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Looking at the salaries being paid in the NBA today, this is a good deal. Also, it is a very tradable contract. Imagine paying him Chris Middleton's money. That would be sick ... seriously sick. Compare this to Russ + Harden money. Or Kawhi + Paul money ...
NBA salaries are just sick ... damned. These guys are swimming in money.
 
Hey said:
The biggest reason I've been on the trade CJ bandwagon is because I was 100% certain he would bolt at his first unrestricted free agency. During occasions Dame has been out, he's proven that he could easily be the top guard on a solid team and would easily be an All-Star in the East. He would be making a name for himself and not have to sign with a Chinese shoe brand.

He's proven me wrong. For his loyalty to Portland, he's earned my loyalty.
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Woah I saw this exact same post on Reddit hahaha deja Vu
 
Does anyone know if this was the max we could have offered him? I know Beal was eligible for 3/111 but I don't know if Beal and CJ are on the same timeline. Does this save us money during Dame's 1st year of the supermax?
 
B-Roy said:
Does anyone know if this was the max we could have offered him? I know Beal was eligible for 3/111 but I don't know if Beal and CJ are on the same timeline. Does this save us money during Dame's 1st year of the supermax?
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I'm not sure the exact answer to your question dollar-wise, but with the cap increases each year this definitely is less than what he could've potentially been offered next summer or when he was an actual free agent.
 
hoopsjock said:
I'm not sure the exact answer to your question dollar-wise, but with the cap increases each year this definitely is less than what he could've potentially been offered next summer or when he was an actual free agent.
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I was hoping you would respond, but with actual numbers.

Disappointed. :mook:
 
hoopsjock said:
:smiley-surprised: Sorry to disappoint you, I could make up numbers if you want but until the 2020-21 and 2021-22 salary cap numbers are announced those summers it's just a guess.
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So you saying you cannot calculate the actual cap numbers for next year? huh ... what happened to your ability to predict the future? Damned !!! :) :) :)
 
B-Roy said:
Does anyone know if this was the max we could have offered him? I know Beal was eligible for 3/111 but I don't know if Beal and CJ are on the same timeline. Does this save us money during Dame's 1st year of the supermax?
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Okay, I think I have it figured out. We could have offered him 3 years, $114 million this summer. So we saved $14 million total over 3 years over what it could've been this summer. CJ's salary would have kept getting bigger each summer moving forward too.
 
Natebishop3 said:
How is Ant gonna become an All-Star with Dame and CJ both here?
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That is the $64,000 question. Both McCollum and Lillard are above average shooters but not elite. What happens if Simons turns out to be an elite shooter? Is he still going to be coming off the bench? That would be unacceptable to me. The Blazers need that second all star (at least).
I think it will be a problem facing the Trail Blazers. Neither McCollum nor Lillard are elite defenders so they don’t win any points there either.
 
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Orion Bailey said:
Okay, 6th man of the year demanding 18-20 mill per. Was a kinda tongue and cheek statement with some underlying truthful concerns. :)
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The Blazers don’t need a sixth the man of the year they need another all star.
 
Pinwheel1 said:
If that happens I really do not see a downside.
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The downside is that CJ McCollum will always need to be on the floor ( as is the case now) at the end of the game even if his defense and rebounding are hurting the team and he is also not shooting well. This is why I do not think the pairing of Lillard and McCollum is as good as it can be in the NBA. What does McCollum do when he’s not shooting the ball? He’s not shooting it at an elite level on average and he’s not going to make the all NBA team on defense.
 
PtldPlatypus said:
Main question is how this impacts his trade value. Is he now more or less desirable to other teams?
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Depends upon the team and their situation. It's not a one-size fits all.

Generally, my guess is that it has a negligible effect on his trade value right now. It will be of minimal benefit next summer when he only has 1 year left on his 'original' contract.
 
blazerfan11 said:
The downside is that CJ McCollum will always need to be on the floor ( as is the case now) at the end of the game even if his defense and rebounding are hurting the team and he is also not shooting well. This is why I do not think the pairing of Lillard and McCollum is as good as it can be in the NBA. What does McCollum do when he’s not shooting the ball? He’s not shooting it at an elite level on average and he’s not going to make the all NBA team on defense.
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- Spacing the floor
- Commanding a good defense to stick to him to keep him from shooting the ball
 
SI gives us an A- on that work...

https://www.si.com/nba/2019/07/30/c...ail-blazers-contract-extension-damian-lillard

The Trail Blazers agreed to a three-year, $100 million contract extension with C.J. McCollum on Tuesday, according to ESPN, locking in one half of their star backcourt for the next five seasons. After moving urgently to sign Damian Lillard to a supermax extension in July, Portland and general manager Neil Olshey did the same to secure McCollum, who became eligible for an amended deal last week. The decision further stabilizes the Trail Blazers as Western Conference contenders for the foreseeable future, with their franchise cornerstones secure through 2023-24.

Grade: A-

While paying two star players concurrently over five years at supermax and near-max prices is always a massive commitment, Portland was uniquely positioned to do so, noting the chemistry between Lillard and McCollum and the intrinsic value of each player’s personality within the culture of their franchise. Being able to extend McCollum at a slight discount, relatively speaking, was something of a no-brainer. He turns 28 in September, and this deal keeps him in Portland (at least in theory) for his entire prime.

Credit the Trail Blazers, whose offseason decisions enabled them to comfortably extend an offer like this—the newly-acquired Hassan Whitesideand Kent Bazemore’s expiring contracts create some forthcoming flexibility, with only Jusuf Nurkic locked in past 2020-21, and potential extensions for promising youngsters Zach Collins and Anfernee Simons the only true looming commitments. While Portland lost some valuable parts of their rotation, it’s even clearer now that they’re willing to bet big on the Lillard-McCollum fulcrum performing well enough to empower a rotating cast around it. In an NBA where two stars would seem to be the barrier to entry for contention, it’s easiest to pay the ones you have, if you have them, and figure everything else out as it goes.

McCollum has evolved into a truly dynamic scorer, developing into a threat on and off the ball and a strong partner for Lillard. He’s been tied in trade rumors in the past, but as it stands, he’s a pretty tough cover, and someone as comfortable leading a bench unit as he is complementing Lillard in crunch time. It’s a testament to his flexibility and willingness to get the job done, and after last season’s conference finals run, Portland should feel even better about the price tag. He’s uniquely valuable to their organization, with real equity in what they’ve built, and at some point in this process, the dollar amounts start to matter less when the circumstances feel right. McCollum’s value to the Blazers goes beyond his counting stats, and his new contract represents that. It’s a tall price, but at least Portland knows exactly what it’s getting.
 
blazerfan11 said:
The downside is that CJ McCollum will always need to be on the floor ( as is the case now) at the end of the game even if his defense and rebounding are hurting the team and he is also not shooting well. This is why I do not think the pairing of Lillard and McCollum is as good as it can be in the NBA. What does McCollum do when he’s not shooting the ball? He’s not shooting it at an elite level on average and he’s not going to make the all NBA team on defense.
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You are worried about his rebounding? The Blazers were a top 5 team last year in rebounding. CJ averaged 4 per game. Basically the same as our starting SF. (Harkless @4.5)

Regardless if Simons turns out to be an "elite" shooter, my guess is he will be out on the floor at the end of games as well. I don't really see the need to worry about someone on this team being a really good shooter. The more the merrier. Especially as Dame and CJ get older and they start to miss more games. I kind of like having another option.
 
Okay......why am I not thrilled about this extension? $100M for 3 years of streaky play?

I will say that he shows up in the playoffs. But he kind of needs to show up in the regular season too.....especially for $100M.

Am I wrong?
 
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