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I don't really know what Maxey's value is. In theory I'd be OK with getting him and Tobias Harris and re-routing him, but I'm not sure what the return could be. Could we get Jarret Allen or Jeremy Sochan? Any interest in the Hawks young center? Would Nic Claxton be gettable with Maxey?
 
maxey is, just like scoot & sharpe, potential all-star player (guy is efficient, elite 3-point shooter)

portland would be the most exciting young team, no-one would have more young talent than us
 
It's so hard to know what is true and what isn't.

Obviously, if stuff like this is true, and Ant's value is that low, then you can understand why holding onto him makes some sense. Cronin would've been ripped for that trade by some and certainly would've been ripped if he gave up more. A no win situation.
Hmm... you think something like this would have been criticized by Blazers fans?

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That might have been a Dame-saving trade, and it seems in the realm of reality for Toronto.

Personally, I am not sure I would have been happy, but I could have seen it, and our starting lineup of
Dame
Sharpe
OG
Grant
Nurk

would be pretty darn good and balanced. We'd still need to add bigs, but it would have balanced the roster a bit and made us better immediately.
 

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Take it for what it’s worth but one whisper I’ve heard is Zion as centerpiece of a Dame deal with NOP.

I don’t expect this trade to happen quickly…it’s going to be a game of cat and mouse for sure.
 
I don't really know what Maxey's value is. In theory I'd be OK with getting him and Tobias Harris and re-routing him, but I'm not sure what the return could be. Could we get Jarret Allen or Jeremy Sochan? Any interest in the Hawks young center? Would Nic Claxton be gettable with Maxey?
Maxey actually grew up on a Value farm, picking fresh Value out of the ground with his family. Put to work at the young age of 8, this broke his spirit. He spent his teenage years not wanting to see Value any longer. He was sick of it. So value left him. There was Value for breakfast, Value for dinner, Value in his sweat and blood, but coincidentally no Value in the most important place: his reflection in the mirror. As a young adult, he began a new chapter as a basketball player, roaming the country from one city to the next seeking to reclaim the Value he once knew.
 
Take it for what it’s worth but one whisper I’ve heard is Zion as centerpiece of a Dame deal with NOP.

I don’t expect this trade to happen quickly…it’s going to be a game of cat and mouse for sure.
THAT would be a fascinating trade. It could result in us basically giving Dame away (while paying a massive salary for a dude who can't get on the floor) or result in the Blazers adding a future hall of famer.
 
Hmm... you think something like this would have been criticized by Blazers fans?

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That might have been a Dame-saving trade, and it seems in the realm of reality for Toronto.

Personally, I am not sure I would have been happy, but I could have seen it, and our starting lineup of
Dame
Sharpe
OG
Grant
Nurk

would be pretty darn good and balanced. We'd still need to add bigs, but it would have balanced the roster a bit and made us better immediately.

1000% some fans would've criticized it. I don't know if I heard it or read it, but on June 30th, I believe some felt we should've only offered Ant for OG, and no picks.

This is the issue. I feel some folks will always play the "it could've been better" or "we overpaid" card, regardless of what happened.
 
Take it for what it’s worth but one whisper I’ve heard is Zion as centerpiece of a Dame deal with NOP.

I don’t expect this trade to happen quickly…it’s going to be a game of cat and mouse for sure.

I hope not. That fat piece of shit has a lot of issues. He has been emitting flatulence of epic proportions, wreaking havoc on team chemistry. Teammates have reportedly had to wear gas masks during practices, leading to some truly comical scenes on the court. It seems Zion's true superpower isn't his dunks, but his ability to clear a room faster than a fire alarm!

He also has an obsession with collecting garden gnomes. Yes, those little ceramic creatures you find adorning people's lawns. Rumor has it that he has a vast collection of over 500 gnomes hidden away in his mansion, each with its own unique personality and backstory. Apparently, he even dresses them up for different occasions and hosts elaborate gnome tea parties.

While these scandals may not have the same shock value as some of the more salacious rumors, they certainly add a dash of absurdity to Zion Williamson's already fascinating persona. He's just a weird fatass. Don't want him around Scoot.
 
Maxey actually grew up on a Value farm, picking fresh Value out of the ground with his family. Put to work at the young age of 8, this broke his spirit. He spent his teenage years not wanting to see Value any longer. He was sick of it. So value left him. There was Value for breakfast, Value for dinner, Value in his sweat and blood, but coincidentally no Value in the most important place: his reflection in the mirror. As a young adult, he began a new chapter as a basketball player, roaming the country from one city to the next seeking to reclaim the Value he once knew.

This post is really off-topic and a waste of my time.
 
THAT would be a fascinating trade. It could result in us basically giving Dame away (while paying a massive salary for a dude who can't get on the floor) or result in the Blazers adding a future hall of famer.
What I meant by the deal not happening quickly is ANY Dame deal. This is likely a drawn out process.

I agree. I’d forgo a lot of draft capital for a chance on Zion with Scoot and Shaedon. Would still leave NOP with a lot of capital to go after someone else as well.
 
THAT would be a fascinating trade. It could result in us basically giving Dame away (while paying a massive salary for a dude who can't get on the floor) or result in the Blazers adding a future hall of famer.
Portland still must require future picks in my opinion. In that case, I'm open to the idea because like you said, there is a huge upside. And if it's a total miss, we can probably get off the contract once Sharpe/Scoot hit their prime and Zion missing a million games will mean we got a couple more lottery picks along the way.
 
Take it for what it’s worth but one whisper I’ve heard is Zion as centerpiece of a Dame deal with NOP.

I don’t expect this trade to happen quickly…it’s going to be a game of cat and mouse for sure.

THAT would be a fascinating trade. It could result in us basically giving Dame away (while paying a massive salary for a dude who can't get on the floor) or result in the Blazers adding a future hall of famer.

We would have to get something to hedge that bet like this:
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This is what i would love to see down the road after all said and done.

"In 1989, at the peak of Walker's NFL career, the Cowboys sent Herschel Walker to the Vikings for five players and six draft picks.

The players were LB Jesse Solomon, DB Isiac Holt, RB Darrin Nelson, LB David Howard, and DE Alex Stewart.

The picks turned into players such as Emmitt Smith, Russell Maryland, Kevin Smith, and Darren Woodson.
 
No one is stopping you from discussing other Blazers players, but you shouldn't ask us to stop discussing the biggest Blazers trade in almost 30 years.
No one asked you to stop discussing other players. You certainly are interesting....
 
No one is stopping you from discussing other Blazers players, but you shouldn't ask us to stop discussing the biggest Blazers trade in almost 30 years.

Exactly. It'd be really weird if someone was like "hey, you hear about Badji?"
 
Then do we get picks from both NO and Charlotte?

No, but you save money and get young quality wings for the future. This is a solid base to start from.

Much better than Simons Poole clone and a bunch of 28th picks from Miami.
 
It could last weeks.

Or not.

Thanks for the tip, "Blazers Insider" Aaron J for Jackoff Fentress.
This tweet is proof he knows nothing and has no source. Players don’t talk to him or Quick or Marang. I’ve stood talking to players as those guys walk by and try to say hi to them and they completely ignore them. They are stealing money from their employers.
 
So not a fan of people answering your serious questions with gibberish? We are similar in that regard.

my brain is pretty fucked up, so your post sent me to google in a frenzy of curiosity. First thing I asked, was origin of the word gibberish:

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the next stage was worrying about google's algorithm after this:

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WTF? Gibralter? where is gibberish spoken? really? hasn't google heard about S2?
 

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my brain is pretty fucked up, so your post sent me to google in a frenzy of curiosity. First thing I asked, was origin of the word gibberish:

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the next stage was worrying about google's algorithm after this:

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WTF? Gibralter? where is gibberish spoken? really? hasn't google heard about S2?
That would be the movie based on this place, Gibberish: Origins.
 
Lillard’s Miami-or-nothing position is muddying his exit out of Oregon, but under different circumstances. While Harden paced the NBA in assists last season and his pair of 40-point outbursts against Boston helped Philadelphia gain a 3-2 edge in the Eastern Conference semifinals, Lillard was posting All-NBA-caliber performances before his season was shut down. He’s also under contract for four more seasons at over $200 million, quite an expensive gamble for a team owner and front office if there’s no guarantee Lillard will be happy about joining them. If Harden were to get dealt anywhere outside of Los Angeles and raised a stink about not reporting to training camp, it’s far easier to stomach one season of dead money. Then again, Lillard’s sterling reputation of commitment and professionalism also has team executives pondering whether he would truly balk at an unexpected team acquiring the 32-year-old, like when Cleveland landed Donovan Mitchell last offseason.

If Lillard was more open to other destinations than Miami, there’s no question among league personnel Lillard would have a wider market, and Portland would have a much easier process to complete. The Heat’s prominence in this situation makes it unlikely the Blazers will be able to net returns similar to what Brooklyn just got for Kevin Durant and the incredible sum Utah received for Rudy Gobert. Miami doesn’t have the consensus blue-chip prospects and surplus of draft capital to send the Blazers. Tyler Herro is an intriguing talent at just 23 years old, but his deficiencies on defense are as glaring as his offensive spark, and his four-year, $120 million contract that begins this season; Golden State just had to pay a first-round pick to move Jordan Poole’s nearly identical deal. Brooklyn, which Lillard named as a favorable next team in a recent interview, has the draft assets from February’s Durant deal with Phoenix to blow away Miami’s best possible offer by a wide margin.

For any trade with Miami, Portland would have the goal of moving Herro to a third team, league sources told Yahoo Sports. It seems the challenge for the Blazers with Herro is as much about Portland’s surplus of young combo guards, featuring lottery picks Scoot Henderson and Shaedon Sharpe, plus the high-scoring Anfernee Simons, as it is about Herro’s long-term money. If the Blazers are saying goodbye to the Lillard era in Portland, restarting with another crowded backcourt of small guards with questionable defensive chops isn’t the most optimal launching pad. But finding an additional partner for a Lillard-to-Miami trade hasn’t stopped the Heat from operating as if they’re in pole position to land the superstar guard. It was evident during exit interviews with Heat players, sources said, that Miami was preparing its books for a roster-altering transaction. The Heat have told free-agent players like Malik Beasley, who agreed to a one-year contract with Milwaukee on Monday, that Miami is in a holding pattern before moving forward with its veteran-minimum signings, sources said. Other players like Josh Christopher, recently traded from Houston to Memphis, and Dario Šarić, who had a strong suitor in Golden State, could also be involved with Miami depending on these Lillard proceedings, sources said.

The timing of Lillard’s trade request, one day after the start of free agency and one day after Portland awarded Jerami Grant a five-year, $160 million contract to play alongside Lillard, certainly raised eyebrows across the league. Despite some early speculation around the league, that deal has been agreed upon, and the Blazers plan to honor that commitment to Grant, sources said. Don’t expect Portland to mold that deal into a sign-and-trade either. A large reason why Grant waited for a new deal with the Blazers this summer, as opposed to signing an extension during the season, was Grant’s ability to sign for an additional fifth year, sources said. Grant would not be eligible to sign for a fifth season in a sign-and-trade concept.

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The way I read this, is the longer we drag this out, the more likely Lillard's camp will cave to other destinations, and the better chance we have to secure a better package. Joe needs to pull a Morey here.
 
by the way, I think this needs to be said: I didn't think Dame would ask out; I wasn't sure and I certainly allowed for the possibility, but I thought there was a better than even chance he wouldn't

I was wrong about that

what has impressed me, a little, is that the people who were right, or at least most with a couple of exceptions, haven't been in this forum running 'I-told-you-so' victory laps. A few laps but nobody has really gone anywhere close to going overboard in neener-neener. Good display of maturity guys
 
Sounds like the Heat, by trying to get Dame without giving up anything of value, have kind of painted themselves into a corner. They've lost Strus and Vincent and don't really want Herro, but they can't do anything to fill out their roster until the Lillard trade is done.

It'd be such a shame if the free agent market completely played out and no Dame trade was finalized. It'd be an even bigger shame if after all that happened the Blazers traded Dame somewhere else.
 
by the way, I think this needs to be said: I didn't think Dame would ask out; I wasn't sure and I certainly allowed for the possibility, but I thought there was a better than even chance he wouldn't

I was wrong about that

what has impressed me, a little, is that the people who were right, or at least most with a couple of exceptions, haven't been in this forum running 'I-told-you-so' victory laps. A few laps but nobody has really gone anywhere close to going overboard in neener-neener. Good display of maturity guys

Are you sure? I can't start if you want. :hello:
 
by the way, I think this needs to be said: I didn't think Dame would ask out; I wasn't sure and I certainly allowed for the possibility, but I thought there was a better than even chance he wouldn't

I was wrong about that

what has impressed me, a little, is that the people who were right, or at least most with a couple of exceptions, haven't been in this forum running 'I-told-you-so' victory laps. A few laps but nobody has really gone anywhere close to going overboard in neener-neener. Good display of maturity guys
haha think we all feel sad about it.

that said, i told you all that dame asked out last week in his meeting with cronin w/ goodwin present.
 
Sounds like the Heat, by trying to get Dame without giving up anything of value, have kind of painted themselves into a corner. They've lost Strus and Vincent and don't really want Herro, but they can't do anything to fill out their roster until the Lillard trade is done.

It'd be such a shame if the free agent market completely played out and no Dame trade was finalized. It'd be an even bigger shame if after all that happened the Blazers traded Dame somewhere else.

They have lost a LOT of outside shooting. They almost have to get Dame at this point or they are going to be a little thin.
 
https://sports.yahoo.com/the-ins-an...es-harden-are-moving-so-slowly-003139952.html

The way I read this, is the longer we drag this out, the more likely Lillard's camp will cave to other destinations, and the better chance we have to secure a better package. Joe needs to pull a Morey here.
also, this notion of Dame making his request public on day 2 of FA so that the team he wants to go to doesn't exhaust its flexibility or roster spots.... just leaves such a bad taste. isn't this the guy who didn't want to make trade demands so that his friends wouldn't have to uproot their families? what happened to him?
 

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