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SlyPokerDog said:
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Fox Business Network 'parts ways' with Trish Regan days after primetime host was put on hiatus for saying coronavirus was a 'scam to impeach Trump'
  • Host of Trish Regan Primetime no longer works for Fox Business Network
  • Regan, 47, said in a statement she wants to 'focus on my family'
  • Fox Business Network put her show on hiatus on March 13
  • Network said at the time it wanted to devote air time to coronavirus outbreak
  • On March 9, Regan sparked outraged over remarks during her monologue
  • She said coronavirus was a 'scam' invented by Democrats to 'impeach Trump'
  • After show's suspension, Fox hosts changed tone of coronavirus commentary
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...n-days-host-benched-coronavirus-comments.html
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When a fucked up network like Fox News let's someone go because they're too fucked up, well, that's really saying something.
 
SlyPokerDog said:
Trump says he's directed Pence not to call governors who aren't 'grateful' for federal aid

President Donald Trump bashed governors he claims weren't "grateful" enough for federal assistance, and said he's directed Vice President Mike Pence not to call such governors unless they "treat him right."

In particular, Trump called out Washington Gov. Jay Inslee — calling him "a failed presidential candidate" — and Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer, who he said, "has no idea what's going on."

"I say Mike (Pence), don't call the governor of Washington; you're wasting your time with him. Don't call the woman in Michigan," Trump said. "It doesn't make any difference. You know what I say? If they don't treat you right, don't call."

https://www.wtkr.com/news/national/...aily-briefing-after-trump-signs-stimulus-bill
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What a swell guy that Trump is.
 
tlongII said:
Hi neighbor!
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Are you that dirty old man who subscribes to all that pornography? I'm sorry if some of it was accidentally picked up out of your mailbox by me. I'll return it in a year or so (emphasis on the "or so").
 
Trump postponed his conversation with the president of China in order to call Hannity and cry about the real victim, him
 
Trump postponed his call with the president of China in order to call Hannity and cry about the real victim, himself.
 
This is fascinating and scary. I didn't know there was publicly available data to track the movements of cell phone users.

What a giant shit show to not close the beaches in Florida.

 
SlyPokerDog said:
This is fascinating and scary. I didn't know there was publicly available data to track the movements of cell phone users.

What a giant shit show to not close the beaches in Florida.

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Wow, that program was super cool
 
Orion Bailey said:
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/us...r-pandemics-johns-hopkins-study-found-in-2019
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OB, that was posted before and I'm not sure what the point is. It came from Fox news so I'm sure what their motivation is and that's to defend trump.

but there's little more in that articles besides the headline saying "US best prepared". There's no description of criteria used or data applied. I'm assuming that's explained if you follow links and spend a few hours analyzing, but I'm not going to bother because it's irrelevant IMO. It doesn't mean shit

we don't know what assumptions were used. The articles does say the analysis was done in 2018 and 2019, so the first question would be if the assumption was the US had a leg up because they had a pandemic response team at the top of the Homeland Security department. But of course, trump and john bolton effectively disbanded the team in 2018; probably because it was important to insulate trump from people who used science, facts, and logic to inform policy. Can have that near Captain Ignorant

and we don't know how much of that study was based upon the CDC's past ability to implement testing. If it was substantial, then the massive failure of trump's version of the CDC to develop testing for Corona destroys a big part of that study.

and I don't know how much of the assumptions were based upon infrastructure and supply inventories. But those don't matter if there's refusal of leadership to accept reality and scientific projections and modeling, with the result being critical delays in activating infrastructure and delivering supplies

in other words, there's plenty of evidence that trump's ignorance and ideological conceit undermined whatever mechanisms we had in place to combat this pandemic. Quick reactions by the federal government including directives to states were absolutely needed, and none of it happened. Instead it was 2-4 weeks delays in response and for a disease that spread exponentially, that spells disaster

finally, because that article was promulgated around the net to defend trump, we need to add the context of today to the issue. And today, there are two things that are clear:

* 1) the narcissistic sociopathic imbecile in the white house may be actually denying aid to states led by governors who don't kiss his ass. That would be fucking criminal. These are life and death situations and if trump is essentially willing to let mothers, and fathers, and sisters, and children die in states like Michigan and Washington because of his horrible vindictive ego, we've reached a new low.

* 2) trump is pushing hard thru his statements to revoke all the measures states have taken to combat this virus and "open the economy" back up, even though anybody with a brain AND a functioning moral compass knows the arbitrary deadline trump wants is bullshit. This is all about trump's re-election campaign, that's clear. It's not about what's best for the nation

bottom line: what's ironic is trump supporters posting that study to defend trump. But the reality is if the US was actually best prepared (which I don't believe), then it's an indictment of trump's leadership, not a defense
 
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wizenheimer said:
OB, that was posted before and I'm not sure what the point is. It came from Fox news so I'm sure what the motivation is and that's to defend trump.

but there's little more in that articles besides the headline saying "US best prepared". There's no description of criteria used or data applied. I'm assuming that's explained if you follow links and spend a few hours analyzing, but I'm not going to bother because it's irrelevant IMO. It doesn't mean shit

we don't know what assumptions were used. The articles does say the analysis was done in 2018 and 2019, so the first question would be if the assumption was the US had a leg up because they had a pandemic response team at the top of the Homeland Security department. But of course, trump and john bolton effectively disbanded the team in 2018; probably because it was important to insulate trump from people who used science, facts, and logic to inform policy. Can have that near Captain Ignorant

and we don't know how much of that study was based upon the CDC's past ability to implement testing. If it was substantial, then the massive failure of trump's version of the CDC to develop testing for Corona destroys a big part of that study.

and I don't know how much of the assumptions were based upon infrastructure and supply inventories. But those don't matter if there's refusal of leadership to accept reality and scientific projections and modeling, with the result being critical delays in activating infrastructure and delivering supplies

in other words, there's plenty of evidence that trump's ignorance and ideological conceit undermined whatever mechanisms we had in place to combat this pandemic. Quick reactions by the federal government including directives to states were absolutely needed, and none of it happened. Instead it was 2-4 weeks delays in response and for a disease that spread exponentially, that spells disaster

finally, because that article was promulgated around the net to defend trump, we need to add the context of today to the issue. And today, there are two things that are clear:

* 1) the narcissistic sociopathic imbecile in the white house may be actually denying aid to states led by governors who don't kiss his ass. That would be fucking criminal. These are life and death situations and if trump is essentially willing to let mothers, and fathers, and sisters, and children die in states like Michigan and Washington because of his horrible vindictive ego, we've reached a new low.

* 2) trump is pushing hard thru his statements to revoke all the measures states have taken to combat this virus and "open the economy" back up, even though anybody with a brain AND a functioning moral compass knows the arbitrary deadline trump wants is bullshit. This is all about trump's re-election campaign, that's clear. It's not about what's best for the nation

bottom line: what's ironic is trump supporters posting that study to defend trump. But the reality is if the US was actually best prepared (which I don't believe), then it's an indictment of trump's leadership, not a defense
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first time i had seen the link including here. I was passing it on. Nothing more. Your assumption that im defending trump is a big issue though. stop assuming. If i was posting it to defend Trump, i would have stated as much.
I didnt even read the rest because if its based off your first statement, you already drove down the wrong road.
Not trying to be a dick, but i really am getting tired of not being able to post much of anything unobjectively without being tossed into a sect, or whatever trump haters wanna call it.
Seriously. Would you all knock that off already?
 
tlongII said:
That's quite a jump you're making there.
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No, it's not. Trump is denying certain states medical equipment because he doesn't like the Governors. This will cause people to die who might have otherwise lived. He is in effect killing people.

All he cares about is himself. He is an insecure, butthurt, arrogant ass who is playing with the lives of American citizens.
 
Orion Bailey said:
but i really am getting tired of not being able to post much of anything unobjectively without being tossed into a sect, or whatever trump haters wanna call it.
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that's bullshit....read my post again and tell me where it was I attacked you specifically for the post you made

you posted a link...I reacted to the fucking link and I didn't attack you personally. If you interpreted my reply as such, that's your problem reading things between the lines that weren't there

so no, I won't "knock that off already", because I was expressing my opinion on something posted here. And I'm noticing you didn't respond to a single argument I made; you just decided to be hyper-sensitive to a response. I've posted plenty of links in this forum and have had plenty of push-back and opposing views. I almost never take the push-back personally. I suggest maybe you should knock it off
 
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Chris Craig said:
No, it's not. Trump is denying certain states medical equipment because he doesn't like the Governors. This will cause people to die who might have otherwise lived. He is in effect killing people.

All he cares about is himself. He is an insecure, butthurt, arrogant ass who is playing with the lives of American citizens.
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You are quoting the governor of Michigan whose statements may or may not be true.
 
tlongII said:
You are quoting the governor of Michigan whose statements may or may not be true.
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Trump told Pence not to call the governors of Michigan and Washington. That's certain and if you believe that's as far as it goes you haven't been paying attention to the last 3 years
 
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