OT Coronavirus: America in chaos, News and Updates. One million Americans dead and counting (1 Viewer)

[yankeesince59]

Not sure if someone else has already posted this or not but, Gov Cuomo's Brother, CNN anchor Chris Cuomo has tested positive;

https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/31/media/chris-cuomo-coronavirus/index.html


CNN anchor Chris Cuomo diagnosed with coronavirus; he will continue working from home



Chris Cuomo said Tuesday that he has been diagnosed with Covid-19.

He is feeling well, and will continue to anchor his 9 p.m. program "Cuomo Prime Time" from his home.
"In these difficult times that seem to get more difficult and complicated by the day, I just found out that I am positive for coronavirus," Cuomo wrote in a message on Twitter.
"I have been exposed to people in recent days who have subsequently tested positive and I had fevers, chills and shortness of breath," he wrote. "I just hope I didn't give it to the kids and Cristina. That would make me feel worse than this illness!"
Cuomo was most recently at CNN's offices in the Hudson Yards neighborhood of New York City last Friday. He anchored from his home on Monday, and interviewed his brother, New York Governor Andrew Cuomo. The two men traded brotherly barbs about the anchorman's basement live shot location.
Cuomo said Tuesday that he is "quarantined in my basement" and will "do my shows from here."
"We will all beat this by being smart and tough and united!" he wrote on Twitter.

 

[bodyman5000 and 1]

I’ll trow you down deez fuckin stayas!!

So you think Fredo is already taking fish tank cleaner or what?

He needs to tell us exactly what they do for him.

 

[bodyman5000 and 1]

So did Cuomo have dinner at his brother's on Sunday or not. Reading that he did but can't find anything concrete.

 

[tlongII]

Communication is a big part of the job. Maybe the biggest part of the job. He does well at that.

Could he have better prepared NY back in Jan & Feb? Sure. He is probably guilty of thinking that the federal government was going to do something useful, and that thinking cost all of the states precious time.

barfo

You mean like suspending flights from China?

 

[BigGameDamian]

https://www.google.com/amp/s/nypost...eet-stay-in-air-for-hours-mit-researcher/amp/

Coronavirus could travel 27 feet, stay in air for hours: MIT researcher

 

[Orion Bailey]

Everyone was unprepared, that's the past, it's about how you move on from there. He seems to be doing better than a lot of governors. I know he's doing better than Oregon's governor. Florida finally just closed the beaches today.

It's like boxing or MMA, it's no longer about not getting punched in the face, it's about how to you respond after getting punched in the face.

Step 1: Admit that you just got punched in the face.

Step 2: Get up and fight back.

 

[andalusian]

Which governor do you think is handling this well?

Coumo certainly was too slow to close the state, but once he figured it out - he has done a fantastic job given the amount of people the close quarters he has to deal with.

But, if there is someone that certainly got it right is California's governor - Gavin Newsom - he was the first one to do a state wide quarantine - and while California has the most residents in the country - and was hit with cases early (possibly 2nd after Washington) - the infections per resident is only 18/100K which is relatively low for a state with multiple large, dense cities (it is lower than Wyoming, for example, which is not exactly the most dense state out there).

 

[ABM]

https://www.statista.com/chart/20629/ability-to-respond-to-an-epidemic-or-pandemic/

 

[BigGameDamian]

https://www.statista.com/chart/20629/ability-to-respond-to-an-epidemic-or-pandemic/

We where prepared until Trump came.

 

[barfo]

You mean like suspending flights from China?

No, I don't mean that. They didn't do that anyway, they flew all the Americans home from Wuhan, including sick ones. And the airlines cancelled their flights, not the government, on different days. And of course people could still fly to and from China via other countries even after the direct flights to/from the USA were all shut down. And the flights stopped after the virus was already in the US.

So, no. Closing the barn door after the horse is out does not win any medals.

barfo

 

[yankeesince59]

https://www.statista.com/chart/20629/ability-to-respond-to-an-epidemic-or-pandemic/

Not sure what that's supposed to prove...if it's accurate, where were the ventilators, masks, etc.,?

And also it begs the question, "If we were really prepared, why didn't Trump when he could/should have?"

 

[barfo]

https://www.statista.com/chart/20629/ability-to-respond-to-an-epidemic-or-pandemic/

If only that had turned out to be true...

Sort of like a preseason prediction that the Blazers would win the championship, isn't it.

barfo

 

[TorturedBlazerFan]

No, I don't mean that. They didn't do that anyway, they flew all the Americans home from Wuhan, including sick ones. And the airlines cancelled their flights, not the government, on different days. And of course people could still fly to and from China via other countries even after the direct flights to/from the USA were all shut down. And the flights stopped after the virus was already in the US.

So, no. Closing the barn door after the horse is out does not win any medals.

barfo

We should cancel all-travel from now on. You get a 5-mile radius from your home to travel in. All other travel is a government (aka Amazon), ran supply chain system. There will be armed guards at checkpoints. No more commercial cars, and transportation. Everyone works from home for the government, spying on the Russians. I think we've got this figured out.

 

[BigGameDamian]

 

[TorturedBlazerFan]

If only that had turned out to be true...

Sort of like a preseason prediction that the Blazers would win the championship, isn't it.

barfo

It looks like a prediction that no one would win the championship would've have been correct.

 

[ABM]

If only that had turned out to be true...

Sort of like a preseason prediction that the Blazers would win the championship, isn't it.

barfo

Great, so South Korea stands out alone. Hmmm.....I wonder if part of that is due to the folks they're around over thar.

At any rate, thanks for the one-hit wonder.

 

[barfo]

Great, so South Korea stands out alone.

No, South Korea is not the only country that has done better than the US. You seemed to disbelieve that anyone could possibly do better, so I provided you an example. If you want all the examples, there's plenty of sources for that information.

Hmmm.....I wonder if part of that is due to the folks they're around over thar.

No idea what you mean by that.

barfo

 

[ABM]

No, South Korea is not the only country that has done better than the US. You seemed to disbelieve that anyone could possibly do better, so I provided you an example. If you want all the examples, there's plenty of sources for that information.



No idea what you mean by that.

barfo

Meaning, this ain't their first rodeo at this type of stuff coming from that side of the world.

https://www.latimes.com/world-natio...f-the-u-s-could-be-a-matter-of-life-and-death


......Much of South Korea’s current disease control response system was forged after a 2015 local outbreak of Middle East respiratory syndrome, or MERS, caused by a different coronavirus. At the time, the Korea Centers for Disease Control and Prevention found itself unable to handle the abrupt surge in demand for tens of thousands of tests amid the largest outbreak outside of Saudi Arabia, which ultimately killed 38 patients and infected nearly 200.

The experience prompted the country to overhaul its CDC and pass laws to prepare for the next epidemic. Central to the changes was the ability to cut through a bureaucratic months-long process to get test kits rapidly approved and working during an emergency. The Zika virus epidemic of 2016 served as a small-scale dry run of the new system.


As luck would have it, last December, the South Korean government held a mock disease response drill — under the premise of a coronavirus outbreak.......

 

[ABM]

No, South Korea is not the only country that has done better than the US. You seemed to disbelieve that anyone could possibly do better, so I provided you an example. If you want all the examples, there's plenty of sources for that information.

OK, then, you're free to blame Trump and 90+% of the other world leaders that just seemed to miss it. Carry on.

 

[yankeesince59]

This isn't the US's "first rodeo" either. Trump is responsible, period.

,,,5 days after he was acquitted he went to a rally and played down the virus, and then decided it was good time to knock off and play a few rounds of golf.

 

[tlongII]

No, I don't mean that. They didn't do that anyway, they flew all the Americans home from Wuhan, including sick ones. And the airlines cancelled their flights, not the government, on different days. And of course people could still fly to and from China via other countries even after the direct flights to/from the USA were all shut down. And the flights stopped after the virus was already in the US.

So, no. Closing the barn door after the horse is out does not win any medals.

barfo

They did do that. It is documented.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/31/business/china-travel-coronavirus.html

Do you think they shouldn't have?

 

[ABM]

It was probably a nice day.

 

[barfo]

OK, then, you're free to blame Trump and 90+% of the other world leaders that just seemed to miss it. Carry on.

Trump didn't 'just seem to miss' it. He has the best intelligence in the world at his disposal. He was warned about it early and often. He chose to ignore the problem.

I'm not sure where you got the 90% number from, but certainly there are countries which had better or worse information available, and there are countries who did better or worse with the information they had.

The US, with all its advantages, will likely end up with the most dead people. That's not remotely acceptable performance.

barfo

 

[barfo]

They did do that. It is documented.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/31/business/china-travel-coronavirus.html

Do you think they shouldn't have?

From your link, emphasis mine:

The temporary restrictions followed announcements by American Airlines, Delta Air Lines and United Airlines that they would suspend air service between the United States and China for several months.

So yeah, the administration did it, but they did it too late, and after the airlines had already done it.

barfo

 

[TorturedBlazerFan]

Trump didn't 'just seem to miss' it. He has the best intelligence in the world at his disposal. He was warned about it early and often. He chose to ignore the problem.

I'm not sure where you got the 90% number from, but certainly there are countries which had better or worse information available, and there are countries who did better or worse with the information they had.

The US, with all its advantages, will likely end up with the most dead people. That's not remotely acceptable performance.

barfo

Maybe the US isn't as privileged as you think.

 

[barfo]

Maybe the US isn't as privileged as you think.

Not sure how you'd come to that conclusion.

barfo

 

[tlongII]

From your link, emphasis mine:



So yeah, the administration did it, but they did it too late, and after the airlines had already done it.

barfo

I read the article. I'm just happy you admitted you were wrong.

 

[tlongII]

Trump didn't 'just seem to miss' it. He has the best intelligence in the world at his disposal. He was warned about it early and often. He chose to ignore the problem.

I'm not sure where you got the 90% number from, but certainly there are countries which had better or worse information available, and there are countries who did better or worse with the information they had.

The US, with all its advantages, will likely end up with the most dead people. That's not remotely acceptable performance.

barfo

Do you think the US will end up with more dead people than China?

 

[TorturedBlazerFan]

Not sure how you'd come to that conclusion.

barfo

He has the best Intelligence? Says who? US Propaganda?
The US and all our advantages? You mean like one of the most divided countries on the planet? With a government that for years hasn't been able to do anything without screwing over its citizens.
I don't think the US is nearly as special as you seem to be making it out to be.

 

[RR7]

OK, then, you're free to blame Trump and 90+% of the other world leaders that just seemed to miss it. Carry on.

So were the other 90% of leaders dismissing it as under control, then blaming the media for inflaming the situation? While doing jack shit