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Republican state legislators in idaho organized a mask burning. Children burned masks while their parents cheered and took videos.

Teach your children well...
 
Hoopguru said:
Props to Brown for setting school restart.
Kids need to be back in school asap.
I have 2 grandkids that have been in a private school since the start of this and there has been zero cases. I have grandkids also that haven't attended in school for a year and its been very tough.
The teachers have been vaccinated with the understanding they will restart.
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See the post below yours about the B.1.1.7 variant’s exponential growth? That, combined with the one from South Africa and the one from Brazil are the dangers in opening schools too soon, IMO. The studies done by CDC and the results in schools like your grandkids’ reflect what to expect with the original virus, not the new more transmissible ones. Teachers may be vaccinated, but kids aren’t and neither are their families at home. There’s a real risk of blowing things up again.
 
My understanding now is that schools or public places won't be truly safe to open until next fall and that's only if 85% of the population is vaccinated and everyone follows mask wearing and hand washing protocols .....as to the latter...it's not looking good...the intellectually challenged among us have the attention span of a mosquito in a blizzard
 
crandc said:
Republican state legislators in idaho organized a mask burning. Children burned masks while their parents cheered and took videos.

Teach your children well...
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Crosby, Stills, Nash & Young - Teach Your Children

One of my all time favorite songs.
 
riverman said:
My understanding now is that schools or public places won't be truly safe to open until next fall and that's only if 85% of the population is vaccinated and everyone follows mask wearing and hand washing protocols .....as to the latter...it's not looking good...the intellectually challenged among us have the attention span of a mosquito in a blizzard
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According to Fauci we will achieve herd immunity when we have somewhere between 75% and 80% vaccination rate.
 
I quoted the song, not sarcastically, at my mother's funeral.

One of the legislators claims to have "done research" which of course is not cited, that wearing masks actually does "damage the soul". Also masks induce anxiety by reminding people of the pandemic. I would have thought the fix was getting pandemic under control, but hell, I'm just a scientist, I never researched "souls".
 
crandc said:
One of the legislators claims to have "done research" which of course is not cited, that wearing masks actually does "damage the soul". Also masks induce anxiety by reminding people of the pandemic. I would have thought the fix was getting pandemic under control, but hell, I'm just a scientist, I never researched "souls".
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Let me put my Wookie hat on. "Republicans have souls". LOL.
 
Wearing a dirty cloth mask and touching it constantly is unhealthy...

Dr Fauci says “There’s no reason to be walking around with a mask. When you’re in the middle of an outbreak, wearing a mask might make people feel a little bit better and it might even block a droplet, but it’s not providing the perfect protection that people think that it is. And, often, there are unintended consequences — people keep fiddling with the mask and they keep touching their face.”
 
crandc said:
I quoted the song, not sarcastically, at my mother's funeral.

One of the legislators claims to have "done research" which of course is not cited, that wearing masks actually does "damage the soul". Also masks induce anxiety by reminding people of the pandemic. I would have thought the fix was getting pandemic under control, but hell, I'm just a scientist, I never researched "souls".
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They haven't researched souls....they've just sold them
 
e_blazer said:
See the post below yours about the B.1.1.7 variant’s exponential growth? That, combined with the one from South Africa and the one from Brazil are the dangers in opening schools too soon, IMO. The studies done by CDC and the results in schools like your grandkids’ reflect what to expect with the original virus, not the new more transmissible ones. Teachers may be vaccinated, but kids aren’t and neither are their families at home. There’s a real risk of blowing things up again.
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I get it, the most at risk should have been vaccinated first too like many other States did. If the science and experts recommend closing schools across the board until further notice because of more threats then they should step up and be heard.
If they can closely monitor schools as they reopen with criteria that needs to be met that could help. It appears science also indicates the negative impact on kids has been tough.
 
Hoopguru said:
I get it, the most at risk should have been vaccinated first too like many other States did. If the science and experts recommend closing schools across the board until further notice because of more threats then they should step up and be heard.
If they can closely monitor schools as they reopen with criteria that needs to be met that could help. It appears science also indicates the negative impact on kids has been tough.
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I’m sure they will be watching the situation, but I am concerned that there’s a potential perfect storm coming that could blow things up quicker than the health officials can react. States are loosening restrictions dramatically in response to reduced cases, the variants are growing exponentially while cases of the original virus remain flat, and spring break is coming with it’s potential as a super-spreader event. All I’m saying is that vigilance is imperative.
 
HailBlazers said:
Wearing a dirty cloth mask and touching it constantly is unhealthy...

Dr Fauci says “There’s no reason to be walking around with a mask. When you’re in the middle of an outbreak, wearing a mask might make people feel a little bit better and it might even block a droplet, but it’s not providing the perfect protection that people think that it is. And, often, there are unintended consequences — people keep fiddling with the mask and they keep touching their face.”
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When exactly did Dr. Fauci say that? He's been saying the exact opposite for a year, over and over. He did say don't fiddle with mask. But wear it.
 
crandc said:
Exactly, early on much less was known and it was considered important to reserve masks, which were in short supply, for health workers. It is repeated endlessly by science deniers to try to pretend Dr. Fauci agrees with them.
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Yup. No shot intended at HailBlazers, but there's something pretty sad about folks who try to use old information that clearly doesn't conform with current scientific opinions, in an attempt to justify their behaviors. It's also pretty clear that CDC and Fauci really fouled up with their early messaging on masks. Whether that was because they really failed to understand the benefits (which seems doubtful to me), or because they wanted to try to dampen the public's demand for masks in order to save as many as possible for healthcare workers, or more likely, because of pressure from the Trump administration, I guess we'll never know for certain. But it's just incredibly dumb that something so simple and so effective has become such a political football.
 
Finally got scheduled for my first Moderna vaccination shot this evening...second shot iin April....they bumped me up after several pharmacies have refused me saying they still are trying to vaccinate people over 70......really happy to get this done and open up my life a bit more....feel better about being around my grandson 3 days a week now. Thank you VA!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Both my parents got the Moderna last weekend at Costco in Tigard. Heard they may be switching to J&J though.
 
BigGameDamian said:
https://www.wweek.com/news/state/20...tified-case-of-a-covid-19-variant-of-concern/

Oregon Is the First U.S. State to Have an Identified Case of the Latest COVID-19 “Variant of Concern”

More contagious variants of the coronavirus carry the risk of another surge and may make vaccines less effective.
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getting vaccinated doesn't mean you're cured...it means you have a better chance of surviving an infection. it also doesn't mean you can't transmit the virus by breathing on someone else which is why vaccinated people need to still wear masks in public until we achieve herd immunity. the only freedom is that I can be around other vaccinated people maskless indoors at a gathering and am less at risk going to the grocery store, etc. What's really a variant of concern is denial and refusal to mask up and get the shot
 
Got my first shot ....no reactions at 2.5 hours after....will get the second shot April 6th....feels great to be closer to some simple freedoms again. I did my best standup routine for the vets at the VA getting vaccinated with my group...left them laughing...the nurse was laughing so hard she had to put down her needle.....I felt like this small group of Nam vets were like me...hadn't been around people and talked to a stranger in a year....it was a fun evening all in all....glad to be home
 
andalusian said:
I actually try to wear a mask all the time I go hiking - it makes it a better workout...
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My physical therapist dropped by today. She tried to get me to walk around the house with my walker. It was doubly tough with that damned mask on. Thank your lucky stars that you can even hike at all.
 
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