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fanspo-nba-trade-machine-snap_7-1-2023_9-24-54PM.png What do folks think of this trade. I think it gets us a Lillard worthy haul. I like Jovic and Duncan Robinson is reasonably young. Simmons can help us tank for a couple of years and then he's a massive expiring and required for the Nets to take Herro, I considered getting two 1sts from the Nets but thought that might be greedy. It might be worth it to them to pay a 1st just to dump Simmons. They have F tons of 1sts and they'd get some cap relief here to boot along with Herro. All those 1sts sure look juicy. View attachment 56541
 

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how about we get 5 really good players from 4 different teams, then package it up for Joe to send Dame where he wants to go?

If anyone hasn't been following this team, Cronin is on a different level of terrible managing. If an opposing team wants a good Blazer, just toss some cash and draft picks in Joe's direction.
 
CJ_is_Gone said:
IF this is really Dame's stance - then Joe just needs to wait it out.

There's no urgency to get this done today or even this week. Take the time to make sure there's a good offer
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has anybody bothered to check Amick's credibility? Last I remember he was considered to be kind of a hack
 
Idog1976 said:
What do folks think of this trade. I think it gets us a Lillard worthy hall. I like Jovic and Duncan Robinson is reasonably young. Simmons can help us tank for a couple of years and then he's a massive expiring and required for the Nets to take Herro, I considered getting two 1sts from the Nets but thought that might be greedy. It might be worth it to them to pay a 1st just to dump Simmons. They have F tons of 1sts and they'd get some cap relief here to boot along with Herro. All those 1sts sure look juicy. View attachment 56541
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I love redemption stories and understand mental issues that mess with mindset, so while I would love to see Simmons get an opportunity here, I really think this team needs shooters who play defense. I think he would get in the way of Scoot and Sharpe driving in the paint. Duncan can shoot but can't play defense. That's a rough duo for this teams needs.

I would prefer to see a Cam Johnson + Picks, but Dame said no.
 
Simmons is the type of situation I’d take a flyer on, but it’s the wrong player. Ball needs to be in Scoot and Shaedon hands.
 
Idog1976 said:
View attachment 56543 What do folks think of this trade. I think it gets us a Lillard worthy haul. I like Jovic and Duncan Robinson is reasonably young. Simmons can help us tank for a couple of years and then he's a massive expiring and required for the Nets to take Herro, I considered getting two 1sts from the Nets but thought that might be greedy. It might be worth it to them to pay a 1st just to dump Simmons. They have F tons of 1sts and they'd get some cap relief here to boot along with Herro. All those 1sts sure look juicy. View attachment 56541
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Make the Nets take Duncan Robinson and we get Royce instead.
 
The Blazers get Duncan Robinson, Lauri Markkanen, Kelly Olynyk, Nikola Jovic, 24 and 26 fist round picks

Jazz get Tylor Hero, Jusuf Nurkic and Nassir Little.

Heat get Dame Lillard
 
bemac said:
I love redemption stories and understand mental issues that mess with mindset, so while I would love to see Simmons get an opportunity here, I really think this team needs shooters who play defense. I think he would get in the way of Scoot and Sharpe driving in the paint. Duncan can shoot but can't play defense. That's a rough duo for this teams needs.

I would prefer to see a Cam Johnson + Picks, but Dame said no.
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Do we have proof Dame has vetoed a Nets trade? I don’t think he has a trade clause in his contract. When he asked for a trade he cashed in his loyalty card. We are under no obligation to trade Dame to the Heat and get fleeced.
 
Oh and Simmons is mostly just a monster expiring and required for the Nets to be able to take Herro, but he could play point forward as a facilitator not the primary ball handler. If he makes us lose thats fine as long as it doesn’t stymie the growth of Scoot and Sharpe. So just bring him off the bench if need be, or just bench him and let him turn into am expiring next year and shop him for a first.
 
BigGameDamian said:
The Blazers get Duncan Robinson, Lauri Markkanen, Kelly Olynyk, Nikola Jovic, 24 and 26 fist round picks

Jazz get Tylor Hero, Jusuf Nurkic and Nassir Little.

Heat get Dame Lillard
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I guess I could get behind that trade haha
 
Idog1976 said:
View attachment 56543 What do folks think of this trade. I think it gets us a Lillard worthy haul. I like Jovic and Duncan Robinson is reasonably young. Simmons can help us tank for a couple of years and then he's a massive expiring and required for the Nets to take Herro, I considered getting two 1sts from the Nets but thought that might be greedy. It might be worth it to them to pay a 1st just to dump Simmons. They have F tons of 1sts and they'd get some cap relief here to boot along with Herro. All those 1sts sure look juicy. View attachment 56541
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what I think of that trade is that Fanspo (if that's where it's from) has some real bad data

start with the picks:

* Miami does not have a 2026 pick to trade. The first pick they can trade is their 2028 1st

* Brooklyn does not own the 2028 Phoenix first; they own 2025, 2027, 2029

as to the rest...there's no way the Blazers take on Ben Simmons AND Robinson. Robinson isn't necessary for salary matching and he's a negative asset from Portland's POV. Delete him

and I have an extremely hard time seeing the Nets willing to trade two first round picks for Herro. I guess maybe if they get to dump Simmons they might

finally, ...Miami is getting Dame cheap as hell in this trade...way too cheap. At minimum they need to send Caleb Martin and 3 or 4 second round picks to Portland. And fuck Pat Riley for hurrying to get Jaquez signed. If Cronin had balls he'd force Miami to wait the 30 days and then add Jaquez to the deal. And the Blazers get the option to swap 2029 first's

by the way, Robinson is 29 years old
 
SlyPokerCat said:
Make the Nets take Duncan Robinson and we get Royce instead.
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I actually like this one a lot better, we get more young talent this way by scooping up the Nets picks from this year, I didn't realize Duncan Robinson was 27. Plus these guys are wings or bigs.

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B-Roy said:
Simmons is the type of situation I’d take a flyer on, but it’s the wrong player. Ball needs to be in Scoot and Shaedon hands.
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I wouldn't trade for him unless he was clear that he's not the point guard.
 
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