OT Coronavirus: America in chaos, News and Updates. One million Americans dead and counting (5 Viewers)

[barfo]

I read the article. I'm just happy you admitted you were wrong.

Did you think I meant that they hadn't issued the order? Sorry I wasn't clear. I meant that the airlines had already done it for them.

It's been hailing at my house for the last few minutes. I've just issued an executive order ordering it to hail. I now get credit for making it hail, right?

barfo

 

[RR7]

Do you think the US will end up with more dead people than China?

That's kind of an empty question because when the US passes them in deaths, people will just say that China lied about their numbers

 

[tlongII]

Did you think I meant that they hadn't issued the order? Sorry I wasn't clear. I meant that the airlines had already done it for them.

It's been hailing at my house for the last few minutes. I've just issued an executive order ordering it to hail. I now get credit for making it hail, right?

barfo

So you think it was unnecessary?

 

[barfo]

He has the best Intelligence? Says who? US Propaganda?

Seriously? Sure, you can argue that maybe China or Russia might be better, but you certainly can't argue that e.g. Guyana or Indonesia have better intelligence.

The US and all our advantages? You mean like one of the most divided countries on the planet? With a government that for years hasn't been able to do anything without screwing over its citizens.
I don't think the US is nearly as special as you seem to be making it out to be.

Okayyyyy... that's an interesting argument, but what I was saying was that Trump was warned about the coronavirus, and the US is rich enough to take whatever actions were deemed necessary. Even if the US is the worst place on earth and our intelligence sucks, it's a fact that he was warned and failed to act.

barfo

 

[barfo]

Do you think the US will end up with more dead people than China?

Since we already have more deaths than them*, and our numbers are increasing and theirs are not, yes. I think we will end up with many more dead than China.

*assuming they aren't lying massively about the number of dead. Which they probably are but we'll probably still pass them. They were able to contain the virus (so far) to one region; we spread it everywhere in our country.

barfo

 

[tlongII]

Since we already have more deaths than them*, and our numbers are increasing and theirs are not, yes. I think we will end up with many more dead than China.

*assuming they aren't lying massively about the number of dead. Which they probably are but we'll probably still pass them. They were able to contain the virus (so far) to one region; we spread it everywhere in our country.

barfo

Unfortunately we'll never know as China won't share accurate information. Personally I think they will have far more deaths than the US. China is now relaxing their restrictions and I believe that is purely economically driven.

 

[TorturedBlazerFan]

Seriously? Sure, you can argue that maybe China or Russia might be better, but you certainly can't argue that e.g. Guyana or Indonesia have better intelligence.



Okayyyyy... that's an interesting argument, but what I was saying was that Trump was warned about the coronavirus, and the US is rich enough to take whatever actions were deemed necessary. Even if the US is the worst place on earth and our intelligence sucks, it's a fact that he was warned and failed to act.

barfo

I could, in theory, argue that the ant colony in the field out back has better intelligence if I want too. We really don't have any idea how "good" or "bad" US Intelligence is we just pretty much get to take them at their word for it. I've always heard that Isreal's intelligence agencies are always way ahead of the curve compared to the US's but I have no real tangible proof.

I know everyone hates Trump and I'm no fan, but all I see is a split country, that can't find common ground on anything, kind of doing exactly what I thought they would do. Fighting and pointing the finger at every turn, blustering about with little to no plans. Saying it's all the fault of the guy at the top, even though half of those people have been hacking away at him for years. So far all our politicians have figured out how to do throughout all this is, shut down the economy, "stimulate it", by tossing out pseudo-socialist one-time payments to the voters, while robbing the country for hundreds of billions to their corporate sponsors, and political agenda's. They haven't even figured out how to successfully get people off of their spring break beaches. Sure you can blame Trump for his failure to do more, but even Cuomo with all of his wonderful bluster hasn't managed to actually do much of anything in a timely manner, but at least he has the excuse that he can say he was waiting for Trump to do it for him.

 

[ABM]

The US, with all its advantages, will likely end up with the most dead people.

.....and probably the most world travelers.

At this point, I'll agree to disagree.

 

[barfo]

.....and probably the most world travelers.

At this point, I'll agree to disagree.

Doesn't matter if you disagree. Maybe you should post updates to that death chart you were so proud of a couple of days ago?

barfo

 

[Hoopguru]

I could, in theory, argue that the ant colony in the field out back has better intelligence if I want too. We really don't have any idea how "good" or "bad" US Intelligence is we just pretty much get to take them at their word for it. I've always heard that Isreal's intelligence agencies are always way ahead of the curve compared to the US's but I have no real tangible proof.

I know everyone hates Trump and I'm no fan, but all I see is a split country, that can't find common ground on anything, kind of doing exactly what I thought they would do. Fighting and pointing the finger at every turn, blustering about with little to no plans. Saying it's all the fault of the guy at the top, even though half of those people have been hacking away at him for years. So far all our politicians have figured out how to do throughout all this is, shut down the economy, "stimulate it", by tossing out pseudo-socialist one-time payments to the voters, while robbing the country for hundreds of billions to their corporate sponsors, and political agenda's. They haven't even figured out how to successfully get people off of their spring break beaches. Sure you can blame Trump for his failure to do more, but even Cuomo with all of his wonderful bluster hasn't managed to actually do much of anything in a timely manner, but at least he has the excuse that he can say he was waiting for Trump to do it for him.

All Presidents have Failed to Act on important critical happenings.
Everyone one of us also has failed to act on something and maybe with bad consequences. But we need to THRIVE & SURVIVE through persistence & fortitude as a people and that can change the very character of all of us if we do it as team.

 

[TorturedBlazerFan]

All Presidents have Failed to Act on important critical happenings.
Everyone one of us also has failed to act on something and maybe with bad consequences. But we need to THRIVE & SURVIVE through persistence & fortitude as a people and that can change the very character of all of us if we do it as team.

I'd agree but the thing is there are two teams here and if you choose to support one side then the other really doesn't want you to Thrive and Survive. It's kind of like having an inner-squad scrimmage and the two teams scrimmaging each other have forgotten their supposed to want what's best for the team overall, our teams basically don't care about the team over-all it's about their team. Has been that way for years, doesn't appear to be changing. It's nice that they picked team captains for the inner-squad matchups so us fans of the crappy team have some faces to be pissed off at though.

 

[Strenuus]

All Presidents have Failed to Act on important critical happenings.
Everyone one of us also has failed to act on something and maybe with bad consequences. But we need to THRIVE & SURVIVE through persistence & fortitude as a people and that can change the very character of all of us if we do it as team.

Its sad that a normal citizen has more leadership than the dumbest person on the planet that happens to be "president".

Theres never a good time for this pandemic to hit, but with the worst person to ever inhabit this earth as our "president", this surely is the worst time.

 

[Strenuus]

Unfortunately we'll never know as China won't share accurate information. Personally I think they will have far more deaths than the US. China is now relaxing their restrictions and I believe that is purely economically driven.

Funny, there were people saying this should happen here. Now people are saying its too soon for other countries.

Why people voted for the worst person on this planet to be "president" in 2016 is beyond me.

 

[tlongII]

Funny, there were people saying this should happen here. Now people are saying its too soon for other countries.

Why people voted for the worst person on this planet to be "president" in 2016 is beyond me.

Oh I think it will become an economic decision even here eventually. When that is I'm not sure, but economics will be a huge driver in the decision.

 

[Hoopguru]

Its sad that a normal citizen has more leadership than the dumbest person on the planet that happens to be "president".

Theres never a good time for this pandemic to hit, but with the worst person to ever inhabit this earth as our "president", this surely is the worst time.

I hope the best outcome for us all.
I just found out that my cousin who passed yesterday morning, did pass from the virus. She went to the hospital in Lebanon and they sent her home saying she had a bad case of bronchitis, she died in her sleep.
Now they are saying she it was the virus and she should have been admitted. Did someone make the wrong call? It doesn't matter now, what matters is we learn from it and try to prevent other tragedies.

 

[CupWizier]

Did you think I meant that they hadn't issued the order? Sorry I wasn't clear. I meant that the airlines had already done it for them.

It's been hailing at my house for the last few minutes. I've just issued an executive order ordering it to hail. I now get credit for making it hail, right?

barfo

Thanks barfo. It is now sunshinning at my house.

 

[crandc]

Everyone fails, that's a given.

So, do you then take responsibility and try to fix? Or blame others, praise yourself, throw temper tantrums, demand everyone be nice to you?

 

[andalusian]

All Presidents have Failed to Act on important critical happenings.
Everyone one of us also has failed to act on something and maybe with bad consequences. But we need to THRIVE & SURVIVE through persistence & fortitude as a people and that can change the very character of all of us if we do it as team.

I agree. So together, we need to learn from this disaster and vote better than last time. Wanting an outsider is not a good enough criteria for election if that someone is not competent. Voting for someone because he is against abortions is worthless if it results in thousands of born people dead. That is the whole point - and frankly, it is hard to argue for unity when the idiot at the top will only help you if you are nice to him... the buck needs to stop somewhere, otherwise, what's the point of the idea of having someone in charge?

 

[TorturedBlazerFan]

I agree. So together, we need to learn from this disaster and vote better than last time. Wanting an outsider is not a good enough criteria for election if that someone is not competent. Voting for someone because he is against abortions is worthless if it results in thousands of born people dead. That is the whole point - and frankly, it is hard to argue for unity when the idiot at the top will only help you if you are nice to him... the buck needs to stop somewhere, otherwise, what's the point of the idea of having someone in charge?

The point is so we have someone to get mad at when things dont go the way we wanted.

 

[ABM]

Doesn't matter if you disagree. Maybe you should post updates to that death chart you were so proud of a couple of days ago?

barfo

OK, so some mistakes were made early on. Hindsight. Nonetheless, Trump has made some pretty consistent positive strides moving forward. I maintain the keeping that continuity - and reelecting - is the best choice. Afterall, the alternative choice has other solutions in mind.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">A wall will not stop the coronavirus.<br><br>Banning all travel from Europe — or any other part of the world — will not stop it.<br><br>This disease could impact every nation and any person on the planet — and we need a plan to combat it.</p>&mdash; Joe Biden (@JoeBiden) <a href="">March 13, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

 

[andalusian]

The point is so we have someone to get mad at when things dont go the way we wanted.

Frankly. That's a bad reason. I sure hope this was said in jest, because otherwise...

Anyway, I can't imagine who would have wanted this disaster to happen, so - everyone should be upset about it.

 

[tlongII]

I hope the best outcome for us all.
I just found out that my cousin who passed yesterday morning, did pass from the virus. She went to the hospital in Lebanon and they sent her home saying she had a bad case of bronchitis, she died in her sleep.
Now they are saying she it was the virus and she should have been admitted. Did someone make the wrong call? It doesn't matter now, what matters is we learn from it and try to prevent other tragedies.

I'm very sorry to hear that.

 

[CupWizier]

All Presidents have Failed to Act on important critical happenings.
Everyone one of us also has failed to act on something and maybe with bad consequences. But we need to THRIVE & SURVIVE through persistence & fortitude as a people and that can change the very character of all of us if we do it as team.

I'll do it as a team as long as trump is off that team.

 

[CupWizier]

Unfortunately we'll never know as China won't share accurate information. Personally I think they will have far more deaths than the US. China is now relaxing their restrictions and I believe that is purely economically driven.

Can China trust our numbers? I doubt that they do and for obvious reasons.

 

[Hoopguru]

I'll do it as a team as long as trump is off that team.

I hear what you're saying, but thank God Fauci & Brix can.

 

[barfo]

Unfortunately we'll never know as China won't share accurate information. Personally I think they will have far more deaths than the US. China is now relaxing their restrictions and I believe that is purely economically driven.

Well, we kind of have an idea. Mass deaths means mass graves, and intelligence can pick that up, as we've seen in Iran. So while China probably is undercounting by a factor of 2 or 3, and maybe by as much as 10x, it's hard to believe that they are undercounting by 100x.
And if they are 'only' undercounting by 10x, we'll still blow past them (80,000 dead here by August according to the best case scenario presented at the White House today).

But you have a point about them relaxing their restrictions. That could lead to the virus coming back on them quickly. However, they can knock it down quickly in ways that we can't - not likely we'll be welding anyone into their apartment, for example.

barfo

 

[BigGameDamian]

I heard the tests aren't even 100% accurate.

 

[yankeesince59]

Doesn't matter if you disagree. Maybe you should post updates to that death chart you were so proud of a couple of days ago?

barfo

Allow me;

 

[SlyPokerDog]

So we closed the border from others but we didn't close it to ourselves.

70 Austin Spring-Breakers Chartered A Plane To Mexico. 28 Of Them Now Have COVID-19.

Seventy young adults are being investigated for COVID-19 exposure after taking a chartered plane to Cabo San Lucas, Mexico, for spring break roughly 10 days ago, Austin Public Health says.

Of those 70, 28 have tested positive for COVID-19, and dozens are under investigation by the public health authority; four had no symptoms.

The individuals in their 20s flew out together, then took separate flights back, which allowed for the spread of the virus, APH said in an announcement Tuesday morning.

https://www.kut.org/post/70-austin-spring-breakers-chartered-plane-mexico-28-them-now-have-covid-19

 

[CupWizier]

OK, so some mistakes were made early on. Hindsight. Nonetheless, Trump has made some pretty consistent positive strides moving forward. I maintain the keeping that continuity - and reelecting - is the best choice. Afterall, the alternative choice has other solutions in mind.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">A wall will not stop the coronavirus.<br><br>Banning all travel from Europe — or any other part of the world — will not stop it.<br><br>This disease could impact every nation and any person on the planet — and we need a plan to combat it.</p>&mdash; Joe Biden (@JoeBiden) <a href="">March 13, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Your boy is a disaster and pretty much proves it every day with his BS press briefings that add very little to the efforts to combat this. Dodge deflect and defer is his MO and I have been noticing more of that in your posts.