OT Coronavirus: America in chaos, News and Updates. One million Americans dead and counting (1 Viewer)

[wizenheimer]

 

[wizenheimer]

This is quite possibly the saddest thing i can listen to today. The problem is it's so very true. The rest of the world calls us STUPID! "Someone who obviously received his education in AMERICA!
This is what happens when you spend more money on the policing than you do on education. Lets not even speak about military.

I wouldn't call it sad as much as I would pathetic and enraging

I saw a little of Anderson Cooper's show last night, and there was a reporter from CNN interviewing trump supporters going into a trump rally. He was asking them about trump's refusal to condemn QAnon. The amount of willful ignorance and denial was off the charts. The answers and responses were flatly stupid. These idiots have actually worked to get more ignorant and more wrong-headed. The reason so many refuse to wear masks is they do not believe there's a pandemic. And even if they suspect there is, they are so stubbornly ignorant they still think their rights are being taken away by government asking them to be accountable to other people and try and prevent infection

I think very few of them are redeemable. They will carry this stubborn ignorance as a shield against reality till the day they die. I know several people like this and none have changed their tune or modified their perspective. They just go deeper down the rabbit holes in their hard heads.

 

[speeds]

American MSM has a bizarre fascination with (false) equivalence. It's given rise to the notion that opinions driven by special interests or just generalized insanity are deserving of an equal platform to those of experts and people with meaningful experience.

 

[BigGameDamian]

Fake news! Rounding the curve!!

https://www.google.com/amp/s/katu.c...es-in-oregon-climbing-worrying-health-experts

Coronavirus cases in Oregon climbing, worrying health experts

 

[Chris Craig]

https://www.yahoo.com/news/white-house-tennessee-mask-mandate-233347497.html

NASHVILLE, Tenn. (AP) — The White House quietly told Tennessee early this week that “a statewide mask mandate must be implemented" to curb its growing spread of COVID-19, strong instructions that the White House and governor did not discuss publicly before the report emerged in a records request.

The Oct. 11 state report for Tennessee, where Republican Gov. Bill Lee has let counties decide whether to require masks in public, first came to light in a records request by WUOT-FM. The Associated Press obtained the report from the Knox County Health Department afterward.

"A statewide mask mandate must be implemented to stop the increasing spread among residents in rural and urban areas of Tennessee," the item in a list of recommendations states.

President Donald Trump has repeatedly said he was not in favor of mask mandates, but the recommendations of the task force and public health agencies, like the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, have often been at odds with the White House's rhetoric.

The report takes the strongest tone to date in urging Tennessee to act, though Lee has made it clear for months that he did not think masks should be required across the state. Lee, who has urged people to wear masks, continued to advise against a statewide mandate Friday in an online news conference, in which he didn't mention the White House's instruction a few days earlier.

“Statewide, one-size-fits-all mandates are not as effective in many cases as local decision making,” Lee said.

In a statement late Friday, the governor's office said the White House report had not altered his thinking.

“The governor has strongly encouraged Tennesseans to make responsible decisions to protect themselves and others from COVID-19, including wearing masks in public, avoiding large gatherings, and staying home when sick," the statement said. “The governor’s view has not changed based upon non-binding recommendations from the federal government. Previous White House reports dating back to the summer have included similar recommendations, so the inclusion here is not novel."

Earlier in the week, the governor and his health commissioner downplayed the importance of releasing those White House “red zone” reports. They aren't regularly released publicly, but the governor's office has produced them when requested by The Associated Press.

Lee told reporters Wednesday that “Multiple streams of data from multiple places is not helpful to people,” saying his administration tries to be as “clear and concise as possible” in reporting data. Health Commissioner Lisa Piercey said the White House data comes in at a lag, and said the recommendations in the report are “nothing novel, quite frankly.”

“In all of those reports the recommendations are exactly what your hear coming from our mouths, from the folks at the White House Coronavirus Task Force,” Piercey said.

The White House did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

The wording of the Oct. 11 White House report differed from the one a week earlier, which said, “Masks must be worn indoors in all public settings and group gathering sizes should be limited.”

In late July, White House COVID-19 task force leader Deborah Birx visited Nashville and urged all Tennesseans to wear a mask. At the same event, Lee said he’s “been to counties that have a mandate where people are not wearing masks as well.”

 

[BigGameDamian]

Rounding the curve folks!

 

[Hoopguru]

Watching Alabama Georgia and the stadium looks to be half full or more.
Looks like Trump rally

 

[BigGameDamian]

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.eo...navirus-after-telling-followers-it-wasnt-real

Influencer Dmitriy Stuzhuk Dead Of Coronavirus After Telling Followers It Wasn't Real

Fitness influencer Dmitriy Stuzhuk has passed away due to complications related to coronavirus. His ex-wife confirmed his death in a heartbreaking Instagram post.

 

[GoBlazersGo]

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.eo...navirus-after-telling-followers-it-wasnt-real

Influencer Dmitriy Stuzhuk Dead Of Coronavirus After Telling Followers It Wasn't Real

Fitness influencer Dmitriy Stuzhuk has passed away due to complications related to coronavirus. His ex-wife confirmed his death in a heartbreaking Instagram post.

It probably wasn't really a Covid-related death, anyways. After all, I'm sure he had some sort of pre-existing condition that lead to his seemingly-early demise.

If they had just simply *not* tested him for Covid-19, we could've avoided yet another senseless Covid-19 death in the statistics.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

 

[BigGameDamian]

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.or...hen-her-husband-falls-ill.html?outputType=amp

Nurse, 51, dies of COVID-19; then her husband falls ill

 

[lawai'a]

(Source: Reddit) Street car conductor in Seattle not allowing passengers aboard without a mask, during Spanish Flu Pandemic in 1918.

 

[BigGameDamian]

https://metro.co.uk/2020/10/19/peop...d-still-contract-virus-warns-doctor-13444092/

People who have Covid-19 vaccine could still contract virus, warns doctor


Read more: https://metro.co.uk/2020/10/19/peop...ract-virus-warns-doctor-13444092/?ito=cbshare

Twitter: https://twitter.com/MetroUK | Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/MetroUK/

 

[noknobs]

 

[SlyPokerDog]

20% of verified coronavirus patients did not develop immunity

https://www.jpost.com/health-scienc...op-covid-19-antibodies-lose-them-sheba-646228

 

[stampedehero]

10/20/20
Microsoft News
......His personal warfare against Fauci on a frenzied day on the campaign trail, while indecent and questionable from a strategic political perspective, revealed how the US government effort to beat the pandemic has been suppressed in the service of Trump's reelection.

"Tony Fauci has been the most clear, consistent proponent of the measures the United States needs to protect itself from a deadly disease," William Haseltine, a renowned public health expert and former professor at Harvard Medical School, told CNN's Erin Burnett on Monday.

"What Donald Trump is doing is attacking the fire department when the house in burning down. This is a very serious time."

Trump's conduct is typical of an approach to the disease that has rejected science when it doesn't provide answers that are politically palpable and has threatened to cause the sickness and death of tens of thousands more Americans.......

 

[Shaboid]

I've had a sore throat for the past week. I always wear a mask, I stay home as much as possible, but I feel like I should go get tested. I also feel a bit like a hypochondriac. Anyone else feel this way?

 

[theprunetang]

I've had a sore throat for the past week. I always wear a mask, I stay home as much as possible, but I feel like I should go get tested. I also feel a bit like a hypochondriac. Anyone else feel this way?

Every day.

 

[Shaboid]

Every day.

I appreciate your empathy, bud.

 

[crandc]

If getting tested will reassure you, go ahead, although if all you have is sore throat probably not Coronavirus.

 

[yankeesince59]

I've had a sore throat for the past week. I always wear a mask, I stay home as much as possible, but I feel like I should go get tested. I also feel a bit like a hypochondriac. Anyone else feel this way?

No fever or cough?

 

[julius]

I've had a sore throat for the past week. I always wear a mask, I stay home as much as possible, but I feel like I should go get tested. I also feel a bit like a hypochondriac. Anyone else feel this way?

Every night when i go to bed, and every morning when I wake up.

I noticed that every time i had a small desk fan on during the night, I'd wake up feeling like shit. No temps though.

 

[Shaboid]

If getting tested will reassure you, go ahead, although if all you have is sore throat probably not Coronavirus.

No fever or cough?

No cough no fever, feeling like a hypochondriac though. Thanks doctors.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

I've had a sore throat for the past week. I always wear a mask, I stay home as much as possible, but I feel like I should go get tested. I also feel a bit like a hypochondriac. Anyone else feel this way?

Get tested.

Please.

 

[wizenheimer]

No cough no fever, feeling like a hypochondriac though. Thanks doctors.

a little bit of paranoia is probably a good thing as long as Covid is surging like it is

I'd recommend calling your doctor and asking about a test

 

[lawai'a]

Get tested.

Please.

but if everyone keeps getting tested we will never be free from the china virus

 

[e_blazer]

Some interesting points in the New York Times' emailed morning update today:

A virus update, in three charts
Let’s check in on the state of the coronavirus this morning, with help from three charts. Here’s the first:

By The New York Times | Sources: The COVID Tracking Project, state and local health agencies and hospitals
As you can see, the number of new virus cases in the U.S. is surging — and not far from this summer’s peak. You’re probably familiar with versions of that blue line. It is the most common metric for tracking the virus.

The rising line mostly reflects reality: The virus is surging, especially in the Upper Midwest. Cooler weather is leading to more indoor activity, which often leads to new cases, and many Americans seem tired of pandemic restrictions.

But you’ll notice that the red line on the chart — the number of Americans currently hospitalized with virus complications — looks less bad. It has risen lately, but it is not close to its peak.

Why? Partly because the number of virus cases is not actually rising as much as the official case numbers suggest.

That brings us to chart No. 2:

By The New York Times | Sources: The COVID Tracking Project
The U.S. is conducting a lot more tests than in the summer or spring. More widespread testing means that the official numbers are capturing a larger share of new virus cases than earlier this year.

“We have probably gotten better at finding cases, as testing capacity has increased, and so we can’t directly compare the size of the waves based on case counts alone,” Caitlin Rivers of Johns Hopkins University told me. “That’s a good development.”

The third chart also suggests some encouraging news:

By The New York Times | Sources: state and local health agencies and hospitals
Even as case numbers have soared and hospitalizations have risen, deaths have held fairly steady.

That’s happened as many older people — who are most vulnerable — have been careful about avoiding exposure. A greater share of current new cases is among young Americans.

The quality of virus treatments is also improving. Remdesivir, dexamethasone and monoclonal antibodies all seem to help, as my colleague Donald G. McNeil Jr. points out. Just consider how quickly both President Trump and Chris Christie recovered, despite their age and underlying health risks.

The full picture: There are some silver linings. The statistics on new virus cases that get so much attention are somewhat exaggerating the severity of the current outbreak, because of the rise in testing. And treatments have improved, reducing the death count.

But the virus’s toll has still been horrific — and worse than in many other countries. More than 220,000 Americans have died, and hundreds of people are still dying every day.

The overall situation is also getting worse, as the hospitalization numbers make clear. In some states, hospitals are almost full, and the virus continues to spread. “I’m just waiting to see if our community can change our behavior,” Debra Konitzer, the top health officer in Oconto County, Wis., recently said. “Otherwise, I don’t see the end in sight.”

As Donald McNeil says, “The fall wave has just begun.”

 

[e_blazer]

a little bit of paranoia is probably a good thing as long as Covid is surging like it is

I'd recommend calling your doctor and asking about a test

This.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Some interesting points in the New York Times' emailed morning update today:

A virus update, in three charts
Let’s check in on the state of the coronavirus this morning, with help from three charts. Here’s the first:

By The New York Times | Sources: The COVID Tracking Project, state and local health agencies and hospitals
As you can see, the number of new virus cases in the U.S. is surging — and not far from this summer’s peak. You’re probably familiar with versions of that blue line. It is the most common metric for tracking the virus.

The rising line mostly reflects reality: The virus is surging, especially in the Upper Midwest. Cooler weather is leading to more indoor activity, which often leads to new cases, and many Americans seem tired of pandemic restrictions.

But you’ll notice that the red line on the chart — the number of Americans currently hospitalized with virus complications — looks less bad. It has risen lately, but it is not close to its peak.

Why? Partly because the number of virus cases is not actually rising as much as the official case numbers suggest.

That brings us to chart No. 2:

By The New York Times | Sources: The COVID Tracking Project
The U.S. is conducting a lot more tests than in the summer or spring. More widespread testing means that the official numbers are capturing a larger share of new virus cases than earlier this year.

“We have probably gotten better at finding cases, as testing capacity has increased, and so we can’t directly compare the size of the waves based on case counts alone,” Caitlin Rivers of Johns Hopkins University told me. “That’s a good development.”

The third chart also suggests some encouraging news:

By The New York Times | Sources: state and local health agencies and hospitals
Even as case numbers have soared and hospitalizations have risen, deaths have held fairly steady.

That’s happened as many older people — who are most vulnerable — have been careful about avoiding exposure. A greater share of current new cases is among young Americans.

The quality of virus treatments is also improving. Remdesivir, dexamethasone and monoclonal antibodies all seem to help, as my colleague Donald G. McNeil Jr. points out. Just consider how quickly both President Trump and Chris Christie recovered, despite their age and underlying health risks.

The full picture: There are some silver linings. The statistics on new virus cases that get so much attention are somewhat exaggerating the severity of the current outbreak, because of the rise in testing. And treatments have improved, reducing the death count.

But the virus’s toll has still been horrific — and worse than in many other countries. More than 220,000 Americans have died, and hundreds of people are still dying every day.

The overall situation is also getting worse, as the hospitalization numbers make clear. In some states, hospitals are almost full, and the virus continues to spread. “I’m just waiting to see if our community can change our behavior,” Debra Konitzer, the top health officer in Oconto County, Wis., recently said. “Otherwise, I don’t see the end in sight.”

As Donald McNeil says, “The fall wave has just begun.”

The decreasing death rate is a reflection of the amazing and difficult work by our medical and scientific professionals. For some to site these statistics and then ignore or dismiss other advice and information by these seem professionals is infuriating.

 

[illmatic99]

We are nearing the point where we need another shutdown. In so many states, there are more cases now per day than there ever were this spring.

Even if it's not a full shutdown, we need serious public health measures to scale back congregation.

I had a colleague I was working with test positive, with somewhat severe symptoms and that put me into quarantine for the next two weeks. Luckily I tested negative probably as I wear full PPE while working closely with others, but it was still a scare.