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Here's some whataboutism for ya. How many people were deported and left behind kids that were born here while Obama was President?
Obama!!!!
Oh, come on, Brian. That ban is because most of those people are Muslim. He said as much during his campaign. He only tempered it so he could get it through the Right leaning Supreme Court.
The Clinton Foundation has won accolades while the Trump Foundation is for Trump's personal use. It took 6 months of pestering by the press before he gave his $1 Million to the Vets he promised it to six months earlier.
It's a recent past.
I didn't (don't?) pay attention to many campaign speeches, but the "new" ban (they added Chad and Venezuela and removed Iraq, which, last time I checked, had about 40M Islamic adherents in it.
He's doing that to make his swipe at Muslims slightly more palatable. He point blank stated he wanted to keep Muslims out. Now, he's constantly refining it so he looks better to those on the fence.
I ignore what most people say and focus on what they do, especially in today's society where you don't get blackballed for lying and very few people live up to their oaths. But he must really be fooling us all if he places women within his administration, allows people like Sarah Sanders and Hope Hicks (before she messed up) to speak for the administration, to have KellyAnne Conway as his de facto Chief of Staff...he's been good friends with Oprah, Anna Wintour and Barbara Walters for almost 30 years...
Child Protective Services takes children way because they are mistreated by their families. This largely does not apply to the case of immigrant children.Millions of people are trafficked every year, and somewhere between 10k and 50k into the US. It's a much bigger deal than "kids being ripped from their moms at the border" is, at least to me. But I'm biased, b/c I work with organizations trying to stop human trafficking.
CPS takes about 150k children per year from their parents and puts them in foster care. About 2/3 of them find "forever families" or go back home, but that's approximately 500k in foster care at any one time.
I'm all for giving children amnesty, but they go against many of the arguments that (in general, not assuming anyone on here's opinion) liberal/progressive people espouse. To name a few:
1) I've already stated multiple times that I think we need better/faster processing of immigrants, whether the decision is eventually yes or no. But that's a "government worker" problem, and the "government union" aspect is protecting a lot of those underperforming workers.
2) I've already stated that we need to look at the number of visas, immigrants, work/student visas, etc. that we allow. I used to think it was way too low. It still may be. But only 4k of the 20k "asylum" slots allocated so far this FY have been used. Put another way, our legislation shows that we could take in the next 16k legitimate asylum seekers easily and legally. So what's stopping them? Is it #1, or is it that there aren't that many "real" asylum candidates, or...?
3) I think we should take care of trafficked children. But some things go with that. A) They all came from somewhere...maybe they were an orphan, maybe not. Maybe their parents are looking for them, maybe not. I personally (anecdotally) know of one girl in China who was bought out of sex slavery from a brothel in the big city and sent home. Her father sold her back into slavery within a month. B) Our own foster care system is pretty jacked up and unregulated. I'm sure there are a ton of awesome foster families out there (our church has at least 4), but if we're not taking good care of children already due to overburden on the system, will taking in special needs children (language, probably some mental issues with sex slavery, etc) help or hurt the children, or those already in the system?
4) If we do decide to bring them in, why in the world are they not bioregistered and tracked? Every Afghan that came to the gates of our base in Helmand got fingerprinted, eyescanned, and other biometric data taken and logged. You're telling me we cannot do that with children at a US Border Station?!
5) Are we sure (real question---I don't know the answer) that having, say, a Honduran 4 year-old in the US in a foster home is better than in a Honduran orphanage?
These are questions I've struggled with for almost 20 years, since I went on a summer mission to a Guatemalan orphanage run by a Christian organization with government approval. I've visited orphanages in West Africa and worked closely with one when I was in Helmand. I've also been inside prisons in the same places. I don't know all the answers, but I'm pretty sure that people aren't understanding all the issues involved (through no fault of their own--none of us are living this). Anyone who thinks that we as American citizens are the bad guys are just not seeing the big picture correctly.
It's been partially discussed above, but you can at least get a good deal of certainty about whether or not someone is a blood relative. Per my anecdote above, that doesn't always guarantee that everything's on the up-and-up, but it's a good first step.
Is trafficking a big problem with children immigrating here?
That's one step, but not always the case. 1/3 of CPS cases in which children are taken in "imminent danger" are shown not be ex post facto. The other ways that children can be taken are vague: "Maltreatment", which has variously been used to have children taken away from parents who administered spankings ("excessive corporal punishment"), lived off-grid for the summer camping, and let their kids walk to a park by themselves. Part of the reason the water problems in Flint and Detroit weren't taken care of more quickly was that people were afraid that if they reported that they had no running water CPS would take their children.
Yes.
Lanny parrots the speak of many of liberals. I know it is asking much, it takes a lot of reading to come to grips with the fact, religions are not all equal, not all created with the good intent.
I thought you might understand that was a hint of a request for a link.
So there are a few.
Aside from the ones in the reply to barfo's post (above), here's a State Dept one where it spelled out ~15k/yr into the US. Many other reports (like UNESCO briefs) show that that number has risen, both in the US and worldwide, in the last decade. It's hard to pin down exact numbers, as UNESCO states:
Lanny is a liberal...he parrots no one but rather speaks for himself...you seem to have this issue with people who don't parrot your line