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Natebishop3 said:
Does the NBA step in if the Blazers didn’t ask them to? I’m just wondering if we complained or if the NBA did this on their own. Either way, it seems like we are trying to force Dame to expand his list.
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I don't think the Blazers have enough cache for any request to sway the league office. The NBA saw this playing out in the national and social media. It was giving the NBA a black eye, ruining the rep of one of the people they market as a "good guy" and was going to make it a lot harder for but a handful of teams to compete if the Blazers caved and traded Dame to the Heat for a bag of stale chips because it'd set a precedent for every subsequent player no matter their contract situation.
 
PCmor7 said:
I don't think the Blazers have enough cache for any request to sway the league office. The NBA saw this playing out in the national and social media. It was giving the NBA a black eye, ruining the rep of one of the people they market as a "good guy" and was going to make it a lot harder for but a handful of teams to compete if the Blazers caved and traded Dame to the Heat for a bag of stale chips because it'd set a precedent for every subsequent player no matter their contract situation.
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this is exactly my thought as well.

ain't nobody in the league offices give one damn about Portland or Cronin.

they just don't want to set the precedent of all small market teams becoming farm teams for larger markets.
 
illmatic99 said:
anyways...

can we get masai on the phone?

I want Scottie.
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I don't think that's the startegy.

By initiating, you are showing you need to trade Dame, much like going to a car dealership and letting it be known you need a vehicle.

We sit back, wait until the deadline, when more teams who currently think they're healthy realize they're sick, and need the Dame cure, let them fight over Dame. Highest bidder gets Dame.
 
Tince said:
In general I agree... I'd modify the statement and say "I don't believe Goodwin would do anything without Dame's approval."

It's possible Goodwin gave Dame bad advice to do this "only Miami" thing and Dame trusted him that it would work because Goodwin is supposed to be the expert in how these things work.
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This is what I think happened. Goodwin wanted Dame in a bigger market. Because that would mean a bigger paycheck for Goodwin.

I think he finally talked Dame into it and Dame said he's not interested in going to a bad situation like he's seen happen to other guys.

Goodwin likely said he'll handle it, but he might have to get tough to make sure he lands in the right spot.

So they agree that Dame will just leave the country while it all plays out.

I highly doubt that Dame was telling Goodwin what to do here, play by play.
 
In case you missed it...
NBA Sends Memo To All 30 Teams On Damian Lillard's Trade Request
JUL 28, 2023 6:05 PM

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The NBA sent a memo to all 30 teams regarding comments surrounding the trade request by Damian Lillard and his agent Aaron Goodwin.

“Recent media reports stated that Damian Lillard’s agent, Aaron Goodwin, called multiple NBA teams to warn them against trading for Lillard because Lillard’s only desired trade destination is Miami. Goodwin also made public comments indicating that Lillard would not fully perform the services called for under his player contract if traded to another team.

"We interviewed Goodwin and Lillard and also spoke with several NBA teams to whom Goodwin spoke. Goodwin denied stating or indicating to any team that Lillard would refuse to play for them. Goodwin and Lillard affirmed to us that Lillard would fully perform the services called for under his player contract in any trade scenario. The relevant teams provided descriptions of their communications with Goodwin that were mostly, though not entirely, consistent with Goodwin’s statements to us.

"We have advised Goodwin and Lillard that any future comments, made privately to teams or publicly, suggesting Lillard will not fully perform the services called for under his player contract in the event of a trade will subject Lillard to discipline by the NBA. We also have advised the Players Association that any similar comments by players or their agents will be subject to discipline going forward.”
 
So was the "I will only play for Miami" stuff BS all along? Or was it teams not wanting to tattle on Goodwin?

Now that this Miami-only stuff is out the window, will a trade be coming soon?
 
Throw Goodwin in with Bouna Ndiaye and Lon Babby (although thank goodness Turkey Glue didn't come here).
 
beast crnjo said:
So was the "I will only play for Miami" stuff BS all along? Or was it teams not wanting to tattle on Goodwin?

Now that this Miami-only stuff is out the window, will a trade be coming soon?
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I’m not sure this changes anything as far as a market for Dame, though I think Miami will put its first bonafide offer on the table. We’ll see if Portland bites.
 
Samuel said:
I’m not sure this changes anything as far as a market for Dame, though I think Miami will put its first bonafide offer on the table. We’ll see if Portland bites.
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It doesn't have to do anything immediately. The Blazers don't have to be in any hurry. As the season progresses and teams see Dame as a potential missing piece while the Heat potentially struggle with a two-player roster, there'll be quite a bit of incentive for organizations to find a way to make a deal. Heat fans are playing ignorant to this, but it's the fact. The Blazers either aren't a contender without Dame or they aren't a contender by having accepted what the Heat have offered playing this preposterous "Dame will make it ugly" card (not even understanding that Dame has businesses in Portland and wants to live in Portland and there might be longterm blowback from playing the nuke card). The expiring contracts and draft picks aren't going to help the Blazers anytime soon ... they could trade Dame at the deadline for the same thing. The Blazers could keep Dame and make him inactive while the young guys play. If Dame wants to play, hey, that's fine, too.

The only real way to misplay this is for the Blazers to rush into making a trade like the Heat are offering now. The NBA's memo has staggered Team Dame and the Heat in their efforts to get the Blazers to do this. The Blazers should wait this out and let someone else get desperate.
 
PCmor7 said:
It doesn't have to do anything immediately. The Blazers don't have to be in any hurry. As the season progresses and teams see Dame as a potential missing piece while the Heat potentially struggle with a two-player roster, there'll be quite a bit of incentive for organizations to find a way to make a deal. Heat fans are playing ignorant to this, but it's the fact. The Blazers either aren't a contender without Dame or they aren't a contender by having accepted what the Heat have offered playing this preposterous "Dame will make it ugly" card (not even understanding that Dame has businesses in Portland and wants to live in Portland and there might be longterm blowback from playing the nuke card). The expiring contracts and draft picks aren't going to help the Blazers anytime soon ... they could trade Dame at the deadline for the same thing. The Blazers could keep Dame and make him inactive while the young guys play. If Dame wants to play, hey, that's fine, too.

The only real way to misplay this is for the Blazers to rush into making a trade like the Heat are offering now. The NBA's memo has staggered Team Dame and the Heat in their efforts to get the Blazers to do this. The Blazers should wait this out and let someone else get desperate.
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Amen
 
PCmor7 said:
The only real way to misplay this is for the Blazers to rush into making a trade like the Heat are offering now. The NBA's memo has staggered Team Dame and the Heat in their efforts to get the Blazers to do this. The Blazers should wait this out and let someone else get desperate.
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I wouldn't necessarily call it a misplay by the Blazers, but Dame getting injured would be catastrophic. Anyone trading for Dame is looking to contend immediately and for the next couple years. If he gets injured during camp or early in the season, it will set the rebuild back a couple years.
I'm hoping a sweetheart deal comes along sooner than later.
 
beast crnjo said:
So was the "I will only play for Miami" stuff BS all along? Or was it teams not wanting to tattle on Goodwin?

Now that this Miami-only stuff is out the window, will a trade be coming soon?
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I think it’s the opposite, but that’s just a guess
 
AmirIcon said:
This is great news. Dame needs to expand his list if we're going to send him out.
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Not great news. Chances of Dame staying, not playing defense, being unhappy, us continue not contending, most likely trading Scoot and or Shaedon for “help”
 
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