’s spy services transferred emails it stole from the Democratic National Committee to WikiLeaks, the whistleblower group led by Julian Assange.

...

Bakos, a key member of the CIA team charged with analyzing the relationship between Iraq, Al-Qaeda and the 9/11 attacks, said the public should be cautious about reports citing leaked intelligence from anonymous officials. Ill-founded and false reports–that Iraq possessed chemical and biological weapons and had acquired yellow-cake uranium for a nuclear bomb– she reminded readers, were used by the George W. Bush administration to justify the invasion of Iraq.

“As we all learned from the Iraq war,” she tweeted, “there is more to the story than one nugget of yellow cake or intel, that's why an NIE is important.” She invited readers to explore the Senate Intelligence Committee’s 2004 report on how CIA intelligence was manipulated and misused.

I dealt with some of this stuff in the Navy during war.....if they discover a spy they want to leave him in place thinking he's unnoticed and feed him misinformation....this is what the intelligence community has always done .we did this to the Japanese during WWII all the time...if I leaked anything I'd have been court martialed immediately and interrogated in a military prison.....it's on the contract when you sign up that your civil rights are gone when you work for the govt.....they own your ass whether you think it's right or not and they can send lawyers at you until the end of time even if they're wrong....the govt buries a malcontent without blinking ...always been like that. the idea that twitter or TV have control of this shit is hilarious....