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@ABM - Personally, I would rather have a gaffe machine who nevertheless happens to be very competent at the workings of government, than an incompetent pathological liar who values money over people.
 
As I'm sure many of you here have heard a similar story: A boss once told me, "Don't come to me with a problem unless you can come to me with a solution at the same time."

The same applies here, sports fans. Are you really, "Anyone but Trump!!" I mean, really??

OK, well, be careful what you ask for.

I wonder if the captain of the Titanic had that same policy.
 
You don't REALLY think Joe can pull this off ....do you?!!

Shoot, while there's still time, it may very well be good to cue-up Quomo. At least he seems to have some sense about him. Yeesh.

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Joe is a decent man. Trump isn’t. Joe will bring decency back to the office. He’ll run with a woman (Abrams, I hope- another decent one) and that woman will run for President in 2024;
 
Newsom. But I'm virtually certain both will be Presidential candidates in 4 (if Trump wins re-election) or 8 years.

By my math, AOC will be barely old enough to run next election. Which will probably be like a slogan or something.
 
Think about it, though. You're spending a LOT of time bashing Trump. The fact, though, is an election is coming up. Do you REALLY want Biden to take the reins in all of this? This is a reality check for the Democratic (alternative) party. At some point, you'll need to look yourselves in the mirror and say, "This is it. The time is now. Games are over. We have a critical decision to make."

Trump deserves bashing...and the time is not "now"....but it will be in November.
 
if Joe Biden had been the candidate in 2016, there never would have been a president trump....and the country and world would be in a better place
Yeah but Biden was able to formulate sentences in 2016. That is no longer the case.
 
Yeah but Biden was able to formulate sentences in 2016. That is no longer the case.

When Republicans elected, and blindly supported Trump, the bar was dropped so low they have no room to talk about any democratic candidate's foibles.
 
you're creating a scenario that won't happen, can't happen, and was never going to happen.
 
When Republicans elected, and blindly supported Trump, the bar was dropped so low they have no room to talk about any democratic candidate's foibles.
agree mostly but dems lowered the bar to begin with by nominating a blemished candidate. If anyone other than Hillary/Bernie ran instead Trump would have lost. The gov from Maryland would have beaten Trump.
Its was a vote against Hillary that lowered the bar.
Thats why its important Dems come with the right winnable candidate. I think Joe can if he doesn't self destruct. If he fails then dems fail again big time.
 
The premise of my OP didn't involve Trump in any way. I was simply comparing Biden to a potentially emerging Quomo. I was very impressed with his speech on Sunday and believe he could (politically) kick the crap out of Biden. If the Dems scramble to create viability for his candidacy, it could become very interesting this summer....

https://www.nationalreview.com/2020/03/could-a-draft-cuomo-movement-be-in-the-democrats-future/

BS...you said "Trump is gone"...now, does that mean you no longer support him or that you won't vote for him....or, can you explain what you meant when you said Trump is gone?
 
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Who would you prefer Governor Cuomo from NY or Governor Gavin Newsom from CA as a potential President?

I know very little about Newsom. I wasn't aware he was emerging.
 
agree mostly but dems lowered the bar to begin with by nominating a blemished candidate. If anyone other than Hillary/Bernie ran instead Trump would have lost. The gov from Maryland would have beaten Trump.
Its was a vote against Hillary that lowered the bar.
Thats why its important Dems come with the right winnable candidate. I think Joe can if he doesn't self destruct. If he fails then dems fail again big time.

Agreed about her as a candidate (she wasn't my choice), and about Joe (he's not my choice, but then again, my choice wasn't top 3).

Thing is, the candidates for the D's are better candidates for Presidency than the Republicans are putting out (Trump), but the thing is, Republicans excel at fallacies.

Hillary wasn't a good candidate, but to act like Trump was better is silly. They act like Joe's faults are 10X worse than Trumps faults.

It'd be like someone who owns a broken down old Chevrolet (with bad tires, bad brakes, leaky transmission, busted radiator, warped camshaft and bent valve stems) cracking on someone who owns a broken down Ford with a misfire.

(Trump is the Chevrolet in my scenario).
 
I know very little about Newsom. I wasn't aware he was emerging.

Knowing very little about someone or something has never stopped anyone from having a concrete opinion.
 
Agreed about her as a candidate (she wasn't my choice), and about Joe (he's not my choice, but than again, my choice wasn't top 3).

Thing is, the candidates for the D's are better candidates for Presidency than the Republicans are putting out (Trump), but the thing is, Republicans excel at fallacies.

Hillary wasn't a good candidate, but to act like Trump was better is silly. They act like Joe's faults are 10X worse than Trumps faults.

It'd be like someone who owns a broken down old Chevrolet (with bad tires, bad brakes, leaky transmission, busted radiator, warped camshaft and bent valve stems) cracking on someone who owns a broken down Ford with a misfire.

(Trump is the Chevrolet in my scenario).

It was Dems & Independents that put Trump in the Whitehouse.
Shouldn't happen again.
 
Knowing very little about someone or something has never stopped anyone from having a concrete opinion.

I only read that Cuomo might be propped up to be the Dem's guy for 2020. Nothing about Newsom.
 
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I only read that Quomo might be propped up to be the Dem's guy for 2020. Nothing about Newsom.

It's too late to have anyone join in for 2020. He might be "propped" up for 2024.
 
It was Dems & Independents that put Trump in the Whitehouse.
Shouldn't happen again.

Agreed about that. They ignored enough of the voters to piss them off to the point where they voted for someone who actually was worse for their well being.
 
Agreed about that. They ignored enough of the voters to piss them off to the point where they voted for someone who actually was worse for their well being.
I guess there is a reason there are independents, blue dogs, libertarians and others.
 
@ABM - Personally, I would rather have a gaffe machine who nevertheless happens to be very competent at the workings of government, than an incompetent pathological liar who values money over people.

You've just described attorneys at large. ;)
 
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