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I'm sure this was covered extensively on page 96, but can someone tell me why Dame will have a screeching meltdown if he isn't traded to Miami specifically? I don't understand that part of the equation. Honestly, it seems petty to me but I have zero context for this.
 
bulls_with_booz said:
I'm sure this was covered extensively on page 96, but can someone tell me why Dame will have a screeching meltdown if he isn't traded to Miami specifically? I don't understand that part of the equation. Honestly, it seems petty to me but I have zero context for this.
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It's a threat coming from his mouthpieces. Aaron Fentress insinuated that he'd sit out.
 
Natebishop3 said:
Yeah but I think once he made the decision to not seek a trade two years ago, he was stuck with us until...... now.
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You're right but I really think he thought the team would do what he wanted them to and when they didn't it was over. People can think that makes Dame whatever they want to think. I think he felt like if he continued to listen to the Blazers GM (Cronin after Neil) tell him one thing and do another that he would feel like a punk. Dude said that now it's about winning for him, we didn't make win now moves and he asked out.

Even though a small part of me thinks Joe might have wanted this because it really lowers expectations, most of me thinks that both Joe and Dame are in a bit of a nightmare right now and both of them are just trying to ride it out and salvage as much good for themselves from a bad situation, as they can.
 
blazerkor said:
You're right but I really think he thought the team would do what he wanted them to and when they didn't it was over. People can think that makes Dame whatever they want to think. I think he felt like if he continued to listen to the Blazers GM (Cronin after Neil) tell him one thing and do another that he would feel like a punk. Dude said that now it's about winning for him, we didn't make win now moves and he asked out.

Even though a small part of me thinks Joe might have wanted this because it really lowers expectations, most of me thinks that both Joe and Dame are in a bit of a nightmare right now and both of them are just trying to ride it out and salvage as much good for themselves from a bad situation, as they can.
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I'm on the fence dude.

Did Joe maneuver Dame into a corner so that Dame would ask out and he'd get to do his rebuild?

Did Dame maneuver Joe into a corner so that Dame could ask out and go somewhere to ring chase?

Were both just being genuine and they both wanted to make it work but they couldn't? I honestly don't know.
 
Natebishop3 said:
It's a threat coming from his mouthpieces. Aaron Fentress insinuated that he'd sit out.
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There really is no threat though. There is no ultimatum because his camp hasn't said what happens if it's not Miami. They just keep on having people in the media say that it's got to be Miami. They might not even be the ones making it so repetitive they may have just put the word out there and the Heat might be the ones encouraging media to keep beating the drum or the media is just a huge echo chamber and we know that's true.

I think if Joe trades Dame to a team that has pieces around him to win, that Dame will just report and play his ass off for that team. He's just doing what he can to try and push his way to where he wants to be.
 
Natebishop3 said:
I'm on the fence dude.

Did Joe maneuver Dame into a corner so that Dame would ask out and he'd get to do his rebuild?

Did Dame maneuver Joe into a corner so that Dame could ask out and go somewhere to ring chase?

Were both just being genuine and they both wanted to make it work but they couldn't? I honestly don't know.
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To be honest I think they were both just being genuine. I don't know if that's Dame's working theory though.
 
Natebishop3 said:
Howard Beck from the top rope!

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If you listen to that podcast, however, both their valuation of Tyler Herro and what they think we would accept in terms of players (Dinwiddie as the centerpiece from the Nets or Barrett from the Knicks) was laughable.

The more I'm thinking about Miami, the less I can see a reasonable deal come together with the Heat. They simply don't have the assets, no matter who they convert into whom, to make a reasonable offer for Lillard. And, like the Heat beat writer said, Joe Cronin's obligation has to be to the Blazers, not Lillard.
 
maxiep said:
If you listen to that podcast, however, both their valuation of Tyler Herro and what they think we would accept in terms of players (Dinwiddie as the centerpiece from the Nets or Barrett from the Knicks) was laughable.

The more I'm thinking about Miami, the less I can see a reasonable deal come together with the Heat. They simply don't have the assets, no matter who they convert into whom, to make a reasonable offer for Lillard. And, like the Heat beat writer said, Joe Cronin's obligation has to be to the Blazers, not Lillard.
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Howard Beck isn’t a beat writer. I can’t remember what his podcast is.
 
blazerkor said:
I think it's "interesting" that we're not trying to get Dame to reconsider. Maybe that's because Joe was trying to push Dame to ask out the whole time. I just don't think Joe thought through the possibility that Dame would only put one team on his list and that's making it harder for Joe to do what he intended to do.
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Because you can't. Haven't you ever been in a relationship before? You break up, then get back together. It NEVER works the second time.

Divorce is inevitable. We just have to get the best terms and don't worry about Dame. He can cry himself to sleep, using $100 bills to wipe his eyes and blow his nose from the contract we gave him.
 
PCmor7 said:
This. Dame flexing and making his whole persona and message for the last 11 years look like a fabrication.

Just consider that for a second: You've got the super-max. You're leaving an organization that even put your cousin on the roster for two years. You talked about wanting to win in Portland, not wanting to be on a super-team and not running from the grind and being no-nonsense -- but suddenly you want your former team gutted so your NBA finalist new team has a slightly better chance to win and you only will play for one team.

That sounds like the biggest diva move in the NBA in a long time, and that's saying a lot. It's also unprofessional. IMO, if Dame was traded to another contender, he wouldn't sit and pout, but this is a really bad look for his people to even suggest it. They must really think NBA fans all over the country will support him and the Blazers will cave as a result. Thing is, when you tell Celtics fans, Bucks fans, Sixer fans, etc. fans that their team isn't good enough for you, they have a lot less reason to be in your corner and to blindly believe the BS you're throwing out there.
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I never thought someone could look worse than LeBron ripping out Northeastern Ohio's heart with "I'm taking my talents to South Beach", but at least he was a free agent. Lillard's camp has NEVER dealt with anything but fawning PR. I'm not sure they understand how badly they f***ed this up. Dame actually looks worse than LeBron.
 
OSUBlazerfan said:
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Broussard makes a ton of sense. Another meeting should take place. Tell Dame he's getting slaughtered in the media and that he needs to expand his list. Go through the trade options. Don't give him his choice, but get a preference list from him. Don't continue to let your lapdogs run down your reputation. Make a statement that you will do what's best for Portland and they will try to do what's best for you. People here will forgive that. This "send me to Miami no matter what" stuff will not play.
 
maxiep said:
Broussard makes a ton of sense. Another meeting should take place. Tell Dame he's getting slaughtered in the media and that he needs to expand his list. Go through the trade options. Don't give him his choice, but get a preference list from him. Don't continue to let your lapdogs run down your reputation. Make a statement that you will do what's best for Portland and they will try to do what's best for you. People here will forgive that. This "send me to Miami no matter what" stuff will not play.
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I don’t think Dame is talking to Joe anymore. I think it would be Aaron Goodwin.
 
Cronin to Dame (and his agent):

"Dame, I know you want to go to Miami but we are going to have to wait on that until they offer enough assets in exchange for a player if your magnitude. We are willing to wait as long as is necessary.
We aren't sending you to Miami or any other team of your choice for pennies on the dollar."
 
OSUBlazerfan said:
There's been a rumor that a divorce is brewing between Dame and his wife, and its been going like that for a few months. Add to the other close friends who have died around him, I can totally see his strong desire to be in Miami. I don't think he did this knowingly a year ago @Natebishop3
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kayla has been off IG and noticeably absent in his social media posts the past few months. does not surprise me
 
You play 10+ years and what do ya get
Another day older, ain't got no vets
L.A. don't ya call me, cuz I can't go
I promised my soul to the Heat, ya know.....

Tennessee Ernie Ford
 
I'm surprised we haven't heard more of the Cavs trying to get involved in the trade. Seems to me it'd be the ideal time for them to get Nas and unload Osman.

If I'm the Blazers, I'd want the Cavs involved because, if there's truth they're looking to move Jarrett Allen, it's a great opportunity for the Blazers to bring him in.
 
RonBrewer said:
My off the wall theory is Goodwin said to Dame "Let me put this shit out here, just sit back, I'm working with Pat Riley here and we have a plan"
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Not off the wall at all. Quite likely, I think.
 
BBert said:
All these talking heads talking about the Blazers "doing right by Dame" don't seem to realize that the Blazers appear to be trying very hard to "do right by Dame." The evidence of this to me is that Dame hasn't been traded yet. The Blazers appear to be bending into a pretzel to send Dame to the Heat. Why? Because they are trying to "do right by Dame," while at the same time doing the best they can for Blazers fans.
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Yeah, the fact that Shelburne posted that BOS had enough assets to do it kinda makes it seem like they're trying to give Riley time to beat the offer...not that they're completely unreasonable.
(For the record, I'd like them to be Ainge-level unreasonable and get back a haul. But that's tough to do)
 
Pinwheel1 said:
This makes more sense. When people said his family was pushing for Miami, I was thinking to myself......why in the hell would any wife encourage her rich famous husband to move to Miami of all places? Way too many gorgeous women.
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I hear they're 'half-dressed, fully equipped.'
 
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