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Paine Tablet said:
I'm actually the opposite. There's an arrogance about C.J. that I find to be subtle, but I notice it. It's like he really thinks he's too cool for school sometimes. He's also made some hot political takes that I found mindless; though it was befitting the current woke culture and he was unduly praised for it, as other people are so often unduly praised for it. Maybe that is why you like him so much.
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Dude's eyeing a career in media after he retires from the NBA. He's got to get some stuff out there. I have no problem at all with CJ (except I wish his defense was a little better :) )
 
Wizard Mentor said:
Dude's eyeing a career in media after he retires from the NBA. He's got to get some stuff out there. I have no problem at all with CJ (except I wish his defense was a little better :) )
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I wish he was better at getting open without the ball. He’s runs a lot but he still doesnt get open from all the running he does. I also wish he was better at setting up team mates. However I like the extension. I like him.
 
Paine Tablet said:
I'm actually the opposite. There's an arrogance about C.J. that I find to be subtle, but I notice it. It's like he really thinks he's too cool for school sometimes. He's also made some hot political takes that I found mindless; though it was befitting the current woke culture and he was unduly praised for it, as other people are so often unduly praised for it. Maybe that is why you like him so much.
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What an engaging story!!!
 
Wow.

Auntie Allen handing out the cheddar!!
 
I don’t hate this deal nor do I think it’s as amazing as most on here seem to think. It basically covers his years from 30 to 33 so he will likely be in decline for a part of that deal and not worth his contract, besides 2021 free agency class is setting up to be one of the strongest in a decade so it’s not a given he would receive a max offer then.

On the other hand he’s a very good player. He will probably not make an All-Star team in his career and will remain one of the better complimentary talents in the league next to a superstar like Dame.
 
Remember when Aldridge walked away from the team without compensation right in the middle of his prime? Kinda shitty, wasn't it? This deal prevents that from happening with CJ. Very good news.

If Simons comes along like we hope, it opens up the opportunity to trade either CJ or Simons for a more complementary star forward down the road.

Portland has been really good in recent years at sniffing out and developing undervalued guards--Simons, Trent, Connaughton, Crabbe, Hood, Curry, Frazier, Dame, CJ. If there's one disadvantage that arises with Dame/CJ/Simons turning into the three-headed monster I'm expecting, it's that it kind of minimizes this other skill the team seems to have. There just aren't the minutes to develop and showcase other guards.

We sure as fuck don't have a strong track record finding the same talent among 3s and 4s, so we might as well trade for them.

But for now, yeah, I'm really glad CJ is happy to extend with the team at a reasonable market price. In the era of "player empowerment," it's great that the team has more control of what happens to its second best player.
 
HailBlazers said:
Then your imagination is small.



May feel anchor-ish at times but it'll never actually be one. Like Bazemore big contracts will always have trade value and with the soft nature of NBA officiating scoring guards will always be at a premium.
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Just to be clear, it doesn't feel like an anchor to me right now. And I hope that CJ continues his work ethic, which he always has. It only becomes an anchor if he stops working and feels like he has already earned it. I haven't seen that in him yet, and his backcourt mate will keep the pressure on for both of them to continue to improve until they win a title.
 
Now I kind of want to see Ant develop and contribute to a very quick, very good 3pt shooting, 3-guard lineup. That lineup with Collins and Nurkic backing them up could be really fun to watch.
 
Jade Falcon said:
I guess I kinda thought of him more like a 4-year $80 or $90 million guy. But 3/$100M....eh....okay. I guess.
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Well, look at it this way. Would you take a significant pay decrease if you are just recently entering into your prime and coming off another solid year that got you the first pay raise? That's essentially what you are asking McCollum to do. :dunno:
 
Reep said:
Just to be clear, it doesn't feel like an anchor to me right now. And I hope that CJ continues his work ethic, which he always has. It only becomes an anchor if he stops working and feels like he has already earned it. I haven't seen that in him yet, and his backcourt mate will keep the pressure on for both of them to continue to improve until they win a title.
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I'm not worried about that from McCollum as he is very close with Lillard and has similar work ethic. He has already proven that he's willing to put in the work.
 
Blazers Roy said:
Big Centers can't be on the floor at all times in today's NBA. That fact hurts their market value.
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Mediocre big centers can’t be on the floor at all times. I would love to have seen how the Warriors “death lineup” would have worked against Hakeem.
 
TorturedBlazerFan said:
Could you imagine Draymond trying to guard Hakeem? heh. Would've taken him to Dream school.
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Draymond is pretty good at not buying pump fakes so he may have been able to hold his own...at times...against Hakeem. Where Draymond would have been overwhelmed is if he tried to guard Shaq or Artis Gilmore....goodnight
 
wizenheimer said:
Draymond is pretty good at not buying pump fakes so he may have been able to hold his own...at times...against Hakeem. Where Draymond would have been overwhelmed is if he tried to guard Shaq or Artis Gilmore....goodnight
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WHAT? How old are you? Did you ever actually see The Dream play? If so, C'Mon son!
 
I've read that Cj's Max was 114, so he took 14 millions less than he could have gotten
 
THE HCP said:
WHAT? How old are you? Did you ever actually see The Dream play? If so, C'Mon son!
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I saw Hakeem from when he was at UofHouston with Clyde and a Rocket. I saw the Blazers win the title and I was at Mac Court in Eugene when Portland played an exibition game that year and had Moses Malone backing up Walton. Yeah, I saw him play

Hakeem had incredible footwork, pump-fakes-galore, a gagillion drop steps and spin moves...all to go along with his good mid-range shooting. He 'overpowered' opponents with his finesse game and quickness. Those are all things Green has shown he can defend to some degree of success; he has quick hands and feet himself. For certain Hakeem would get the best of Green but I don't believe it would all be one-sided because Hakeem wasn't physical like Shaq or Artis Gilmore or Bob Lanier
 
wizenheimer said:
I saw Hakeem from when he was at UofHouston with Clyde and a Rocket. I saw the Blazers win the title and I was at Mac Court in Eugene when Portland played an exibition game that year and had Moses Malone backing up Walton. Yeah, I saw him play

Hakeem had incredible footwork, pump-fakes-galore, a gagillion drop steps and spin moves...all to go along with his good mid-range shooting. He 'overpowered' opponents with his finesse game and quickness. Those are all things Green has shown he can defend to some degree of success; he has quick hands and feet himself. For certain Hakeem would get the best of Green but I don't believe it would all be one-sided because Hakeem wasn't physical like Shaq or Artis Gilmore or Bob Lanier
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Careful! Now you’re showing your age......too many kids on this forum who never heard of Lanier and Gilmore. But then, that’s their loss. Though old bastards like me appreciate the reminder. Those two guys rocked and were a blast to watch.
 
wizenheimer said:
I saw Hakeem from when he was at UofHouston with Clyde and a Rocket. I saw the Blazers win the title and I was at Mac Court in Eugene when Portland played an exibition game that year and had Moses Malone backing up Walton. Yeah, I saw him play

Hakeem had incredible footwork, pump-fakes-galore, a gagillion drop steps and spin moves...all to go along with his good mid-range shooting. He 'overpowered' opponents with his finesse game and quickness. Those are all things Green has shown he can defend to some degree of success; he has quick hands and feet himself. For certain Hakeem would get the best of Green but I don't believe it would all be one-sided because Hakeem wasn't physical like Shaq or Artis Gilmore or Bob Lanier
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You sir have never been so wrong in all your life. With your big words and fancy terms. The Dream would baptize The Donkey over and over again! I wish I could take back all my LIKES I've sent your way!
 
Labinot41 said:
I've read that Cj's Max was 114, so he took 14 millions less than he could have gotten
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(Spicy post alert)

I wouldn't do it if I were him.
Seems like he's very much aware of the ungrateful fanbase and media in Portland.

He should've gone to a place were he's appreciated instead of being in trade talks for the rest of his career.
 
Blazers Roy said:
(Spicy post alert)

I wouldn't do it if I were him.
Seems like he's very much aware of the ungrateful fanbase and media in Portland.

He should've gone to a place were he's appreciated instead of being in trade talks for the rest of his career.
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Players careers can end so quickly, he's got a life and friends here at this point, and they're offering him a bunch more years of guaranteed money.
 
Blazers Roy said:
(Spicy post alert)

I wouldn't do it if I were him.
Seems like he's very much aware of the ungrateful fanbase and media in Portland.

He should've gone to a place were he's appreciated instead of being in trade talks for the rest of his career.
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You're confusing a vocal minority with a majority of the fan base. Most fans love CJ. Their isn't really a strong local media either so I doubt that really matters.

Besides it's not like fans discussing trades don't happen in every city. Heck last year on this site their were posters that wanted to trade Dame.
 
hoopsjock said:
You're confusing a vocal minority with a majority of the fan base. Most fans love CJ. Their isn't really a strong local media either so I doubt that really matters.

Besides it's not like fans discussing trades don't happen in every city. Heck last year on this site their were posters that wanted to trade Dame.
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For about 24 hours after the Pelicans series, I wanted the whole team dispersed into the nethers of the NBA lol. Ah that was a fun time...
 
hoopsjock said:
You're confusing a vocal minority with a majority of the fan base. Most fans love CJ. Their isn't really a strong local media either so I doubt that really matters.

Besides it's not like fans discussing trades don't happen in every city. Heck last year on this site their were posters that wanted to trade Dame.
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Majority of the fans here constantly complain about him in every game thread and there are endless 'trade CJ' threads.

People here wanted him gone for 1 year of Paul George, 6 months of Butler, Wiggins, Middleton, even fucking Robert Covington or saric or a lottery pick this year.

When it's "trade this guy for a superstar" - ok i get it, when it's "trade this guy for anything and anyone" - it's ungratefulness.

People here complain about a 2nd stringer on a winning team getting the max like it's anything new... They dont like CJ in Portland if this forum is ANY indication of general consensus.
 
Blazers Roy said:
Majority of the fans here constantly complain about him in every game thread and there are endless 'trade CJ' threads.

People here wanted him gone for 1 year of Paul George, 6 months of Butler, Wiggins, Middleton, even fucking Robert Covington or saric or a lottery pick this year.

When it's "trade this guy for a superstar" - ok i get it, when it's "trade this guy for anything and anyone" - it's ungratefulness.

People here complain about a 2nd stringer on a winning team getting the max like it's anything new... They dont like CJ in Portland if this forum is ANY indication of general consensus.
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Have you read this thread? I think for the most part it's pretty positive towards the extension.

You thinking that a few vocal posters on an internet forum means that most fans hate CJ is a bit crazy to me.
 
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