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Seeing the reaction to this, shows how fucked we are if a plague that could wipe out millions or billions ever came back.

The world is painfully unprepared.
 
SlyPokerDog said:
I fear Trump will be more upset about this than actually focusing on the virus.
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Okay so we should probably curb the politics but that "Oil Prices" fluctuation has more to do with a price war caused by the Russians/Putin. Here is the thing. Putin knows the entire world is on edge. He knows the best way to bring Russia back up to relevancy is to hammer the US when there is a problem. The Coronavirus has set the stage for him to do just that. Even if it hurts Russia also. He figures to take everyone down and level the playing field on the economy front.
Of course our current administration will get caught reacting instead of leading and responding And as of now the Dow is set to plunge about 1300 points.

Stop Losses are in place. They call it "Limit Down"
 
PtldPlatypus said:
And I hate commuting. Wanna trade places?

Wait, I'd have to live in Indiana. Never mind.
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My niece lives in Indiana. Her husband used to work there but now works in Chicago. My niece can't wait to get the hell out of Indiana.
 
illmatic99 said:
I don't. As much as I applaud the proactive nature of the idea, I hate working from home.
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With having a bunch of kids I find it really hard to concentrate at home. In theory, it's great, in practice it's not very productive most of the time.
 
TorturedBlazerFan said:
With having a bunch of kids I find it really hard to concentrate at home. In theory, it's great, in practice it's not very productive most of the time.
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Whereas my kids are teenagers, so they spend most of the day at school, and basically avoid me when they're home.
 
I'm traveling to Austin next week. Glad I wasn't planning on going to SXSW, because they cancelled that. I hope they throw some free events for the locals though, because I anticipate businesses are going to be trying to get people out and about to recoup some of their losses.
 
So... I don't really get why people keep trying to compare this to the flu, or car accidents, or whatever, and say, "X" many people die per year of these things. Only "Y" people have died of this so far, so, therefore, this isn't a big deal. I do tend to think there is a bigger deal being made of this than needs to be (it's hard to know what "info" out there is real or not), but these comparisons don't make sense it's apples to oranges. Were comparing something fairly "new", to something not new and not contained at all. Do they want this to get like the flu, where no one pays attention but 27-70k people die a year from it because it's not contained and stopped? If we could wouldn't it be great if when influenza started we could go back and contain/kill it off back then?

I think the "panic" and "fearmongering" aspect of this is over the top at times, but the "denial" and act like nothings happening seems just as crazy if not more crazy to me... We have the technology and know-how now to actually prevent and keep new virus' from becoming plague-like influenza is and has been why ignore it..?
 
TorturedBlazerFan said:
So... I don't really get why people keep trying to compare this to the flu, or car accidents, or whatever, and say, "X" many people die per year of these things. Only "Y" people have died of this so far, so, therefore, this isn't a big deal. I do tend to think there is a bigger deal being made of this than needs to be (it's hard to know what "info" out there is real or not), but these comparisons don't make sense it's apples to oranges. Were comparing something fairly "new", to something not new and not contained at all. Do they want this to get like the flu, where no one pays attention but 27-70k people die a year from it because it's not contained and stopped? If we could wouldn't it be great if when influenza started we could go back and contain/kill it off back then?

I think the "panic" and "fearmongering" aspect of this is over the top at times, but the "denial" and act like nothings happening seems just as crazy if not more crazy to me... We have the technology and know-how now to actually prevent and keep new virus' from becoming plague-like influenza is and has been why ignore it..?
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It’s goofy logic to compare numbers of death between flu and covid-19. People point at the flu deaths to say that the Coronavirus outbreak is being over-hyped. All you have to do is consider two facts to realize that’s not true. First, the death rate is 10 to 30 times greater with covid-19 than currently circulating influenzas. Second, with flu we have effective vaccines that can prevent or reduce the severity of flu. That means the potential number of deaths that could result if covid-19 becomes widespread could be in the hundreds of thousands. There’s little hope of a vaccine sooner than a year or so, so we’re left with hand washing and social distancing to try to slow this. Yeah, flu sucks, but this has the potential to suck squared.
 
e_blazer said:
It’s goofy logic to compare numbers of death between flu and covid-19. People point at the flu deaths to say that the Coronavirus outbreak is being over-hyped. All you have to do is consider two facts to realize that’s not true. First, the death rate is 10 to 30 times greater with covid-19 than currently circulating influenzas. Second, with flu we have effective vaccines that can prevent or reduce the severity of flu. That means the potential number of deaths that could result if covid-19 becomes widespread could be in the hundreds of thousands. There’s little hope of a vaccine sooner than a year or so, so we’re left with hand washing and social distancing to try to slow this. Yeah, flu sucks, but this has the potential to suck squared.
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Well, the other side of this is, because it's "new" we really don't know what the numbers will even out to. The death-rate could drop drastically or go up drastically. Seems smarter as a society to do what you can to prevent outbreak until you have a better view of things. A couple of months of numbers isn't a long term view of it. What we have so far says it's lethal especially amongst seniors. So act on the information we have now, do what we can to contain it. Quit comparing it to "long term known" quantities because it doesn't make sense. Quit saying it's just the flu because it's not. I just don't get this desire to dismiss it... I've had this conversation all weekend as my parents (both well educated btw) are like eh who cares the media just needs a story. I'm just like ok, yeah lets ignore dangers and let them get worse that seems reasonable... /headdesk...
 
TorturedBlazerFan said:
Well, the other side of this is, because it's "new" we really don't know what the numbers will even out to. The death-rate could drop drastically or go up drastically. Seems smarter as a society to do what you can to prevent outbreak until you have a better view of things. A couple of months of numbers isn't a long term view of it. What we have so far says it's lethal especially amongst seniors. So act on the information we have now, do what we can to contain it. Quit comparing it to "long term known" quantities because it doesn't make sense. Quit saying it's just the flu because it's not. I just don't get this desire to dismiss it... I've had this conversation all weekend as my parents (both well educated btw) are like eh who cares the media just needs a story. I'm just like ok, yeah lets ignore dangers and let them get worse that seems reasonable... /headdesk...
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I gave the range for the death rates that are currently being reported (1-3.4%). By all means, we should hope it ends up being less than that, but we should plan accordingly in trying to diminish the spread. As far as your parents’ response, it’s pretty typical to expect that things are overhyped because they generally are. In this case, since I am in about the same age bracket as your folks and it’s definitely a higher risk category, I’m taking extra precautions (hand washing, avoiding crowds, no unnecessary travel, etc.) but trying to continue with life as much as possible.
 
Italy's death toll leaps by 97 in one day to 463 as alarming photos emerge of patients hooked up to life support machines inside quarantine-zone hospital while medics in hazmat suits battle to save them
  • The spike marks a 20 per cent rise in the coronavirus death rate within 24 hours in the European country
  • Photos show medics in full protective suits with gloves, goggles and face masks treating patients in Cremona
  • Giuseppe Conte pleaded with Italians to 'protect the health of our loved ones' by obeying the new lockdown
  • He told people not to 'counter these measures or dodge them' after 16million people were put in quarantine
  • Police were today manning checkpoints in Lombardy after the region and 14 provinces were shut down
  • Italy's death toll soared from 133 to 366 yesterday, becoming the highest in the world outside China
  • Foreign Office said British tourists 'are free to return home or complete their holiday' under Italian guidelines
  • Six prisoners died amid jailhouse riots across Italy in protest at a ban on family visits because of coronavirus
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...assioned-plea-16-million-obey-quarantine.html
 
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