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Mediocre Man said:
With the way Joe and Mike value defense, length and mobility, I would be shocked if Ant and Nurk are on this roster come opening night
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Nurk is gone for sure. Ant on the other hand gives us a shooter off the bench. His salary is not as bad as it was a few days ago.
 
Pinwheel1 said:
Nurk is gone for sure. Ant on the other hand gives us a shooter off the bench. His salary is not as bad as it was a few days ago.
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Nobody wants Nurk. We couldn't give him away.
 
Chris Craig said:
I don't see him ever having a winning season coaching here.
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I think Spoelstra was a big factor in Dame choosing Miami...we failed Dame with a rookie coach at the prime of his career. Anyway, Dame asked for a trade...I don't buy that the FO forced his hand, they just gave his buddy Jerami the bag to re-sign so half his wish list was accomplished on day one...this couldn't have been contingent on Draymond signing here alone.
 
andalusian said:
I disagree, it is just taking longer because the cancer was so bad that it will take time to restructure the roster. Either way, I will remember his stint fondly, but it's time to go forward.
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Lmao what cancer? Cronin is the guy who has given out contracts and extensions to every player on the roster.

You're not seriously still blaming Olshey with a straight face are you?
 
AmirIcon said:
Lmao what cancer? Cronin is the guy who has given out contracts and extensions to every player on the roster.

You're not seriously still blaming Olshey with a straight face are you?
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Cronin is just Olshey without the asshole. Same shit different day. Snake oil.
 
inconceivable said:
I wanna keep Ant now too. He can play 1 or 2, but I also want Scoot and Shaedon to start at 1 and 2. I know shae can play 3 but we'd be small.
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if Ant is a Blazer, he starts....that's about as certain as anything for Portland right now. Either Scoot of Sharpe will come off the bench
 
wizenheimer said:
but Portland would not save money by cutting him. His salary would be about the same as a vet minimum. And now we're hearing Portland wants young players and draft picks for Dame. Watford is 22
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This is a classic case of Blazer fans over valuing hard working end of roster guys. Watford was not growing into a legit rotation player ever.
 
Rastapopoulos said:
Heat, Clippers and 76ers? Yuck - between the three of them they couldn't pool enough assets to interest me.
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There is no definitive list. We will get Dame to a good situation for him we better also get back the best package a good team can offer us. I've been saying this for a while but Brooklyn will probably make the most sense.
 
Wizard Mentor said:
Joe sucks, but I don't blame him. Last year's draft was a revelation, and we killed it this draft.
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Agreed. It appears we really scored in consecutive drafts. The payoff may be a bit longer but we’d be nuts not to go this route. Tanking couldn’t have worked much better.
 
Chris Craig said:
Cronin is just Olshey without the asshole. Same shit different day. Snake oil.
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I'm inclined to believe Cronin would be better if he didn't have the cheapskates that are Jody and Vulcan presiding over him.

Olshey had Paul Allen who was at least better and wanted to win. Everyone including Dame held onto Olshey/Stotts/CJ for far too long.
 
AmirIcon said:
Lmao what cancer? Cronin is the guy who has given out contracts and extensions to every player on the roster.

You're not seriously still blaming Olshey with a straight face are you?
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100% - I do not believe there is any way to restructure that mess NeO left without a long process. It does not work unless people are willing to come to Portland to play with Dame. There was only 1 guy that really wanted to do that and Cronin got him. He had to retain some of the talent to try and make trades and he did it. He had to nail his drafts and he seems to have done that as well. Yes, this is 100% a process to fix the mess NeO left. Anyone that expected a miracle of turning that poo poo plater into gold on a dime thinks the Portland is downtown LA or Miami Beach. It's not.
 
Wizard Mentor said:
Joe sucks, but I don't blame him. Last year's draft was a revelation, and we killed it this draft.
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Yeah, just wish he could have been real with Dame about it and who knows maybe he was but to me it felt like Joe said one thing and did the opposite too many times and Dame departing is on him. There will be plenty of time to be excited about our young guys. Right now for me it's a time to mourn the loss of Dame and Joe is the guy who is taking Dame from us in my opinion.
 
Chris Craig said:
Nobody wants Nurk. We couldn't give him away.
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I didn't say we would get value for him, I just said he will be gone. It may take until the trade deadline (when other teams have injuries and are desperate) but surely you agree he won't be here long-term.
 
Chris Craig said:
I don't see him ever having a winning season coaching here.
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Chauncey strikes me as one of those coaches that might be good at teaching young pros the ropes, building that foundation, but not the guy to be able to make the team overall a championship contender.

If the Blazers go into a full tank and just are going to play young guys with a few, savvy, non-descript vets in the rotation to in essence serve as glorified assistant coaches, he might be worth keeping around for another year or two to build some professionalism and toughness. Then the Blazers go out and get a guy that knows how to push the buttons to make good young players a team that can win playoff series.
 
wizenheimer said:
if Ant is a Blazer, he starts....that's about as certain as anything for Portland right now. Either Scoot of Sharpe will come off the bench
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That makes no sense. But the way we're going I suppose it's possible.

I think he'll end up coming off the bench.
 
blazerkor said:
Yeah, just wish he could have been real with Dame about it and who knows maybe he was but to me it felt like Joe said one thing and did the opposite too many times and Dame departing is on him. There will be plenty of time to be excited about our young guys. Right now for me it's a time to mourn the loss of Dame and Joe is the guy who is taking Dame from us in my opinion.
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I hear you, but Dame should have given JoeCro at least 2 more weeks.
 
AmirIcon said:
That makes no sense. But the way we're going I suppose it's possible.

I think he'll end up coming off the bench.
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It makes all the sense in the world. If he stays, he starts to build his trade value.
 
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