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You're reading into it what you want. 14% of positive tests in Oregon are vaccinated. If you become infected it doesn't prevent you from transmitting the disease to somebody else.

But the vaccinated are less likely to become infected.
They are also less likely to become symptomatic and while asymptomatic infections are contagious because there is no coughing, sneezing and other behaviors that push larger viral loads into the air and into direct contact with others, they are far less contagious. Still, if you're in doors in public... I just don't see what the big deal is about putting a mask on... just fucking do it.
 
Why not ban unvaccinated persons then even with a COVID negative test? No exceptions, no kids.

This will ensure the safest possible scenario, even unmasked and it would encourage vaccinations.

What are you fussing about? Pretty sure the mask mandate will include the usual exceptions that let you not wear one when you're eating or drinking. So buy yourself the usual 10 beers and a hot dog and you won't have to wear one hardly at all.
 
What are you fussing about? Pretty sure the mask mandate will include the usual exceptions that let you not wear one when you're eating or drinking. So buy yourself the usual 10 beers and a hot dog and you won't have to wear one hardly at all.

Nah, I just won't go as it won't be as enjoyable to me personally.

Not a big deal to miss a live game, just a personal preference not to wear a mask if I can avoid it.

I'll catch the games on TV.....maybe.
 
Nah, I just won't go as it won't be as enjoyable to me personally.

Not a big deal to miss a live game, just a personal preference not to wear a mask if I can avoid it.

I'll catch the games on TV.....maybe.

I get that. I doubt that the mask mandate will last too long. If the delta variant surge follows the pattern it has elsewhere, it will peak sometime next month and then die back in a couple of months.
 
But again, why not just ban unvaccinated people altogether? Why even let them in both a negative covid test?
 
I get that. I doubt that the mask mandate will last too long. If the delta variant surge follows the pattern it has elsewhere, it will peak sometime next month and then die back in a couple of months.

Fall/Winter is coming. The virus will probably spread more with indoor gatherings, etc.
 
Fall/Winter is coming. The virus will probably spread more with indoor gatherings, etc.

Could be. All of those rug rats hitting the back-to-school petri dishes is bound to spread it, but more people are getting vaxxed all the time and a bunch are getting the disease itself. Only so much human cordwood for the delta fire.
 
yeah...the thing about the vaccination card is how many people got theirs from a homeless camp for a bottle of cheap whiskey...I don't trust people to tell the truth or be honest about their status pretty much...I'd wear a mask whether they required it or not
 
yeah...the thing about the vaccination card is how many people got theirs from a homeless camp for a bottle of cheap whiskey...I don't trust people to tell the truth or be honest about their status pretty much...I'd wear a mask whether they required it or not

QR code verification. Mine has a QR code. The thing is, the vaccines will "wear out" and you'll need to renew them. Best to do this now so they are all up to date.

Simple paper vaccine that anyone can fake is worthless and time consuming. They should be scannable.
 
Im torn. In no way do i want to harm others but to start denying things to people who arent vaxxed is not right.
Throw out the constitution.

The vax has had issues and i completely understand some people being hesitant or not getting it due to all the mixed messages, fake news, etc.

Whats next? No grocery shopping?
Im just saying you ban it here it wont make sense unless unvaxxed are banned everywhere.

and thats simply not realistic or fair.
 
Im torn. In no way do i want to harm others but to start denying things to people who arent vaxxed is not right.
Throw out the constitution.

The vax has had issues and i completely understand some people being hesitant or not getting it due to all the mixed messages, fake news, etc.

Whats next? No grocery shopping?
Im just saying you ban it here it wont make sense unless unvaxxed are banned everywhere.

and thats simply not realistic or fair.
The unvaxxed are not a protected minority. Nor should they be. The constitution doesn't apply to private businesses in this case.
 
The unvaxxed are not a protected minority. Nor should they be. The constitution doesn't apply to private businesses in this case.

im not saying they are. My point more so is it woukd be ridiculius to see a venue, private or public mandate vax only allowed when other venues arent.
But if they all did, unvaxxed people wouldnt be able to do anything at all and that is not fair considering it isnt a law to be vaxxed.
Sure private business can do what they want and watch their business/sales diminish because of it.
Im fully vaxxed ut if i see a venue do that i will not give them my money or support.

we all have choices.
 
im not saying they are. My point more so is it woukd be ridiculius to see a venue, private or public mandate vax only allowed when other venues arent.
But if they all did, unvaxxed people wouldnt be able to do anything at all and that is not fair considering it isnt a law to be vaxxed.
Sure private business can do what they want and watch their business/sales diminish because of it.
Im fully vaxxed ut if i see a venue do that i will not give them my money or support.

we all have choices.
How is it not "fair"? And what does fair have to do with it anyways? Again, privater companies that are looking after the best interest of their customers and more importantly their staff. Anti-vaxx isn't constitutionally protected. The free market can I guess decide if there's enough anti-vaxxers to "cancel" the pro-vax businesses.
 
How is it not "fair"? And what does fair have to do with it anyways? Again, privater companies that are looking after the best interest of their customers and more importantly their staff. Anti-vaxx isn't constitutionally protected. The free market can I guess decide if there's enough anti-vaxxers to "cancel" the pro-vax businesses.

its not fair because its not a law. But life isnt fair.
I get your point and agree. Private business have the roght to do as they please.

now to breakdown what i mean by not fair and ridiculous is, lets say jacks next door to the moda doesnt have the same mandate. What good is enforcing it at the game if the same people will go next door to a nonenforced establishment and spread it?

i think the key to winong over peole suspect is have some consitency.
Kate Brown fucked this all up by allowing. cHurches to congregate but not schools, etc.

There has not been any consistency to win over the concerned peoples faith.

So i see why some people are against the vax.

shits been bungled many times and people have doubts and question the decision making because of the lack of consistency.

there are many factors in it not being fair and again thats life, but people are going to react and push back on this lack of consistency and thats the bottom line.

People are fully within their rights to question things without ridicule, scrutiny or a banning.

But because that hasn't been acceptable to some who say shut up, fail in line, dont question a thing…we now have what we have.


I never thought so many people can get so heated and turn downright rude, by concerned people asking questions and looking for answers before they just… abide like sheep.

Shit. Isnt science based on questioning what we know?
 
its not fair because its not a law. But life isnt fair.
I get your point and agree. Private business have the roght to do as they please.

now to breakdown what i mean by not fair and ridiculous is, lets say jacks next door to the moda doesnt have the same mandate. What good is enforcing it at the game if the same people will go next door to a nonenforced establishment and spread it?

i think the key to winong over peole suspect is have some consitency.
Kate Brown fucked this all up by allowing. cHurches to congregate but not schools, etc.

There has not been any consistency to win over the concerned peoples faith.

So i see why some people are against the vax.

shits been bungled many times and people have doubts and question the decision making because of the lack of consistency.

there are many factors in it not being fair and again thats life, but people are going to react and push back on this lack of consistency and thats the bottom line.

People are fully within their rights to question things without ridicule, scrutiny or a banning.

But because that hasn't been acceptable to some who say shut up, fail in line, dont question a thing…we now have what we have.


I never thought so many people can get so heated and turn downright rude, by concerned people asking questions and looking for answers before they just… abide like sheep.

Shit. Isnt science based on questioning what we know?

Some people question because of a perceived lack of consistency. Others question because of Trump. Or because of Q. Or because of a friend on facebook. Or some other bullshit.
People are in their right to question something. If they then refuse to listen to many or all of the answers they seek, then they can stand for all the ridicule that comes their way.
Outright refusal under the guise of "just asking questions" isn't innocent.
People aren't losing rights be being banned. It's not a constitutional right to go to a basketball game. And denial because of vaccine status isn't protected.
 
So after reading this, am I to believe that we're not going back to our season seats yet, and have to buy single game tickets again for a shit price? Garbage.
 
it isn't hard to put it on.
Whats hard is to put it on and off and on and off while eating, drinking and screaming.

If you're screaming you should probably have it on. Your spit and germs would fly everywhere if you don't.

I'm just going to have scream louder through my mask. If there is such a thing as me screaming louder during games than I already do.
 
Again:

If everyone is vaccinated or has a negative COVID test, then why the mask mandate? The whole point of the vaccines was so we can get back to normal life.

Extra protection is always better
 
Everyone who attends the game will be vaccinated OR have a 72 hour negative COVID test. I think bearing this in mind and the relative risks, they shouldn't require masks. For one, it will show people who AREN'T vaccinated sitting at home, that people can enjoy life with no masks, normal. cheer the local hometown basketball sqaud.

But with the mask mandates, people at home are gonna be watching people on TV in masks, thinking the vaccines are bullshit because even if EVERYONE has the vaccine or negative COVID-test, they still have to have the mask on.

Thing is they could have gotten covid within those 72 hours.
 
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If you're screaming you should probably have it on. Your spit and germs would fly everywhere if you don't.

I'm just going to have scream louder through my mask. If there is such a thing as me screaming louder during games than I already do.

Not possible!!! Lol
 
Batman, Robin, Zorro and other crime fighters never complain about masks....come to think of it...Jim Carey made a fortune from wearing one....no big deal....people breath in and out at games and the virus can be transmitted from vaccinated people through the air....vaxed person one gives it to vax person two and vaxed person two leaves the game and breathes the virus out into an unsuspecting public....it's a simple precaustion to use protective gear until we are out of the woods on spiking cases...we never should have dropped the mask mandate after people got vaccinated to begin with...it doesn't really change your experience as an audience member to wear a mask.

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omg. Its not the same. Its not the same conversation. I think your seeing red and not reading man.

The question wasnt whether masks work.

The question is if everyone is vaccinated or has a negative test result within 72 hours, will the masks help at all? What are the odds of a breakout with everyone either masked or negative? If the percent is near nill then what help does wearing a mask do once everyone is wither vaccinated or negative?

Lets stay on track here and not try to belittle others based on a false equivalence.

Yes.

Just because people are vaccinated doesn't mean they can't get it, especially this new Delta Variant. Kids under 12 aren't vaccinated and are more vulnerable. People with 72 hour negative tests don't mean they didn't get it between then.

So yeah, it's very possible it can be spreadable games.

Also, in a packed arena with everyone yelling..
You know how much spit and germs are flying around that place?
 
MODS!!!!! Move this horseshit to OT!!!! Sly come get your boy!!!!

I can’t believe there are human beings actually walking amongst us who don’t believe masks help! Fucking A!

This will never end!

This is a thread regarding the Blazers. It is an appropriate thread for the main forum. For the time being it will stay.
 
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