Dame asks for trade (And there it is)

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BigGameDamian said:
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Obviously, I don't want James Harden on this team. No matter the talent, he should not be around our rookies.

That being said, I love the idea of including Philly in any trade for Dame. It causes Miami, Brooklyn and Boston to s*** themselves as replacing Harden half-assing it all over the court with Dame means they are the favorites to win the East. The result is a set of MUCH better offers for us.

The other thing it does is it allows something like: Dame to Philly, Harden to whoever would take him (I think his value is lower than Dame's), and a whole bunch of stuff from Philly and that third team coming to us. Perhaps even a fourth team gets involved to take other pieces (Nurk, scraps from Philly or that third team). We get back picks. Lots of picks. And promising young players.

The indirect benefit? Philly fans are the f***ing worst. Nothing would be better than to dump Lillard there. I don't care if he wins a Championship. They booed Mike Schmidt at the end of his career. They threw snowballs at Santa Claus. They have zero loyalty. It's the opposite of Portland, where we love players who don't love us back.
 
wizenheimer said:
is anybody surprised by that? He was so deeply buried in Olshey's jockstrap he thought a wedgie was just a warm blanket
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UKRAINEFAN said:
He needs to come out and say this himself or i won't believe it.
Damian Lillard 'remains unwavering' he only wants to play for the Heat
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The Portland Trail Blazers’ desire to explore alternate destinations (beyond Miami) in trade talks involving Damian Lillard hasn’t softened Lillard’s position. The seven-time All Star guard remains unwavering that he wants to play only for the Heat, a source with direct knowledge reiterated to the Miami Herald on Sunday night.

– via Miami Herald
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Well, he'll be faced with a choice. He can report and play for another team, or he can sit. If he's trying to kill the market for Portland, then we need to be vociferous about it. Dame makes good money playing basketball, but his future is in his reputation and marketing money. We can set that aflame. My guess is he plays nice wherever we move him.
 
noknobs said:
Comments like that are so completely clueless it's embarrassing. Yeah the Blazers didn't try to improve all those years. They largely failed, but to suggest everyone wasn't working hard to improve is idiotic.

And it's ridiculous to suggest a team doesn't owe it first to their fans, city and owner to get the best possible package back. Like the only person who matters is the person requesting to leave after they signed a fucking contract. Somehow that equates to "we're trying to screw Dame!" No, that's completely, totally, 100% backwards. Dame is doing the screwing and anyone in the league with common sense knows that.
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Brookfield Douche can piss up a rope.
 
Strenuus said:
Dame just needs to come out pubically, even cryptically (like his MO), either denying the forced move to Miami, or not. It's doing nothing but sowing more doubt and frustration.
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That's the strategy. He's not going to say anything. When it gets contentious, he'll blame it all on his agent.

Plausible deniability, where he gets to be the good guy.
 
Labinot41 said:
It's getting ugly (if true)

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Please. The "player opinion" facet is the most overrated bulls*** going. First, no one is coming to Portland as a free agent unless we overpay them. Second, player worth is the size of your contract. If we offer the most, they'll follow the money. They won't care about how we "treated" Dame.
 
Strenuus said:
Dame just needs to come out pubically, even cryptically (like his MO), either denying the forced move to Miami, or not. It's doing nothing but sowing more doubt and frustration.
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Just do a Nets deal like they did with KD, and ask Dame to at least start the season and we will work out a trade if he provides 3 preferred destinations. I don think Dame at all is being unreasonable asking for a trade as he and his agent have been convicted for a while now that the Zer's could go young.
I dont think Cronin would be willing to take the Nets path as it would put even more pressure on him and he would show that he's incapable to pull of a trade before deadline.
The easy route for Joe is a quick move now for a clean slate that he can play with.
 
blazerkor said:
I'm telling you this is a masterclass being conducted by Riley. He is letting all of these supposed offers of "take our shit" get out there. Then he's going to come in with a trade that gets us good value for Herro from a third team and it will be so much better than all of the shit that has been floated to the media that Cronin will take it and like it. It really might not even be that bad of a deal but it definitely won't be great.
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Anchoring is hardly a master Zen move in negotiating.
 
tykendo said:
C'mon man. He does things that he believes in. Sheed should have promoted the coat drive. Maybe it might get more support.
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Sheed never wanted that spotlight. He actually wanted to do good deeds for their own sake. I think Lillard is the same. The difference is the relationship with the media. Sheed hated them, Dame doesn't.
 
blazerkor said:
In terms of trying to win, do you like the way the team has been managed over the last eight seasons? Do you think that Olshey and Cronin did everything they could during that time to try and win it all? I'm asking you as a fan outside the context of this Dame conversation.
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I think Olshey tried his very best...and that's why he should have never had the job in the first place.
 
How is it that one of the 75 greatest players that loves the city and fans can ask for a trade while under contract? What has happened to cause him to take this route? Is it thats Joe failed to convince Dame through inaction and reading Dame incorrectly (oh, I think Dames just passionate and wants to win. He's not going to ask out. No.) or is that Dame has finally caved in to the lure of Chasing a ring or bad influences? Was this at all salvageable?
Be honest, Who misled who?
Personally I dont think Dame did at all. Joe simply wants his own clean slate to build at his PACE. He knew that it would cause Dame to ask out and that was his plan. He failed in that he was not at all truthful in what path he wanted to take.
 
Hoopguru said:
Just do a Nets deal like they did with KD, and ask Dame to at least start the season and we will work out a trade if he provides 3 preferred destinations. I don think Dame at all is being unreasonable asking for a trade as he and his agent have been convicted for a while now that the Zer's could go young.
I dont think Cronin would be willing to take the Nets path as it would put even more pressure on him and he would show that he's incapable to pull of a trade before deadline.
The easy route for Joe is a quick move now for a clean slate that he can play with.
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It depends on what's being offered to Cronin. He's not going to make a horrible deal now when he could wait.
 
I don't know where to ask this since there are so many frickin threads, but have Clowney and Whitehead signed their rookie deals with the Nets yet?
 
blazerfan11 said:
It depends on what's being offered to Cronin. He's not going to make a horrible deal now when he could wait.
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Thats my Point, Joe should convinced Dame to play and then Joe can work a deal before trade deadline.
 
wizenheimer said:
I don't know where to ask this since there are so many frickin threads, but have Clowney and Whitehead signed their rookie deals with the Nets yet?
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I do not believe so. They are still shown as unsigned on FanSpo.
 
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